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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
PRE-EDIT: I should be a little bit more specific. I don't know whether checks on me will return scum or town - all I'm told is that some checks on me will return scum instead of town. I speculate that there are different types of DT check in this game and I am only a miller to some of them - maybe L has special DT powers, and one of their advantages is that they are immune to some or all millers? I also don't know whether it's likely to have more than one or two millers in such a small setup, but having a lot of DT power roles could mean we have more millers than normal. If there are other self-aware millers, they should claim asap as well, or else never claim at all. Yea I don't believe you. | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
Strongandbig(2) - HiroPro, marvellosity HiroPro(1) - Shady Sands Risen(1) - Node Not Voting: Strongandbig, risen, mrzentor, mementoss, solarsail, mkfuba07, ghost_403, hopeless1der Currently, Strongandbig is set to be lynched. Deadline is set at 02:30 GMT (+00:00). About 11 hours and 30 minutrs left to vote. A reminder that voting is not mandatory, and you can't vote for yourself. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
This means that 'suspicious detective' isn't just a name for a "miller" role. It's a result of checks people can get. This part is true though. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
so mafia show up as suspicious detective maybe? | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On September 02 2012 00:11 marvellosity wrote: so mafia show up as suspicious detective maybe? They can (There's almost certainly godfathers in this setup). But Palmar was definitely a miller. | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
Im a bit lost, about this suspicious detective thing. Why don't you believe him can you give some clarification? | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
On September 01 2012 23:58 strongandbig wrote: Actually I can give a little bit more now. my role PM says that rolechecks on me before half the players in the game are dead will return detective and after that point they will return suspicious detective. This means that 'suspicious detective' isn't just a name for a "miller" role. It's a result of checks people can get. If all suspicious detectives were millers then that wouldn't make any sense - the whole point of millers is that they check the same as scum. I think this is bullshit. Per his death post, Palmar got a vanilla townie role PM. ##vote strongandbig The role posted with Palmar's death was the role PM he received, correct? | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
##unvote Risen ##vote strongandbig Sorry! | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On September 02 2012 00:14 Mementoss wrote: Im a bit lost, about this suspicious detective thing. Why don't you believe him can you give some clarification? Because for one, it's really unlikely to have certain millers be unaware, certain self-aware. Second, look at what s&b wrote. When he first claimed self-aware miller, he said that he didn't know what circumstances would cause him to return as suspicious or normal (he talked about how certain people's checks may be reliable, certain may not). However, now he's claiming that his role PM told him that he'll return suspicious when there are less than half the players remaining in this game. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On September 02 2012 00:18 HiroPro wrote: Because for one, it's really unlikely to have certain millers be unaware, certain self-aware. Second, look at what s&b wrote. When he first claimed self-aware miller, he said that he didn't know what circumstances would cause him to return as suspicious or normal (he talked about how certain people's checks may be reliable, certain may not). However, now he's claiming that his role PM told him that he'll return suspicious when there are less than half the players remaining in this game. What SnB is saying sounds extremely made up and on the spot. Also if he knew he was a miller, wouldn't he have claimed it in the games theme, as suspicious detective? Im sure they wouldn't have said, you are miller, they would have said Suspicious Detective. ##Vote: StrongandBig | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
On September 02 2012 00:14 Node wrote: The role posted with Palmar's death was the role PM he received, correct? answer should be obvious, really. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
rofl. touché. | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
What's going on in this thread! Today is crazy for me, so I'm going to be making one post today, and that's it. Thoughts on NKs: I'm thinking Hapa was a town KP due to the flavor, and BMB was the scum KP. Knowing this is not particularly enlightening. I don't put any more faith in BMB's reads (or any less in Hapa's) because of this. Obviously, BMB was killed because he was acting very town. Look through his filter and use it as a town biased viewpoint. Don't ignore what dead townies have to say. I can't believe the town let Palmar be lynched Day 1. Sure, he was useless, but seriously? Town reads: MrZentor (unfortunately), Shady Sands (double unfortunately) and Node (WTF?????). Check out Node's previous games. In Hammer, he did basically the same thing, where he contributed next to nothing throughout all of Day 1, and he rolled Vig in that game. In this game, he was gone for most of the day, but when he came back he was opinionated and aggressive. Lurking scum would be much more apologetic. Zentor, start using your head. And Shady, read the fucking thread. Scum: MMToss, Risen, and S+B. I'm not convinced that's the scum team by any stretch, but those are the people in the thread I think are acting scummy. (Side note: I have no idea how many scum there are in this game at all. I'm assuming there is a team?) MMToss is a carry over from yesterday. No part of how the day played out makes me change my opinion on him. S+B, I'll comment on that at the end (new stuff in thread between when I started writing and finished writing). As far as Risen, Node is right. We have to hold him accountable for his part in the Palmar lynch. As town, Risen is aggressive and abrasive. As scum, Risen worships chaos (See TLM LIII). This is looking a lot more like scum Risen. Pressure him today and watch what happens. Null reads: Hiro (leaning town), Marv (leaning town), mkfuba (leaning newbie town), and hopeless1der (leaning scum). I don't have enough to really read any of these players. pre-edit: marv's interactions now with S+B are pushing me to place him more in the town category than the scum category. If S+B flips town, he goes down to scum. Looks like S+B probably fakeclaimed miller. Ballsy play on his part. This pushes Hiro to town read, and confirms what I suspected on S+B. ##vote strongandbig And now, I'm off! Don't do anything stupid while I'm gone. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On the one hand, this feels really easy. On the other... with Palmar's flip your claim looks like some sketch shit sab. You'll always be Samus in my eyes  | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
My case is going to focus on someone who was hard defending Palmar when they shouldn't have been. I'm going to look very hard at everyone who wasn't voting Palmar and then see what I find. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
Now you say this: "my role PM says that rolechecks on me before half the players in the game are dead will return detective and after that point they will return suspicious detective." You're lying. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On September 02 2012 00:27 Risen wrote: I'm going to write up a case regardless of what's happening in thread atm, actually. We'll see what sab comes back with. My case is going to focus on someone who was hard defending Palmar when they shouldn't have been. I'm going to look very hard at everyone who wasn't voting Palmar and then see what I find. what happened to shady? | ||
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