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Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 22 2012 22:28 GMT
#521
On August 23 2012 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 06:51 Lvdr wrote:
Take 3: Does VE have a history of successfully reading scum d1? aka What is the chance that Shady flips red based on Ve's read?


AH, the CRUX.

In asking if I have a history of "successfully reading scum D1", ven if I have 100% accuracy in the past, this is completely meaningless unless you are operating under the premise that I'm town and am READING Shady. It shows his true thoughts on me (that I'm town) hiding beneath his actions (his vote, the questions, the ruse) and betrays preexisting knowledge of my alignment.

Chez, you truly are inspirational.

##Unvote
##Vote Lvdr


I don't see how this means I'm operating under the premise that you're 100% town. Since it is day 1, everyone can be town OR mafia, and must be analyzed from both points of view.

I'm trying to determine IF you are town, have you had success in similar positions in the past?
Is it plausible that you're a townie that has a read that goes contrary to mine? (I think Shady is bad townie)


Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 22 2012 22:30 GMT
#522
EBWOP: Otherwise VE is just trying to bandwagon a bad townie.
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 22 2012 22:35 GMT
#523
Also, my questioning was designed to refine my read on VE. Because nobody was answering my questions, I tried rephrasing them multiple times. Somehow that turned into a scumslip?
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 22 2012 22:44 GMT
#524
He's wondering if I'm "reading you accurately" while voting me. He's SAYING he thinks I'm scum, but he slips my alignment in asking if I'm "reading you accurately"...which is something only town can do (scum don't read anyone, they know everyone's alignment).


The reason I found your case scummy is that I found it too naive for an experienced player, hence my question about past reads. If this is standard play from you it is a lot less suspicious. If it raises red flags for other players that have played with you before then my mafia read is strengthened.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 22 2012 22:46 GMT
#525
Go ahead and tell the class what you found naive about my case.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 22 2012 22:47 GMT
#526
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836&currentpage=24#463
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 22 2012 22:52 GMT
#527
Okay, now explain why that makes me naive. You're saying Shady is non-confrontational and/or aloof. I submit that those are traits that can be attributed to scum and town both, but with a higher frequency in scum. Why is it a "rookie-mistake" to call Shady out on this?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 22 2012 23:03 GMT
#528
The fact of the matter is that its not. He is acting with knowledge I don't have access to. He assumes it is a rookie mistake because (I'm guessing) he onows I'm wrong...this is supported by the fact that this whole thing is about him trying to backpedal on his "reads" of me and Shady respectively.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 22 2012 23:07 GMT
#529
I think you're falling into the 'badtownie-looking-scummy' trap.

for example "This was before you entered the thread. So you're either not reading the thread (my guess) or you're blatantly and maliciously misrepresenting the facts. Which is it Shady?"

Here you're pressuring Shady quite hard, but I think Shady was doing his patented 'misunderstand what's going on' just as he did in this post
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836&currentpage=12#225
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 22 2012 23:10 GMT
#530
On August 23 2012 07:35 Lvdr wrote:
Also, my questioning was designed to refine my read on VE. Because nobody was answering my questions, I tried rephrasing them multiple times. Somehow that turned into a scumslip?


It really did sound like you were presuming him innocent despite the fact that you're voting for him. Not just in that question but in the previous ones as well.
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 22 2012 23:11 GMT
#531
how does that make any sense at all?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 22 2012 23:15 GMT
#532
that's kind of the point haha
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 22 2012 23:17 GMT
#533
I mean as a scumslip.
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 22 2012 23:19 GMT
#534
My last defense is that lynching controversial players d1 almost always ends up as a mislynch.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 22 2012 23:28 GMT
#535
what the fuck?

people best not be voting Lvdr because of that 'scumslip'.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 22 2012 23:30 GMT
#536
RTFT dear.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 22 2012 23:33 GMT
#537
yeah, 5 pages appeared while I was 3v3ing (my offrace terran kicks ass). Gonna try to make sense of what's what while I roll
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 22 2012 23:52 GMT
#538
in other news i am still suspicious of bluelightz.

he has provided no reads and continues to lurk. I would encourage everyone to take a closer look at him.

On August 22 2012 23:42 Bluelightz wrote:


Defense in points:

1. If the response is townie, then I believed he is townie, why should I NOT retract my suspicion? It's kinda pointless if ye see.

2.Why is the reasoning I provided bad?(Hint: your reasoning is pointless bullshit)

3.Didn't give insight till pushed because I didn't feel the need too.

4.Why is when I got into the game a factor in me being scum?(Hint: explain), It's not like I should always post when I'm not ready.



his main defense i find to be less than substantial. He seem to be more attacking me than just simply answering the questions. His snarky remarks also don help if he truely is town why dosent he just defend himself and start hunting scum?

I want blueligtz in here now and i want him to give us more to go on.

Also i dont think lvdr is scum and i dont think that was a slip.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 22 2012 23:54 GMT
#539
On August 23 2012 08:52 iamperfection wrote:
in other news i am still suspicious of bluelightz.

he has provided no reads and continues to lurk. I would encourage everyone to take a closer look at him.

Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 23:42 Bluelightz wrote:


Defense in points:

1. If the response is townie, then I believed he is townie, why should I NOT retract my suspicion? It's kinda pointless if ye see.

2.Why is the reasoning I provided bad?(Hint: your reasoning is pointless bullshit)

3.Didn't give insight till pushed because I didn't feel the need too.

4.Why is when I got into the game a factor in me being scum?(Hint: explain), It's not like I should always post when I'm not ready.



his main defense i find to be less than substantial. He seem to be more attacking me than just simply answering the questions. His snarky remarks also don help if he truely is town why dosent he just defend himself and start hunting scum?

I want blueligtz in here now and i want him to give us more to go on.

Also i dont think lvdr is scum and i dont think that was a slip.


Don't think what was a slip, Perfect One?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 22 2012 23:57 GMT
#540
On August 23 2012 06:51 Lvdr wrote:
Take 3: Does VE have a history of successfully reading scum d1? aka What is the chance that Shady flips red based on Ve's read?


I believe thats what is being talked about right???????????????????????????????????????
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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