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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 19 2012 05:51 GMT
#2414
On September 19 2012 14:35 ShiaoPi wrote:
I'll be posting again later. Just for the record I'd rather lynch allinson today. out for now


OK I am definately up for it. BUT I would like to see some sort of a case. Rather than 'I would rather lynch her. '
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 19 2012 06:02 GMT
#2415
OK. I have soccer and the gym. Be back later. Hopefully someone other than myself and shiao have something substantial to say.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 19 2012 11:36 GMT
#2418
On September 19 2012 17:22 ShiaoPi wrote:
Okay I am pretty sure that the scumteam is Imallinson and Darthpunk.




Why?

First off imallinson:

All the things I pointed out in the night are still valid. Seeing Hopeless' flip actually strengthens the suspicion that I had about Imallinson switching to look "good" after a Gravan mislynch. As Hopeless was town he simply did not anticipate him switching 3 minutes prior to deadline. Imallinson switched 6 minutes prior to deadline, as hopeless was not posting during the time, I say that it was a pretty safe bet to have "bussed" SnB without the need to flip him, with a consequential gravan mislynch. As we know now, Hopeless messed that up. Imallinsons defense:

Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 03:28 imallinson wrote:
I've been real busy with uni work which is why I've been a bit absent recently. I don't understand Shiao's reads. I don't see how the two last people to join the lynch on SnB are scum. If we were why the hell would we bus our team mate when the vote was 6 on Gravan and 4 on SnB. We could have easily just left it as it was and got a mislynch. Kreb's reads seem much more plausible as both BM and Grush have seemed really anti town all game and could see one or both of them being scum.


is only valid if Hopeless would have been red. He flipped green and now it gets even more obvious that imallinsons voteswitch was not consequential if Hopeless had not hammered SnB last minute. Since the daypost imallinson has not been to the thread again, I say he is scum. Hopefully (troll)town is willing to go along with me on this vote.

##vote: Imallinson


On to Darthpunk:

I know I had him pegged as town the night before, but him wanting to lynch into BM/grush which is basically a coinflip is pretty damning in my eyes, also add the things I listed the night prior with buddying (it happened in this day-phase again) and the weird accusations thrown at Kreb. Obviously part of my read hinges on the fact that we I am connecting DP with Imallinson. There is also another interesting thing about the interactions between the two. Starting this day DP started to address imallinson as "she" (I have no clue about imallinsons gender) but nowhere in the thread did imallinson said that "she" was a girl and wanted to be adressed as such. That only leaves the option that they must have been communicating in private----> read ScumQT!
Also his posts today have been pretty defending towards imallinson, while I continued to add pressure on him/her. Why? He even says that imallinsons filter is:

Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:

- Grush shoved Me and allison into a scum team. I am not scum. And both Gravan and BM have pushed for me to be lynched. If gravan Is pushing allison as the other scum then it is likely she is town.

- I looked over her filter. Standard lurker fare. HOWEVER. She switched onto S&B when votes were 6-4 causing them to be 5-5 If she had not switched. S&B would not have been lynched. It is apparent to me that the sudden shift onto S&B was so swift that it took BM and Grush By surprise. I don't not think he was bussed. Therefore Imallison is TOWN.



Note that his first argument is firstly not really an argument as we have to take his sentence about his alignment at facevalue, but also why is it likely for imallinson to be town if she was pushed by gravan? Gravan flipped green.....It makes no fucking sense at all. I already invalidated the SnB switch argument which would be in favor of a green imallinson, so how can someone with "standard lurker fare" be a townread?




Yeah, if my trolly town-friends are willing to follow my reads we got this in the bag.

Lynch imallinson today, lynch Darthpunk tomorrow and we won. GG!

it also kind of happened as process of elimination. I'm not scum, I don't think that grush is scum right now. BM I am unsure of but I am pretty sure on imallinson and when he/she flips red DP is red as well.

Gogo my troll-friends! Put down those votes!


Well. That has got to be the worst case I have ever seen. I call goodkarma she/he interchangeably. and others. There is no gender on the internet and stating that because I use gender specific terms interchangeably is some sort of proof we communicate is ridiculous. Also I read the name as Allison in my head. Have stated it that all game (check my filter) obviously there is a reason I use she...
I think my theory by process of elimination is sound. I am not 100% on allison. But why the fuck would she have caused the mislynch of S&B when a gravan mislynch was inevitable without Swapping?
The rest of my 'soft defense' was clearly stating her filter to be a null read. Which it is. Read it yourself. Anyway If you lynch me we will lose. As you have now given an excuse for Grush and BM to do that very thing. This is pretty much GG.
You are obviously not scum. I just think you are being Incredibly stupid.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 19 2012 11:39 GMT
#2419
Also Shiao. You are giving BM and grush a free ride. read their incredibly scummy filters FFS. If one of them is not scum I will quit Mafia forever.

Yeah. We lose. Fucking Knew this would happen. All game I say 'Lynch BM and Grush they are scummy as fuck and major liability at LYLO.' Get to LYLO. Lose by the very fact of their existence.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 19 2012 11:44 GMT
#2423
On September 19 2012 20:34 imallinson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 17:22 ShiaoPi wrote:
Okay I am pretty sure that the scumteam is Imallinson and Darthpunk.




Why?

First off imallinson:

All the things I pointed out in the night are still valid. Seeing Hopeless' flip actually strengthens the suspicion that I had about Imallinson switching to look "good" after a Gravan mislynch. As Hopeless was town he simply did not anticipate him switching 3 minutes prior to deadline. Imallinson switched 6 minutes prior to deadline, as hopeless was not posting during the time, I say that it was a pretty safe bet to have "bussed" SnB without the need to flip him, with a consequential gravan mislynch. As we know now, Hopeless messed that up. Imallinsons defense:

On September 19 2012 03:28 imallinson wrote:
I've been real busy with uni work which is why I've been a bit absent recently. I don't understand Shiao's reads. I don't see how the two last people to join the lynch on SnB are scum. If we were why the hell would we bus our team mate when the vote was 6 on Gravan and 4 on SnB. We could have easily just left it as it was and got a mislynch. Kreb's reads seem much more plausible as both BM and Grush have seemed really anti town all game and could see one or both of them being scum.


is only valid if Hopeless would have been red. He flipped green and now it gets even more obvious that imallinsons voteswitch was not consequential if Hopeless had not hammered SnB last minute. Since the daypost imallinson has not been to the thread again, I say he is scum. Hopefully (troll)town is willing to go along with me on this vote.

##vote: Imallinson

If anything I'd say Hopeless being killed makes me look more town. Why, if I was scum, would I base my defence on someone who I know is going to die and who's dying makes me look really bad. I haven't been here since the day post due to trying to sleep/a bit of actually sleeping/waking up feeling like shit. If you look at my previous posting I've always either posted something quick if I had a strong read after the day post or nothing at all. As for the supposed bus of SnB it would make no sense from a scum perspective. Although I wouldn't know hopeless was around I knew Gravan was and if I was scum would have known he was town and would have switched his vote. As for who I think is scum I think Grush and BM look like a really obvious scum team. Your reason for for not thinking that is meta based and we've already had a terrible mislynch based on meta so I'm reluctant to go on that again. Both Grush and BM have been very anti town all game. You I see as definitely town because there is no reason for you to fake claim when you did. Darth is possibly scum but has generally played pro town so I'm much less sure about it than Grush or BM.
##Vote: Grush


Cool.

##unvote

##VOTE BILL MURRAY.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 19 2012 11:51 GMT
#2425
On September 19 2012 20:44 ShiaoPi wrote:
If gravan had been mislynched, imallinson would have looked much better than all of us who were on Gravan, easily could have swayed town to lynch either SnB the next day, which would give imallinson even more town cred, or lynch one of the bandwagoners on gravan


Right. Except she swung 2 votes with her switch and Pretty much secured S&B's lynch. So not right at all. The case you make is based on stretching things into the realm of implausibility because you are gambling on BM and Grush being town. That is what every single assumption you are making points towards. And your case on allison is based on a blatant misinterpretation of me. And viewing me as scum soft defending her. But I am town. So everything you said is wrong. And I don't see you make a case that is not based on association with me. WHICH IS WHAT I ASKED FOR WHEN I SAID I WOULD DEFIANTLY VOTE FOR ALLISON IF THERE WAS A CASE. I don't see how on earth you could be so fucking stupid to be honest. BM EVEN SEES PEOPLE WHO THINK HE IS TOWN AS SCUMMY. Jesus Christ. I wish Scum had not killed every other rational human being in this game.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 19 2012 12:16 GMT
#2434
On September 19 2012 20:49 ShiaoPi wrote:
DP thanks for claiming scum, splitting up towns (assuming you are town) votes at lylo makes no fucking sense from a town perspective since we need every vote of town on a single candidate to avoid a loss.
Nice outing as scumpartner of imallinson.

You said you are fine with lynching either grush or BM, your supposedly null-read votes one of your candidates and you change to the other? It would only make sense if you thought imallinson to be scum, but then you should vote with the confirmed townie (hint: me) onto imallinson...

I am pretty sure now:
Imallinson/Darthpunk are our scumteam!


We have a day left. This shit isn't final. Read my possible scum teams. Read were I said I would prefer to lynch BM countless times. Read were I said that it was either allison/BM or grush BM.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 19 2012 12:21 GMT
#2436
Shiao. You May be right on Allison but you are wrong on me. And I am going to rub it in your face post game buddy. I am also done with the thread for tonight.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 19 2012 12:25 GMT
#2438
On September 19 2012 21:21 ShiaoPi wrote:
If I am right on allinson how about voting with me?


I said I would if you provided a case. before all this shit happened. Your case is based on me being scum. I am not. Provide me something to go off that does not contain something I know to be incorrect. (me being scum) and I will consider it on it's merits. I told you this before. You have gone pants on head my friend.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 19 2012 12:26 GMT
#2439
EBWOP: I said you may be right. And quit with the passive aggressive emoticons please. Pet peeve. People do that on League of legends.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 19 2012 12:36 GMT
#2446
On September 19 2012 21:30 ShiaoPi wrote:
hahah DP, read the thread please

I voiced suspicions on allinson the night before:
+ Show Spoiler +
Imallinson:
He could very well be scum. I am having a null read leaning scum on him at the moment. First off, noticed something? Yeah he completely vanished after dropping the vote on shady, never posted since then again. Also as I checked through his filter, there is not much of meaningful contribution, the only "case" he did was on Gravan who flipped green. He has also generally been a non-factor in this game, flying perfectly under the radar as people focused on other "lurkers" instead of pursuing him. The only thing which keeps me back from having a clear scumread on him is the fact that he slightly bussed mattchew, although that is kind of a weak indicator seeing how his whole fakeclaim played out and that he was on the giant switch onto SnB. What is notable though on his vote on SnB is that he did not hammer him, so it could have been a bus anyway.

copied it again for you, add it up to the way he "defended" himself and its fucking clear he is scum :D
I am not tying a scumread on imallinson with your alignment, its the other way around! You are scum as soon as I got the confirmation of imallinson's red flip. EASY

I said it more than enough times already. Your post makes no sense, if I tied imallinsons alignment to yours I would lynch you first! I'm not, capiche?! :D :D :D
Since you are as good as confirmed scum to me, I won't be able to convince you of your red alignment anyway :D

My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!!


First of all the quoted is not a case on allison. You provided that in a list with all of us and are very wishy washy about his alignment in it. You are far less wishywashy now with no new info to speak of.

The rest of this post makes no fucking sense. If you think I am scum Lynch me now and get this charade over with. We are going to lose if Allison flips town. And we are going to Lose if Allison Flips scum. I am seriously pissed off at you now shiao.

I am asking all of you to vote for me first.

Here I'll help you.

##unvote

##Vote: DarthPunk.


GG Well played Scum.

I am AFK.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 19 2012 12:40 GMT
#2449
On September 19 2012 21:37 ShiaoPi wrote:
Aaah, the sweet smell of scum tears in the evening, it tastes of victory!


LOL. I am taking all of these posts of yours and collating them so when I flip town I can mock you with them. LMAO.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 19 2012 12:41 GMT
#2450
I am done now.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 19 2012 12:42 GMT
#2452
Why you not voting for me shiao. I am scum after all XD
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 19 2012 12:43 GMT
#2453
Seriously. Vote for me. Both Grush and BM said they wanted too. I'll even ask my scumbuddy to bus me. Sound good to you?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 19 2012 12:46 GMT
#2455
On September 19 2012 21:43 ShiaoPi wrote:
It gets easier to convince grush and BM onto you after allinson flips red, however if they both want to off you first, I will happily switch and still enjoy a town victory, but since they are not here right now, I am staying put


LOL they both said they wanted to vote for me. Stop stalling. Vote for me dude. No point in seeing a flip we might have lost by then. I really want you to mislynch me after all this shit you have been talking. Do it.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 19 2012 12:50 GMT
#2457
On September 19 2012 21:47 ShiaoPi wrote:
hahaha :D
Even if I switch now, it won't matter, since I need both of my favorite trolls to sheep me right now
Also, who are you kidding, your gonna flip red! xD


Just added to the post of Shiao's Shame LMAO. This is actually funny as hell

If it doesn't matter why not switch?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 19 2012 12:50 GMT
#2458
Stop stalling and vote for me dude.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 19 2012 12:53 GMT
#2460
If allison Flips green. We lose. If allison flips red you lynch me and we lose.

If You vote me we lose. But it saves me another day of this.

Vote for me.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 19 2012 12:55 GMT
#2462
On September 19 2012 21:52 ShiaoPi wrote:
You are sooo playing against your wincon, my friend, I fear for your safety xD
Seriously we are totally derailing the thread now, I'm just gonna wait around for grush and BM now


Well I hope they vote for me. I can't wait for the epic fail at Deadline. LMAO
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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