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On September 21 2012 10:16 ShiaoPi wrote: why BM if DP is much more likely to be scum? Besides the derpfest he did earlier nothing screams scum as much as DPs responses did.
BM is scum dude. I am voting for him in the next cycle. Every connection theory you had about me soft defending Allison BM is also guilty of. You are just obssessed with the idea of me being scum.
On another note. I would like to apologise for my behaviour in the last couple of days. It is a product of frustration. But it was unacceptable. And I am sorry for that. I am not getting into a protracted discussion with you again because I will doubtless get incredibly frustrated at your inability to see the truth. I will Vote BM. He is Scum.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
okay DP, since you are trying to keep it civil again, I'll try and do the same. Several things first: -BM is still a townleaning nullread, because he does not read, he does seem to care though but I would rate him right now as awful townie -I have had a townleaning nullread (by now it is pretty safe on townside) on grush pretty much the entire game, maybe call me stupid for doing it, but it feels like he is the towntrollversion. Also he does give a damn about the thread, does not spout as much nonsense as BM is, as a bonus he voted with me. -I am obviously the tracker
--> Process of elimination: 2 Out of DP, Hopeless and imallinson are scum. As hopeless gets killed off. I'm left with DP, imallinson 2/2 yay!
You can critisize me all you want DP for my belief into the trolls, but I am pretty sure on grush and BM seems to give a shit in his own stupid kind of way. Also add to that the fact that you gave allinson a hard defense as soon as I voiced suspicions on him (iirc I was the first to really call him out anyway) and the subsequent interactions between you two. You claim that imallinson is a nullish read to you but then you do not vote with him on one of your scumreads:
Just for viewing pleasure again:
On September 19 2012 20:49 ShiaoPi wrote: DP thanks for claiming scum, splitting up towns (assuming you are town) votes at lylo makes no fucking sense from a town perspective since we need every vote of town on a single candidate to avoid a loss. Nice outing as scumpartner of imallinson.
You said you are fine with lynching either grush or BM, your supposedly null-read votes one of your candidates and you change to the other? It would only make sense if you thought imallinson to be scum, but then you should vote with the confirmed townie (hint: me) onto imallinson...
I am pretty sure now: Imallinson/Darthpunk are our scumteam!
That was your scumslip and since then I have been like 99,9% sure that you are our last remaining scum. Also the way you tried all the time to bait me into switching onto you or someone else than allinson was pretty much the nail in the coffin for you. You are scum, if BM starts to see reason and I can convince grush, we got this.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
EBWOP:
Also another argument which employs heavy WIFOM and stuff. Trolls like BM and grush will always survive until lylo/mylo if the town KP gets killed early. It is just too tempting for scum to have an easy mislynch/fallback-case to have in the scenario. So I am following a theory of mine that the person who targets the scummy lurker/troll first in lylo/mylo is scum, trying to make the easy lynch happen.
It worked in my 2nd Newbiegame (which we still lost to said lurker not being around) and it seems to be working here as well.
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I said I wanted a case on allison before I voted for her. I was sure that he was not scum cause of the bus of S&B. I also put two possible scum teams out. BM - Grush (which I was leaning towards) Or BM - Allison. I then said countless times I wanted to vote BM. We had over 24hours to go. I was not splitting up the vote. I was reacting to the info in the thread. That is not a scum slip at all. I wanted you all to vote me because I did not at the time want to go through this very situation of me being mislynched regardless of allisons alignment. If she had flipped green we would have lost. And If she flipped red than because of your flawed connection theory we lose cause you then mislynch me. The only reason I am here is because I don't want to throw the game and I am trying to convince you. I am not scum. If you lynch me town loses.
I don't see how you make the town read on BM. I kind of get grush. But BM voted against every Scum lynch this game bar mattchew. He also had a town read on allison (something which to you proves I am scum) which you ignore as it doesn't fit your theory that you are obviously far too attached to. To me he is obviously the last scum. Your arguments are selective and riddled with Bias. You have no evidence. You have an Opinion and are making the case around this opinion. Rather than your opinion around the case.
The things you bring up are in no way evidence. and your interpretation is unsound.
So. Now your position is on the table and so is mine. I feel that you have no case and no evidence. I think that you are incredibly biased. And that you are seeing things that aren't there due to this bias. I am town. BM is scum. BM will vote for me no doubt, as will you. It comes down to grush. And I will respect his decision.
OK. That is it. I am not going to check the thread again. No doubt you will repeat your "case" ad nauseum to get your mislynch. I am incredibly frustrated at you and this whole situation so I will not respond further in the hopes of controlling my temper.
Please try and keep an Open mind. I feel if you do it would be clear to you I am town and that BM is scum.
Anyway. GLHF.
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On September 21 2012 16:56 ShiaoPi wrote: EBWOP:
Also another argument which employs heavy WIFOM and stuff. Trolls like BM and grush will always survive until lylo/mylo if the town KP gets killed early. It is just too tempting for scum to have an easy mislynch/fallback-case to have in the scenario. So I am following a theory of mine that the person who targets the scummy lurker/troll first in lylo/mylo is scum, trying to make the easy lynch happen.
It worked in my 2nd Newbiegame (which we still lost to said lurker not being around) and it seems to be working here as well.
I think you know how useless this speculation is. Oddly enough, it is probably the only case you have on me. But, It is still useless and should be ignored.
I can't possibly see myself dying tonight. (although it would be awesome if I did.) So I will see whoever is left in the morning.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
@DP:
The thing is BM is utterly unreadable if you take his posts at facevalue. You could say I am gambling the outcome of the game, but my gut says its you and not BM. Also I already said it once, if BM is the last scum I will do my best to kill him in every game thereafter. And you will get a big fat apology from me.
But for now, IF (thats a huge if) I survive I will continue to push for your lynch. It does not seem rational I guess, but I am now going along with my gut.
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On September 21 2012 17:29 ShiaoPi wrote: @DP:
The thing is BM is utterly unreadable if you take his posts at facevalue. You could say I am gambling the outcome of the game, but my gut says its you and not BM. Also I already said it once, if BM is the last scum I will do my best to kill him in every game thereafter. And you will get a big fat apology from me.
But for now, IF (thats a huge if) I survive I will continue to push for your lynch. It does not seem rational I guess, but I am now going along with my gut.
Well thanks for admitting it is not rational and that you are gambling. That makes this much less frustrating at least. I look forward to your apology and hope to be on friendly terms after this lynch. To be honest. I think policy lynching BM is a great Idea.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
huehuehue, well for me my gutread is rational, just saying it might seem irrational to others 
and no worries about post-game, stuff like this stays where it was .
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DP is actually making an effort whereas BM is just sitting there letting you two kill eachother off.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
The thing is BM is consistent with his non-caring stupid attitude. DP just went bonkers as I pressured him in connection with imallinson. Please please please listen to me grush! 
It will most probably be you, BM and DP after the night anyway >_>
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Ahh yeah idk BM plays the same either way.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
Just see it as some kind of troll-broship. You do not lynch him for being a troll, when you are one yourself
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
ebwop: anyway I am off to bed.
I can only repeat myself here before I get shot, Lynch DarthPunk!
Thanks! :>
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WHY WOULD IMALLINSON NOT SWITCH TO DARTHPUNK? HMMMMMMM
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very interesting i was wrong about imallinson... darthpunk has been getting his name wrong... don't think he'd do that with is buddy... but so has grush
that means shiaopi is scum and there is no tracker like i expected
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On September 22 2012 02:38 Bill Murray wrote: WHY WOULD IMALLINSON NOT SWITCH TO DARTHPUNK? HMMMMMMM
To put false leads?
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
I think a daypost went missing.... oh and BM you are just fucking retarded. sorry for my language but what the hell.
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Yeah. Shiao Pi is clearly Town. But you, BM are SCUM.
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Sigh, both DP and BM are/have had their idiotic moments so its a 50/50 between who is scum really. But my bet is still on BM
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