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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 23 2012 01:09 GMT
#892
On August 23 2012 10:08 Kurumi wrote:
Zephir is town


What makes you say that?
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 23 2012 22:08 GMT
#1044
Busy day today. Got a lot to catch back up on. Checking the voting thread it seems to be Dirk and Matt atm?

Let me know if you need something immediately from me. Brb 10 mins.
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 24 2012 00:02 GMT
#1054
Kay, lets try to actually be right on scumhunting for once.

I looked through the flips for Day 2. Something that struck me as interesting is that there was what I believe to be only 1 scum KP. The other PTP games had different flavor for kills, depending on what their role was, and Kita's was the only one that mentioned "Team Rocket" or the scum team. I looked through Kita's filter to try and see why scum would shoot him, the only thing I could find was this:
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On August 22 2012 02:08 kitaman27 wrote:
Bah I had forgotten that the deadlines this game were so early. I should have caught up with the thread this morning, rather than saving it for my 20 minute lunch. Unforutnately I won't be back by the deadline.

Something I meant to mention earlier is that we should strongly consider taking role claims once a lynch is almost certainly decided. Unlike normal games, fake claims are much less likely due to the fact that someone else has submitted it. A role claim may allow a scum player to live an extra night, if we aren't careful, but if a town aligned player about to be lynched is offering up a confirmable role that shows they have the town's best interest in mind, we should consider following through with it.

The post bugs had pointed out about imallinson being wishy-washy was something that I had noticed as well. Hopefully bugs isn't taking advantage of a poorly constructed newbie post, but I don't have someone better to put forward right now. I wish I had more time to look into people who aren't attracting much attention like bum, mattchew or chezinu, but unfortunately I don't. Also, I'm concerned that draz has dropped off activity.

VE is still a head case (<3).


of the people he was concerned about, 1 flipped town, 1 flipped scum, and 2 unknown. People have also mentioned the Toad/Draz connection. It's possible he was on to multiple scums and was a good shot, even though he didn't directly accuse any of them, so few connections there. WIFOM'y stuff.

With regards to Mattchew: He's been tunnelling Dirkzor HARD. Like, I don't think he's even mentioned anyone else as a lynch candidate. Other than that, there isn't much to his filter. A couple of soft accusations against people for small things, reads changing, ect.

With Dirkzor, there's the obvious that has been pointed out by a few people already, and that's Toad's distance from both him and zeph. The thing is, looking through his filter, I see a lot of defensiveness and agressive attacks towards people who accuse him. That isn't a scumtell by itself, though. I'm feeling a townie vibe from his filter, simply because he was actually discussing more targets than one, as well as defending himself.

With the flip of BC, I feel like it was 2 townies going at each other, with a mafia kp in there to try and get a mislynch. So I can't really read one way or the other on Mr. Wiggles right now based just upon that.

Finally, one thing I'm surprised that no one talked about, was the claimed vigi shot from StrongandBig. He claimed a shot onto Drazerk right before the Day post, but ended up being confused. That could be an effect from mafia, casting confusion onto a character with a chance to kill themselves, or possibly a redirect off of Draz. I don't know what it could have been, but it is interesting nonetheless.

Of the two candidates right now, I would like to vote Mattchew over Dirk. It basically boils down to me finding him more scummy than Dirk. Though I would still like people to look at Zeph a little more.

##Vote Mattchew

Uggh, I'm terrible at scumhunting. This took way longer than 10 mins.
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 24 2012 00:05 GMT
#1055
EBWOP: And of course, someone makes a bigger, better case than me, and posts it before me. I didn't even see the "town spam" from zephirrd when I looked through his filters.
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 24 2012 00:12 GMT
#1058
Kurumi: What makes you so very certain that 1) Zephirrd is town, and 2) The VT lazer is in scum hands? Did I miss something where someone claimed to have been hit by it? Does Memetoss' case not make enough sense to you with regards to zeph?
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 24 2012 01:06 GMT
#1067
In the games, if a pokemon was confused, it had a chance (not sure if 50-50) to either have the attack go off, or hit itself.
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 24 2012 18:40 GMT
#1179
Posting from phone. Glad I checked the thread early. Hopeless looks like the switch. Here's to killing scum.
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 27 2012 19:10 GMT
#1406
Whelp. As it turns out, MLG weekend + TI2 Weekend plus lots of procrastinated homework means one inactive Bio. Combine that with a general "woe is me" about my reads in general makes it hard to put forth the effort. Well, here we go again.

My 2 choices are misder or VE. Misder for his active lurking + the play around the time of yesterday's lynch.

VE, because the case by HiroPro
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On August 27 2012 09:03 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 07:34 Mementoss wrote:
On August 27 2012 07:31 HiroPro wrote:
hm, wiggles sounds legitimately annoyed. Can't decide whether to kill biosc or misder, drrrr.

##Unvote


What are your thoughts on VE /dirkzor


I haven't really read much since Toad died, so fresh look and all lol.

Dirkzor I think is town. His early play I think was mostly just because of how much pressure he was under from BC and I think he's actually trying to contribute.

I think VE is scum now for a couple of reasons.

First, the thing with grush still strikes me as really uncharacteristic of town VE. VE is someone who throws out policy lynches as town, but it's almost always "if we have no strong scum reads, we should lynch a lurker". For him to push a policy lynch on a person for their play in other games is just mind-boggling. VE has always emphasized that there is no such thing as an "useless townie" because they're still a member of town to count against the mafia wincon, yet now his views have suddenly flipped. If you look at the LVI postgame (the last game with VE and grush in it), there's nothing to suggest that VE was unduly mad. Yes, I know he made some comment pregame about how grush would likely just lurk and troll, but at least before VE pushed the policy lynch, grush had seemed ok in activity and was at least responding to others.

Next looking at the whole Wiggles-BC feud: Beforehand VE had said that he thought Wiggles was scum. But then when the cases come out, literally the only thing VE has to say about those two cases is a mild dislike of one of BC's points. Otherwise he just says afterward " BC died trying to get Wiggles lynched" and "Then he's absent for half of today, only to build a case against one of town's stronger scumhunters and disappear again.". That doesn't look like VE analyzing someone's play and reaching a conclusion based on that. It looks like him making a preconceived judgement and fitting what happens around it.

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On August 23 2012 17:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Why does BC keep referencing Bugs' post as if Bugs is accusing Wiggles? He's said it twice I think now, and I don't think Bugs was accusing Wiggles at all.


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On August 23 2012 18:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
But it won't be - Bugs is alive to say "no guy, I think Wiggles is town (as my post indicates), LTR"

That's my point - it won't be Bugs' fault at all.


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On August 24 2012 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
What in the...was that shot not claimed AGAIN? Scum must really be getting desperate.

Was that a blue flip? It looked like it, but everything has been colored blue so I wanted to make sure...

I'm down with a Wiggles lynch guys. BC died trying to get Wiggles lynched, and I think we should oblige him.

##Vote: Wiggles


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On August 24 2012 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 24 2012 02:16 Kurumi wrote:
On August 24 2012 02:11 grush57 wrote:
On August 24 2012 02:09 Kurumi wrote:
On August 24 2012 02:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
What in the...was that shot not claimed AGAIN? Scum must really be getting desperate.

Was that a blue flip? It looked like it, but everything has been colored blue so I wanted to make sure...

I'm down with a Wiggles lynch guys. BC died trying to get Wiggles lynched, and I think we should oblige him.

##Vote: Wiggles

Nah, Wiggles attacking bc is a null tell in my opinion. Look at the timing of this hit, if they wanted to kill bc they would do it faster, it smells like a frame to me.

Yeah I considered that aswell, but wiggles has been scummy HMMMMMMMMMMMM idk man

also biosc where u been at man!

Wiggles scummy ? He seems the only person devoting his time to this game. Some guys dont have enough time , yadda yadda. Although his theory on the lynch sounds wrong... Well I think Dirk is scum based on one post... I did not vote him because of my doubts (his points about viscera were good) it is hard to reread the thread on the phone, eh.


Is this a joke? First of all, Wiggles posted like ONE time D1, and that was to vote me and DISAPPEAR. He had NO inclination to affect the lynch yesterday and, as Bugs and Wiggles will tell you, scum seemed to be perfectly content with the way the wagons were going too.

Then he's absent for half of today, only to build a case against one of town's stronger scumhunters and disappear again.

In what way is Wiggles "devoting his time to this game"?

This is strikingly similar to his play in LV - vote, disappear, return to build a case, vote, disappear. I'm voting Mr.Wiggles because I think he's scum. I hope you guys will join me.


Then, the amount of times VE promises thoughts and reads but then when he comes back has pretty much nothing useful to say.

I know someone is going to bring up the shot done by Toad, but frankly I think it could just be separation. Toad knew it was only 0.5 KP and not going to pose a threat to VE actually dying.

Maybe I'm being an idiot right now in ignoring BC lol, but it's not like I've been doing anything this game for some time now.

##Vote VisceraEyes


Makes sense to me.

And the more I go through cases and stuff, the less confident I am about them. Great.

Tell you what. I'm going to go sheep the veteran flipped townie. My reads are shit and I know it.

##Vote Wiggles
Bio - Breaking it down
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 27 2012 19:12 GMT
#1409
Pretty much, yeah.
Bio - Breaking it down
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 29 2012 16:35 GMT
#1669
On August 30 2012 01:30 Drazerk wrote:
Ok you all can't possibly be playing guild wars / WoW so talk!

I prefer grush over Bio but that is probably because grush is more in your face annoying rather than keeping under the radar



Ok. I've woken up, had my coffee, and have nothing to do today. Lets talk. Quack.
Bio - Breaking it down
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 29 2012 16:46 GMT
#1671
On August 30 2012 01:41 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 01:35 BioSC wrote:
On August 30 2012 01:30 Drazerk wrote:
Ok you all can't possibly be playing guild wars / WoW so talk!

I prefer grush over Bio but that is probably because grush is more in your face annoying rather than keeping under the radar



Ok. I've woken up, had my coffee, and have nothing to do today. Lets talk. Quack.

who have you targeted with your ability


all 3 nights or just tonight?
Bio - Breaking it down
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 29 2012 18:26 GMT
#1687
N1: VE
N2: Austin
N3: Jingle
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 29 2012 18:45 GMT
#1689
Fuck it. I've got nothing to hide. I'm a medic. I protected those 3 people. If I would have protected a hit, I would have announced it in thread (according to my PM) I also leave a .5 KP perm shield on those I protect, until its busted.
Bio - Breaking it down
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 30 2012 17:39 GMT
#1768
Sorry... I'm not lying. I did protect those guys, and nowhere does it say in my PM that people are notified of recieving a shield. I honestly just picked people who were making sense at the time to protect.

I didn't go awol either... Just my sleeping schedule is all fucked up atm.
Bio - Breaking it down
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 30 2012 17:58 GMT
#1774
On August 31 2012 02:49 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 02:39 BioSC wrote:
Sorry... I'm not lying. I did protect those guys, and nowhere does it say in my PM that people are notified of recieving a shield. I honestly just picked people who were making sense at the time to protect.

I didn't go awol either... Just my sleeping schedule is all fucked up atm.

Isn't Jinglehell saying he was notified he received a shield though?

Also, no check Night 1, Draitini Night 2, Pikachu Night 3.


Just stating what I know
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 30 2012 18:50 GMT
#1786
On August 31 2012 03:27 austinmcc wrote:
Yeah, I'm not overly worried about being vanillafied.

I'm Dratini/Dragonair. I'm a hider. On N1 I don't think Zelblade was around to hide. On N2 I hid behind HiroPro. Since evolving, I can no longer hide every night. At the moment, I don't think I want to reveal the restriction(s) on when I can and can't?

That's why I don't think I'd have a shield if BioSC protected me, because any action taken on me should have failed. I don't know if the person taking the action gets notified of this or not, however. If BioSC did get a notification, then the fact that he didn't reveal that I was untargettable that night is one reason I'm leaning town on him.

Was unable to hide last night. Took .25 kp damage. Depending on how hard Zelblade protects, that could indicate that I was double stacked, or it could mean I just took one big shot from someone, perhaps wheover is ivysaur or had the "electrocuted" kill flavor.

I wanted to see what night Wiggles received a check on me. I still think he's scum. But I don't know that he's lying about his ability, as if he just receives a random check then perhaps it wouldn't have failed N2 because it wasn't targeted at me.


I received no notification that my action failed.
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 30 2012 20:32 GMT
#1798
Getting my vote in.

##Vote Wiggles
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 31 2012 15:05 GMT
#1844
Suddenly I have ability envy...
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BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 31 2012 19:09 GMT
#1853
I created the slowpoke role, Hiro claimed the pokemon, but not the role as of yet. I can confirm that it doesn't have any KP, though. (unless of course its scum)
Bio - Breaking it down
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
August 31 2012 21:08 GMT
#1890
Good luck town, sorry I wasn't very useful this game ='(
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