EPTI can be persuaded to switch to misder
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
I can be persuaded to switch to misder can we get a vote count | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
misder - draz, jingle, kurumi dirk - Zeph, Matt ve - hiro, dirk | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:58 HiroPro wrote: wiggles - ken, grush, austin misder - draz, jingle, kurumi dirk - Zeph, Matt ve - hiro, dirk What he said | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:40 austinmcc wrote: First off, can the person who created the role for Magnemite please confirm that Supersonic confuses the target and redirects its action to a random pokemon? Specifically the "confuse" portion of that. Role/Ability Claims Zephirdd (Unknown pokemon, "medic" role) - + Show Spoiler + On August 20 2012 08:28 Zephirdd wrote: How about the "lynch whoever throws KP around randomly"? Also I am a medic. Go figure. I'm still a medic and I'll still protect someone tonight, don't worry. Also, I may have claimed medic because I knew the strategy would be spoiled so scum would never shoot me WHAT NOW SCUM HUH COME ON SHOOT ME ohwait you will not WIFOMWIFOWMIFOM TAKE IT SCUM anyway and possiblyPretty sure our bulletproof medic protected someone who evolved. Kurumi (Caterpie/Metapod, unknown power) - + Show Spoiler + On August 20 2012 07:49 Kurumi wrote: Also my role could singlehandedly imbalance game in someone's favour just fyi My role is maybe two tiers above Oracle I have only one power this sucks I am Butterfly and I can roleblock people and remove their resistances in one action. I am an useless role for town. My power is pure scum power. If I was a Framer with cancel resistance my power would be on par with Oracle. Maybe I will be able to roleblock a dangerous individual. I am not a vig , dt or medic for fucks sake , I am a roleblocker cancelling resistances. Nah I lied about my role to help Drazerk Also I am Caterpie. Sue me. I am braindead so I forgot that Draz made my role and I am the laser guy lol Drazerk (Unknown bug type, can use "sunny day") - + Show Spoiler + I'm a bug type so fire / flying / rock types - Bring it Concerning the power he created, presumably Kurumi's Claiming who you made the role for OR what your role is will result in you being turned into a VT - This is multi target infinite use with no drawbacks (ok one minor drawback but lol who cares about that when you have an unstoppable VT laser(They will never know about it even though it is in effect right now)) It took a lot of arguments to get this role into the game but there is only one way around the power that I can't divulge but should be obvious if it is triggered however those already effected won't be able to do anything about it sadly ##Sunny Day Fire damage now does 0.5kp more damage which shouldn't be too bad when you consider we just killed 1 of 3 fire pokemon in the first generation Water damage now does 0.5kp LESS which should reduce over all KP considering just how many water pokemon there is in every generation (so many water pokemon) and put a lot more focus on the lynches rather than all the crazy powers. Grush (Unknown pokemon, vengeful role(?)) - + Show Spoiler + Oh yea vigis hit me see what happens ;D No, do it, I dare you. Regardless if my abilities are true, scum thinks I'm screwing with town and won't shoot me unless all the people left in the thread are scum which wouldn't suprise me, and town vigis, I hope you realize there are much better targets than me, I would suggest Biosc. Mattchew (Pikachu, vig role) - + Show Spoiler + i am pikachu, a blue pokemon, who can do .5 kp of damage every night JingleHell (Magnemite, has "Supersonic" which can redirect abilities) - + Show Spoiler + By the way, if Mattchew used his KP, it didn't land on target, since he was confused, courtesy of yours truly, Magnemite. In fact, reading the flavor text, it may have inadvertently been the cause of death of Toad, going by the "shocking end" bit. I cause an ability to hit a random target. I'm not entirely sure why the flavor is different than that of a confused Pokemon hitting themselves, though. Supersonic. Confusion that makes it hit the wrong target. Random target, as determined by host. I'm guessing that's what toasted Toad, the Giovanni with a Meowth. Everyone else alive is unclaimed, as far as I could tell. Extra Stuff Shot/kill flavors: + Show Spoiler + On August 26 2012 07:50 austinmcc wrote: Housekeeping. Shot/Kill flavors + Show Spoiler + On August 22 2012 01:55 GreYMisT wrote: Meowth used payday on VisceraEyes! Ouch that hurt! (colors are not reflective of alignment) On August 23 2012 06:18 GreYMisT wrote: Bumatlarge, the Voltorb and Chezinu, the Gastly fainted due to psychic damage! StrongandBig, The Charmander became confused! He Fried himself in his confusion! StrongandBig fainted! Kitaman27, The Clefairy was captured by Team Rocket! Toadestern, as Giovanni with a Meowth met a shocking end On August 23 2012 20:19 deconduo wrote: BloodyC0bbler has been incinerated. On August 26 2012 06:14 deconduo wrote: We know that the amount of scum KP is hidden. Out of the flavors we've seen, I would think "captured by Team Rocket" is the mafia factional kill. If that's the case, then mafia's KP was disrupted last night. Heist, the Koffing, has been electrocuted. Wherebugsgo, the MewTwo/Mr. Mime, got too much sun. Evolutions: + Show Spoiler + On August 23 2012 06:18 deconduo wrote: Magikarp has evolved into Gyrados Bulbasaur has evolved into Ivysaur On August 26 2012 06:14 deconduo wrote: Caterpie has evolved into Metapod Dratini has evolved into Dragonair I already confirmed it in the thread. | ||
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BioSC
United States636 Posts
My 2 choices are misder or VE. Misder for his active lurking + the play around the time of yesterday's lynch. VE, because the case by HiroPro + Show Spoiler + On August 27 2012 09:03 HiroPro wrote: I haven't really read much since Toad died, so fresh look and all lol. Dirkzor I think is town. His early play I think was mostly just because of how much pressure he was under from BC and I think he's actually trying to contribute. I think VE is scum now for a couple of reasons. First, the thing with grush still strikes me as really uncharacteristic of town VE. VE is someone who throws out policy lynches as town, but it's almost always "if we have no strong scum reads, we should lynch a lurker". For him to push a policy lynch on a person for their play in other games is just mind-boggling. VE has always emphasized that there is no such thing as an "useless townie" because they're still a member of town to count against the mafia wincon, yet now his views have suddenly flipped. If you look at the LVI postgame (the last game with VE and grush in it), there's nothing to suggest that VE was unduly mad. Yes, I know he made some comment pregame about how grush would likely just lurk and troll, but at least before VE pushed the policy lynch, grush had seemed ok in activity and was at least responding to others. Next looking at the whole Wiggles-BC feud: Beforehand VE had said that he thought Wiggles was scum. But then when the cases come out, literally the only thing VE has to say about those two cases is a mild dislike of one of BC's points. Otherwise he just says afterward " BC died trying to get Wiggles lynched" and "Then he's absent for half of today, only to build a case against one of town's stronger scumhunters and disappear again.". That doesn't look like VE analyzing someone's play and reaching a conclusion based on that. It looks like him making a preconceived judgement and fitting what happens around it. Then, the amount of times VE promises thoughts and reads but then when he comes back has pretty much nothing useful to say. I know someone is going to bring up the shot done by Toad, but frankly I think it could just be separation. Toad knew it was only 0.5 KP and not going to pose a threat to VE actually dying. Maybe I'm being an idiot right now in ignoring BC lol, but it's not like I've been doing anything this game for some time now. ##Vote VisceraEyes Makes sense to me. And the more I go through cases and stuff, the less confident I am about them. Great. Tell you what. I'm going to go sheep the veteran flipped townie. My reads are shit and I know it. ##Vote Wiggles | ||
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
On August 25 2012 02:04 Misder wrote: Hi again. Day 2 post- the only thing of importance (besides the fact that two people flipped scum) is the flavor of the kills. BC vs Wiggles into BC getting dayvig shot- I had BC as scum at the end of Day 1, so I don't believe it's that bad of a shot if it was a town dayvig. (Though obviously, it could be a scum dayvig that wanted to get rid of a vet...). Same thing as before, can't really tell the alignment of the shot. Wiggles put a lot of effort into the case though, which leads me to believe that he's town. I also have WBG as town, though I haven't looked carefully at his filter yet. I just get a town vibe from him. Also VE is town. Drazerk's posting has gotten way better, making me think he's town as well. Mattchew is interesting. When I played with him before GMarshal's PYP, he did the exact same thing he did day 1 when he was town (pointing fingers without backing stuff up, and posting one-liners all the time aka being scummy). If I was going to vote on meta, I would say that Mattchew is a bad lynch target. But I'm not, so ##Vote:Mattchew. Also, there's a JingleHell v Mattchew and a Mattchew v Dirkzor thing going on (where the first person is the one attacking). As for JingleHell, I was actually writing a case on him but it stopped when I read the post where he claimed a role. That claim seems out of the blue, which I don't know if scum would do. He's obviously being more productive though (pushing a Mattchew case) so I don't mind him being alive for now. I feel like lynching Dirkzor would clear up a lot of stuff though, and I still think he's being scummy. But Mattchew works too. This: On August 28 2012 03:29 Mementoss wrote: Why did wiggles come in just to have his speech of why people shouldnt vote him but never talked about any one being scum On VE: I don't understand why scum would have any incentive to hit a scum VE really. Toad wasn't going to claim Meowth, and scum had no guarantee that Toad was going to die Night 1. So, then if VE is scum, then they would be banking on the fact that Toad would die eventually. | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:10 BioSC wrote: Whelp. As it turns out, MLG weekend + TI2 Weekend plus lots of procrastinated homework means one inactive Bio. Combine that with a general "woe is me" about my reads in general makes it hard to put forth the effort. Well, here we go again. My 2 choices are misder or VE. Misder for his active lurking + the play around the time of yesterday's lynch. VE, because the case by HiroPro + Show Spoiler + On August 27 2012 09:03 HiroPro wrote: I haven't really read much since Toad died, so fresh look and all lol. Dirkzor I think is town. His early play I think was mostly just because of how much pressure he was under from BC and I think he's actually trying to contribute. I think VE is scum now for a couple of reasons. First, the thing with grush still strikes me as really uncharacteristic of town VE. VE is someone who throws out policy lynches as town, but it's almost always "if we have no strong scum reads, we should lynch a lurker". For him to push a policy lynch on a person for their play in other games is just mind-boggling. VE has always emphasized that there is no such thing as an "useless townie" because they're still a member of town to count against the mafia wincon, yet now his views have suddenly flipped. If you look at the LVI postgame (the last game with VE and grush in it), there's nothing to suggest that VE was unduly mad. Yes, I know he made some comment pregame about how grush would likely just lurk and troll, but at least before VE pushed the policy lynch, grush had seemed ok in activity and was at least responding to others. Next looking at the whole Wiggles-BC feud: Beforehand VE had said that he thought Wiggles was scum. But then when the cases come out, literally the only thing VE has to say about those two cases is a mild dislike of one of BC's points. Otherwise he just says afterward " BC died trying to get Wiggles lynched" and "Then he's absent for half of today, only to build a case against one of town's stronger scumhunters and disappear again.". That doesn't look like VE analyzing someone's play and reaching a conclusion based on that. It looks like him making a preconceived judgement and fitting what happens around it. Then, the amount of times VE promises thoughts and reads but then when he comes back has pretty much nothing useful to say. I know someone is going to bring up the shot done by Toad, but frankly I think it could just be separation. Toad knew it was only 0.5 KP and not going to pose a threat to VE actually dying. Maybe I'm being an idiot right now in ignoring BC lol, but it's not like I've been doing anything this game for some time now. ##Vote VisceraEyes Makes sense to me. And the more I go through cases and stuff, the less confident I am about them. Great. Tell you what. I'm going to go sheep the veteran flipped townie. My reads are shit and I know it. ##Vote Wiggles so you think VE or misder are scum yet you vote wiggles, wat | ||
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BioSC
United States636 Posts
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:54 Mattchew wrote: I am still voting dirkzor, because he is scum. I can be persuaded to switch to misder can we get a vote count why you think dirkzor is scum | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:10 Misder wrote: People think I'm scum mainly because of + Show Spoiler + On August 25 2012 02:04 Misder wrote: Hi again. Day 2 post- the only thing of importance (besides the fact that two people flipped scum) is the flavor of the kills. BC vs Wiggles into BC getting dayvig shot- I had BC as scum at the end of Day 1, so I don't believe it's that bad of a shot if it was a town dayvig. (Though obviously, it could be a scum dayvig that wanted to get rid of a vet...). Same thing as before, can't really tell the alignment of the shot. Wiggles put a lot of effort into the case though, which leads me to believe that he's town. I also have WBG as town, though I haven't looked carefully at his filter yet. I just get a town vibe from him. Also VE is town. Drazerk's posting has gotten way better, making me think he's town as well. Mattchew is interesting. When I played with him before GMarshal's PYP, he did the exact same thing he did day 1 when he was town (pointing fingers without backing stuff up, and posting one-liners all the time aka being scummy). If I was going to vote on meta, I would say that Mattchew is a bad lynch target. But I'm not, so ##Vote:Mattchew. Also, there's a JingleHell v Mattchew and a Mattchew v Dirkzor thing going on (where the first person is the one attacking). As for JingleHell, I was actually writing a case on him but it stopped when I read the post where he claimed a role. That claim seems out of the blue, which I don't know if scum would do. He's obviously being more productive though (pushing a Mattchew case) so I don't mind him being alive for now. I feel like lynching Dirkzor would clear up a lot of stuff though, and I still think he's being scummy. But Mattchew works too. This: On VE: I don't understand why scum would have any incentive to hit a scum VE really. Toad wasn't going to claim Meowth, and scum had no guarantee that Toad was going to die Night 1. So, then if VE is scum, then they would be banking on the fact that Toad would die eventually. Who are your best scum reads and why | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:10 BioSC wrote: Whelp. As it turns out, MLG weekend + TI2 Weekend plus lots of procrastinated homework means one inactive Bio. Combine that with a general "woe is me" about my reads in general makes it hard to put forth the effort. Well, here we go again. My 2 choices are misder or VE. Misder for his active lurking + the play around the time of yesterday's lynch. VE, because the case by HiroPro + Show Spoiler + On August 27 2012 09:03 HiroPro wrote: I haven't really read much since Toad died, so fresh look and all lol. Dirkzor I think is town. His early play I think was mostly just because of how much pressure he was under from BC and I think he's actually trying to contribute. I think VE is scum now for a couple of reasons. First, the thing with grush still strikes me as really uncharacteristic of town VE. VE is someone who throws out policy lynches as town, but it's almost always "if we have no strong scum reads, we should lynch a lurker". For him to push a policy lynch on a person for their play in other games is just mind-boggling. VE has always emphasized that there is no such thing as an "useless townie" because they're still a member of town to count against the mafia wincon, yet now his views have suddenly flipped. If you look at the LVI postgame (the last game with VE and grush in it), there's nothing to suggest that VE was unduly mad. Yes, I know he made some comment pregame about how grush would likely just lurk and troll, but at least before VE pushed the policy lynch, grush had seemed ok in activity and was at least responding to others. Next looking at the whole Wiggles-BC feud: Beforehand VE had said that he thought Wiggles was scum. But then when the cases come out, literally the only thing VE has to say about those two cases is a mild dislike of one of BC's points. Otherwise he just says afterward " BC died trying to get Wiggles lynched" and "Then he's absent for half of today, only to build a case against one of town's stronger scumhunters and disappear again.". That doesn't look like VE analyzing someone's play and reaching a conclusion based on that. It looks like him making a preconceived judgement and fitting what happens around it. Then, the amount of times VE promises thoughts and reads but then when he comes back has pretty much nothing useful to say. I know someone is going to bring up the shot done by Toad, but frankly I think it could just be separation. Toad knew it was only 0.5 KP and not going to pose a threat to VE actually dying. Maybe I'm being an idiot right now in ignoring BC lol, but it's not like I've been doing anything this game for some time now. ##Vote VisceraEyes Makes sense to me. And the more I go through cases and stuff, the less confident I am about them. Great. Tell you what. I'm going to go sheep the veteran flipped townie. My reads are shit and I know it. ##Vote Wiggles Ahahahahahahahaha | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
On August 25 2012 04:37 Misder wrote: Really, this lynch is between 3 townies. This is ridiculous. Together with mementoss case yesterday he comes of as scum to me. I would still like to see VE dead. So go vote him! Mementoss what is your thought on VE? | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
Now that your here who do you think are scum. | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:23 Dirkzor wrote: Reading Misder's filter I get the feeling he knows something I don't. His claim the WBG was town out of the blue. His defence of hopeless and mattchew: Together with mementoss case yesterday he comes of as scum to me. I would still like to see VE dead. So go vote him! Mementoss what is your thought on VE? VE is being really useless, fake promises, has more filter than me yet I don't remember much of anything he has done to try and help town. There is a good chance he's scum. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On August 28 2012 03:46 HiroPro wrote: austin, what do you think of VE? I caught the first couple days secondhand, so some of the timing may be missing, but:
I'm still much more convinced about Wiggles atm. I remember almost being convinced by Wiggles's defense in LV, and so haven't been fully responding to him in this game. I did go back and look at some past games, draw some conclusions, but right now I think there's enough to lynch him without having to derail the thread going back and forth with more in-depth analysis than is out there. I think BC's case was alright, I know BC was town, I am trusting that BC is a good townie, and I have my own suspicions. If Wiggles flips red, then VE looks a little more interesting to me. Could see D1 being Toad/Wiggles distancing themselves from VE (Toad and VE at odds, Wiggles votes VE and left his vote on VE). Toad dying N1 unexpectedly (if we assume pikachu kp + redidrection from supersonic) sort of lessens the value of that plan. The dropoff in activity COULD be because they were active to set up that distancing, then had the scheme ruined with Toad's death and so no longer needed to be active in order to plant that idea in people's heads. So right now, I'm not worried. If Wiggles flips red, I'll be a little more worried, but a Toad/VE/Chez/Wiggles scumteam seems a little stacked. That's another reason I'm not liking VE for scum, because it certainly seems like SOMEONE out of heist/misder/BioSC/hiropro (yes, you're included there for me) should be scummy, and then that'd most likely be the full team (although there could still be more third parties). | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
I somewhat agree that wiggles or VE is scum. But thats mostly due to the fact that none of them is dead by now. I feel so much stronger about VE though. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:27 austinmcc wrote: I caught the first couple days secondhand, so some of the timing may be missing, but:
I'm still much more convinced about Wiggles atm. I remember almost being convinced by Wiggles's defense in LV, and so haven't been fully responding to him in this game. I did go back and look at some past games, draw some conclusions, but right now I think there's enough to lynch him without having to derail the thread going back and forth with more in-depth analysis than is out there. I think BC's case was alright, I know BC was town, I am trusting that BC is a good townie, and I have my own suspicions. If Wiggles flips red, then VE looks a little more interesting to me. Could see D1 being Toad/Wiggles distancing themselves from VE (Toad and VE at odds, Wiggles votes VE and left his vote on VE). Toad dying N1 unexpectedly (if we assume pikachu kp + redidrection from supersonic) sort of lessens the value of that plan. The dropoff in activity COULD be because they were active to set up that distancing, then had the scheme ruined with Toad's death and so no longer needed to be active in order to plant that idea in people's heads. So right now, I'm not worried. If Wiggles flips red, I'll be a little more worried, but a Toad/VE/Chez/Wiggles scumteam seems a little stacked. That's another reason I'm not liking VE for scum, because it certainly seems like SOMEONE out of heist/misder/BioSC/hiropro (yes, you're included there for me) should be scummy, and then that'd most likely be the full team (although there could still be more third parties). what is this crap. are you seriously fucking trying to figure out a scum team based on balance. | ||
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Kurumi
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
On August 28 2012 04:26 Mementoss wrote: VE is being really useless, fake promises, has more filter than me yet I don't remember much of anything he has done to try and help town. There is a good chance he's scum. Then vote him! | ||
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