Newbie Mini Mafia XXVI

On September 04 2012 05:00 thrawn2112 wrote:


First, as it's been stated several times, no-lynch isn't an option. You say reads are pointless on D1. But how will reads become less pointless during D2 if hypothetically we could choose to no-lynch? Lynching makes people commit to reads.

You just posted so apparently you want to remain in the game. If so you need to vote to avoid being modkilled so who is your vote?

On September 04 2012 05:03 thrawn2112 wrote:
From the OP:

4. You may vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game.

Kville do you want to be lynched/replaced/modkilled?

On September 04 2012 05:19 thrawn2112 wrote:


Actually I'm in agreement with this, especially the bolded part.

Kville answer this question. You have played extremely poorly, broken a rule, and there is the evidence in the replacement thread that suggest you wanted to be removed from the game. Do you want to play or not? If you do, then why are you purposely playing so extremely anti-town? I say your bad play is intentional because here are your actions:

-Lurk on 1 post until near voting deadline
-Broke a rule by self-voting
-Make an statement about non-lynching so illogical I don't think anyone would have it as an honest opinion

So why play intentionally bad if you are town?

On September 05 2012 11:24 Xatalos wrote:
I'm in extreme hurry right now, but some comments on the recent events...

Farewell thrawn2112, you will be missed :/ Can't say I'm too surprised about the night kill, though.

kushm4sta, you're severely underestimating my contributions. At the moment I have a pretty good case against Sonic Death Monkey and WeeTee (imcasey), and although the case against Sonic Death Monkey is a bit outdated, the case against WeeTee (imcasey) is quite good IMO. At least I think it's much stronger than the policy lynching of kville or the suspicions toward Stutters695. I agree that I could have been more active so far, but when I look at my own filter, I've scumhunted and/or pushed the discussion forward in every post. Much more than can be said about most players so far.

Now I have to leave, but I'll be able to post again later today. My vote is going for imcasey, as I previously reasoned. I'll be looking at each player's filters later today, though.

##Vote imcasey

(Btw, my vote for Cubu was in real hurry as well, so I indeed should have reasoned it better, but I just had no time. I'll get back to it later!)

I don't think kville is Mafia,

If there is a Vigilante, kville would make for a good shot.

On September 07 2012 03:36 kushm4sta wrote:
Kville just voted for xatalos FYI. Not really sure how to read that. He's not here to say anything or defend himself, but he's here to vote for the other person who is suspected.

On September 07 2012 04:07 KillingTime wrote:
If it is between Kville and Xatalos - I would rather lynch Kville at the moment. Xatalos has atleast got a semi-plausible excuse for why he is inactive and has said he could be more active at the weekend - his play to me seems somewhat consistent with someone who hasn't got enough time to play 100%.

Kville has twice come into the thread at the last minute offering a weak defence and trying to deflect a lynch, as kreb wrote it has been clear for 48h that he might be lynched today and he has done nothing to defend himself - yet he pops up again just like on d1 with an attempt to deflect the lynch away from himself. Of the two I think he is a better bet.

On September 07 2012 04:09 kushm4sta wrote:
I will switch vote to kville if that's the consensus...im just really scared of him flipping green, and I think he probably will.

On September 07 2012 04:35 KillingTime wrote:
Voting for yourself with the reason:
Is pretty much my definition of a weak defence - you were obviously not going to propose another target as you had said that you were not in favour of a D1 lynch - but you knew everyone else disagreed with this and that if you were not lynched then someone else would be.

On September 07 2012 04:48 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
Kville, if you're townie, do you really think your way of posting is pro-town? If so, why?

I try to make sense of you, but I have no idea what you're doing.

On September 07 2012 05:30 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
Ok, I'm putting my vote on Kville. Xatalos got the thread started by throwing out those questions d1. It helped getting the discussion past the "do we lynch lurkers" and "what about dem lists" part, which is generally pro-town. I have no idea what his motivation was though, since he disappeared quickly and didn't return until EOD (his military service can be a legitimate excuse or a convenient circumstance). At this point it's a vote against Kville more than it's a vote for Xatalos. I'd rather have a player left who seems to interested in playing the game and contribute than someone who doesn't.

On September 07 2012 05:36 kushm4sta wrote:
@kville
if you are town this is why you dont play like how you are playing... town has to waste a lynch on you now

On September 07 2012 05:56 Stutters695 wrote:


I'm still willing to give you a chance if you actually start helping. You've done nothing except say "hey I'm not scum so you guys are wasting a day. Lynch him instead."

For starters: How do you know he is town? I don't think anyone in this thread has had a townread on him in D2. Do you know something we don't?

On September 07 2012 06:33 kushm4sta wrote:
@kville You play this game really badly!!! Whether you are town or mafia you play really bad... try to not have that attitude next game maybe?

On September 07 2012 06:43 Stutters695 wrote:


Again why do you think Kush is town? Additionally your case of Xatalos is a start but having one good post over two days isn't cutting it. At least when Xatalos posts he gives us something to read instead of your nearly identical play to Normal Mini III where you played terrible town yet you've made no effort to improve or help this game. You may flip town but I'll wager that if you flip town we'll be in a much better position than if we flip a town Xatalos today because he should actually contribute enough for us to get reads off of whereas if you live we go into mylo with a townie who posts one liners and shows up when he feels like without actually helping.

Don't tell us why you should live, show us

On September 07 2012 07:05 drazak wrote:
I'm voting for you, Kville, like I voted for you on D1. We still can't read you, but you're useless, and if you're not helping town you're either mafia or really bad town. The rest of the town have made efforts to help town, which means you are the odd man out.

On September 07 2012 07:14 Stutters695 wrote:
This is actually the best thing I think you've posted. I wish you would have elaborated on it yourself but hey, its an improvement.

Drazak explain. You aren't here and throw your vote on Kville without even the slightest form of reasoning. You don't even announce it in this thread.

Additionally you said you pressured Kush and he scumslipped yet we're not doing anything. Let's recap what you've done. First you drop a post early in day 2 onto Kush and claim you vote him.



Here's the kicker. He never voted for Kushm4sta in the voting thread.

Why are you hiding votes? Why aren't you explaining your dropped read on Kush and why are you sheeping onto Kville with zero explanation?

On September 07 2012 07:28 drazak wrote:
Er, no, sorry, there were some votes in THIS thread, and I voted for him in THIS thread thinking it would be counted (like other votes were(. I'm not hiding votes, it's right there in the open, I haven't dropped jack shit but there isn't time for you all to respond to my accusations on Kush, it'll have to wait for night/D3.

On September 07 2012 07:32 kushm4sta wrote:


So you wait until right before you're gonna die to start talking huh?
I actually dont think not voting in the voting thread can be counted against him. I've done it too. I think the ##vote was just another way of saying ##fos.

On September 07 2012 07:34 drazak wrote:
No, I figured there was no need to unvote based on the fact that THE MOD DIDN'T COUNT MY VOTE. There's enough people to lynch you anyway, kville.

So Kush, why'd you scumslip? Why did you feel so threatened by me?

All 4 of those posts had to do with me, either your defense or accusations against me, and I didn't post /at all/ during those 4 posts. Come on now, you'll have to do better than that as a defense.

On September 07 2012 08:14 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Although it could be a bus if xatalos is mafia as well and they want him alive over kville.

On September 07 2012 08:33 JacobStrangelove wrote:
If you do flip green and xatalos does come back however that puts a really bad light on drazak kreb and killing (as he will be the inactive/active not saying much person) Also if we go with the fact that kreb and killing defended each other and both jumped on stutters. Also he admits to giving to much town creed to drazak who would be the third in this party. Not much hope for any lynch changes but I may as well start researching now. Also this makes me second guess the xatalos lynch vote.

On September 07 2012 08:48 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I am hypothetical again don’t mind me... However if kville does flip red then kreb is free in a way. However just from looking at his posts and everyone has the opinion he is town (it seems) so, that said most people have the same opinion about kreb and he has been acting townish with ok analysis all game.

Also the change to kush is really really odd. Looks like not wanting to be connected to the lynch, nobody has votes on kush that is a day 3 case if anything.

On September 07 2012 09:32 Stutters695 wrote:
A little late in the day but if Kville can keep up his more recent posting I'd be willing to switch to Xatalos over him.