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sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
August 12 2012 01:07 GMT
#441
current votecount for reference

Custos Luna(3): Mordanis, DYH, risk.nuke
prplhz(3): CL, Keirathi, sciberbia

not voted: HiroPro, Shiaopi, prplhz, slOosh

Every vote really matters here. I urge everyone to strongly consider voting prplhz over CL. I don't think any other lynch is really on the table at this point.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
August 12 2012 01:08 GMT
#442
On August 12 2012 10:04 Keirathi wrote:
Vote count?

lol that was quite the ninja
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
August 12 2012 02:00 GMT
#443
Unfortunately I can only post the flip later as I'm not on my laptop
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
August 12 2012 02:02 GMT
#444
On August 12 2012 11:00 Bluelightz wrote:
Unfortunately I can only post the flip later as I'm not on my laptop

You still have 13 hours!
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
August 12 2012 02:05 GMT
#445
On August 12 2012 11:02 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 11:00 Bluelightz wrote:
Unfortunately I can only post the flip later as I'm not on my laptop

You still have 13 hours!

PM me both prplhz's and CL's roles. Then I will make the deadline post for you depending on who gets lynched. I'll even write the flavor for you :p

In all seriousness, are you saying the flip will be more than 13 hours from now? Do you know approximately when it will be?
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 03:21:11
August 12 2012 03:02 GMT
#446
False alarm.... Oops
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
August 12 2012 03:06 GMT
#447
On August 12 2012 12:02 Bluelightz wrote:
Deadline done. Prplhz and CL lynched flip a bit later,


Wait wtf. BLUELIGHTZ THE DEADLINE IS NOT FOR 12 MORE HOURS. DON'T FLIP PEOPLE YET
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
August 12 2012 03:11 GMT
#448
BlueLightz! Don't flip! Deadline not over yet!!

thought i should make this more clear..
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
August 12 2012 03:12 GMT
#449
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
August 12 2012 03:13 GMT
#450
UMM...... Okay then continue D:, imma check later on my laptop then ;3
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
August 12 2012 03:18 GMT
#451
OH LOL I THOUGHT THE DEADLINE WAS NOW OOPS
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Custos Luna
Profile Joined August 2012
United States96 Posts
August 12 2012 03:25 GMT
#452
Wat a baddie
We are the guardians of the moon, foes to the sun. Embrace the heresy.
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
August 12 2012 03:41 GMT
#453
Blue, would you mind updating the OP?
Guts? Determination? $5?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
August 12 2012 03:47 GMT
#454
On August 12 2012 08:54 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 08:18 sciberbia wrote:
@Keirathi
Is there any reason you didn't include HiroPro on this list, or are you still suspicious of HiroPro? I ask because I'm very interested in a possible HiroPro lynch today.

Mostly because in my thorough read-through of filters during the night phase, I started thinking that there's a much higher chance of Hiro being scum if prplhz is. If prplhz is scum, then the few actual things that Hiro did on d1 point towards him being scum as well. But why would scum Hiro feel the need to change his vote from prplhz to Forumite when town was basically evenly split?

Not that its impossible for Hiro to be scum without prpl, but it makes much more sense to me to lynch prplhz first.

I have a huge problem with this - it's essentially lynching for information. We either lynch HiroPro because he looks scummy regardless of prplhz or we lynch prplhz because he looks scummy regardless of HiroPro. Suggesting a pair of lynches like that in a specific order is extremely dangerous.

On August 12 2012 08:18 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 05:30 slOosh wrote:
sciberbia could I get your thoughts on CL soon? I'm wondering if this is indeed a misdirection away from Mordanis onto an easy lynch or if CL was caught doing something scummy and is backpedalling.

To everyone who defended Mordanis on meta, could you please re-clarify how he is town?

@slOosh
I just gave my thoughts on CL, and I think now would be a good time for you to clearly state your opinion of him.

I've looked over your post and reread filters and what is still left unaddressed with CL is this - he has dropped his HiroPro read in favor of the prplhz lynch, which was one of the big town cards in my mind. Words are easy - votes and lynches are where you put your money where your mouth is. He hasn't done this.

I find HiroPro more scummier than CL and would vote him but I do not wish to cause an accidental double lynch. I'll be on for another hour or two if people are willing to swap from CL to HiroPro. If people are opposed or we don't have enough time I'm fine with lurker lynching prplhz.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
August 12 2012 03:47 GMT
#455
@DYH
Have you thought any more about prplhz and CL? How likely do you think each of them is to be scum? Will you be leaving your vote on CL or are you open to switching?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
August 12 2012 03:54 GMT
#456
On August 11 2012 01:01 sciberbia wrote:
Anyway, I didn't get to as much filter reading last night as I would have liked, and I really don't know who I'd most like to lynch today. I agree that HiroPro's vote switch was suspicious, but it probably means nothing is prplhz is town, and possibly means everything if prplhz is scum, so I'm not sure what to make of the situation, as I am pretty null on prplhz right now.
On August 12 2012 08:59 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 08:54 Keirathi wrote:
On August 12 2012 08:18 sciberbia wrote:
@Keirathi
Is there any reason you didn't include HiroPro on this list, or are you still suspicious of HiroPro? I ask because I'm very interested in a possible HiroPro lynch today.

Mostly because in my thorough read-through of filters during the night phase, I started thinking that there's a much higher chance of Hiro being scum if prplhz is. If prplhz is scum, then the few actual things that Hiro did on d1 point towards him being scum as well. But why would scum Hiro feel the need to change his vote from prplhz to Forumite when town was basically evenly split?

Not that its impossible for Hiro to be scum without prpl, but it makes much more sense to me to lynch prplhz first.

If prplhz is town
why would scum HiroPro make a dubious voteswitch just to lynch one townie over another townie? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

If prplhz is scum
Obviously, the vote switch is very sketchy if prplhz is scum.

Do you think this reasoning is valid? Do you think it therefore makes sense to lynch prplhz before HiroPro?
On August 12 2012 09:39 sciberbia wrote:
-- I'm quite suspicious of HiroPro as well, and I think HiroPro is only likely to be scum if prplhz is as well

Wait, what!?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
August 12 2012 04:00 GMT
#457
Ah nevermind I'm tired and not as focused as I usually am.

I think HiroPro is suspicious for reasons other than his voteswitch was why the last statement looked so off.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
August 12 2012 04:07 GMT
#458
Mind sharing your other reasons?

I'm writing up my reply to your objection now.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
August 12 2012 04:08 GMT
#459
@slOosh
This is a tricky situation, but I think prplhz is the smartest lynch.

I've changed my mind slightly about the first quote. I think that if prplhz is town, HiroPro is likely town as well, since as I explain in the second quote, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for scum HiroPro to make a dubious vote switch from one townie to another.

Of course, if prplhz is scum, HiroPro's vote switch looks very suspicious, and HiroPro is likely scum as well.

What I'm saying in the third quote is that I find it unlikely that HiroPro is scum and prplhz is town. This is basically a repeat of what I've said above.

Since I think the least likely scenario is that HiroPro is scum and prplhz is town, I'm looking at these three scenarios:
HiroPro town. prplhz town.
HiroPro town. prplhz scum.
HiroPro scum. prplhz scum

So the most likely way I can see for HiroPro to be scum is if prplhz is also scum. Additionally, I think it's possible that prplhz is scum but HiroPro is town (although at this point I think I'd be very willing to lynch HiroPro tomorrow if prplhz flips scum). Therefore, to maximize our chance of hitting scum today, we should lynch prplhz.

Does that make sense to you or do you see flaws in my logic?
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
August 12 2012 04:12 GMT
#460
Nevermind, ninja'd by scib.

I believe prplhz has a good chance of flipping scum, and that has nothing to do with HiroPro.

However, if I'm right and he does flip scum, then HiroPro jumps up pretty far on my scumdar.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
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