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I like it. /in. WBG, you know I will not be replaced :D | ||
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On July 25 2012 07:21 marvellosity wrote: if you wanna hydra BH, gimme a shout I think I'll fly solo this game, thanks though. If you don't have time to /in on your own, then I'd be okay with it, but I won't need any help staying active I think <3 | ||
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On July 27 2012 01:30 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Hmmmm, I might need to sign up for this. Questions: What happens when a player wins? Say there's three players left, A, B, and C. A is allied to both B and C. B and C are not allied to each other. That means player A has 'won'. So, does he just get removed, or does he get to keep playing after he's won, or how does that work? Can I break the game by having everyone ally with everyone else at the beginning of the game and start some kind of happy commune? I like the way you're thinking. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/yMrae.jpg) That's my plan this game. | ||
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On August 03 2012 08:16 Fulblade wrote: Hydra account made This is me (Fulla) and Zelblade /in /in... and.. ? Also, you should have gone for Zella :D | ||
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On August 04 2012 00:28 Palmar wrote: /in do I need to read the rules? It's a pretty standard setup; lynch scum, win. No need to fret about whether it's utterly totally different than every other mafia game  | ||
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I didn't play AoE. I don't know what I'm talking about. Also if you turn me down, I get it. I'm just sad. Sorry for the triple post, got to go, I don't post much anyways, there's no secret guy, but there is, and I know, and you know, and this should have told you but it didn't... | ||
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I don't see any real benefit to a no-lynch. It makes sense to use the lynch to stop the strongest players in terms of night (armies, etc) since all the votes can get behind that, but even if we don't, it's almost always a good idea to use the lynch. | ||
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Also meditteranean is for losers, and i'm not a loser. This is a unique and fun game, and you're gonna walk down the middle of the road like that? way to be l4m3 | ||
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On August 11 2012 08:01 EchelonTee wrote: Why infer and speculate when you can read my post to clearly see my intentions? You make it seem like I am trying to pull a fast one, when I clearly say in my post why I consider a land/sea map beneficial both to the general public, and to myself. I am not "most likely" posturing for an advantage, I am posturing for an advantage, but hope that others can see how it would benefit them as well. I feel like this game will play out like "Phantom" in SC2. One random dude will remain hidden for a while and then BOOM, we all dead. Or, one dude will openly push his objectives in the thread and try to spin it so it looks like it's good for every player. Well, not every player is playing Saracens. I don't think you were being deceptive, but I see no reason to vote for a map that favors any nation but my own and that of my allies. This much seems clear to me. | ||
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Now, I don't think Tunkeg is canny enough to pull that off, but it's a possibility, and he's setting up for it, so I might as well undermine him. As Kanye would say, no one man should have all that power. | ||
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... each of whom thinks they're working in a 3 or 4 man group, but are all actually being left out except for a chosen few. You just want lots of influence if you're gonna hang out asking for mass PMs and not sending them out. | ||
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all I'm saying is a guy who holds onto his PM can't be trusted. A guy who wants to recieve lots of PMs could easily be just chillin and wanting a strong alliance, or he could ALSO BE ACTIVELY TRYING TO PREVENT OTHER ONES FROM BEING FORMED. If everyone PMs you, you can PM like the last guy and then there's no cross communication (between all these people who PMed you). You have control, and not only will you have a good alliance, you also make it so there won't be others. It's easy to say "oh I'm only PMing with 1 guy or 0 guys" in the thread but then bam alliance time is over and you'r ethe only one with a good one cause everyone else is unrecprocated. It's obvious that what you're doing is indistinguishable from anyone's point of view from shutting down other alliances. Send your damn PM like a man | ||
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On August 12 2012 00:57 rastaban wrote: Mt choices are in, and I took [1][1] cant let any other greedy pigs get it!  I actually went with [19][19], safest picks imo | ||
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That's all it's for. We're ALL the informed minorities, and we're all uninformed majorities relative to each other. The lynch isn't about scumhunting, it's about "people your faction can't kill at night" hunting. We don't even have alliances yet, what do you think we should discuss? This isn't "scum vs town", the fact that it's quiet in the thread isn't a problem at all. | ||
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You can't even trust anyone you've used your sole PM on, or has PMed you, since for all you know they're jerking you around. And you certainly can't trust Tunkeg. | ||
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On August 13 2012 05:34 EchelonTee wrote: My opinion is that if Blazinghand wasn't in a power alliance, I would be disappointed. So would I. My highest win chance is in a large alliance. Everyone's trying for a powerful alliance, I assume, and anyone who thinks or tells you otherwise is yanking your chain. | ||
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On August 13 2012 05:36 Tunkeg wrote: And if he is in a poweralliance you wouldn't be interested in having him lynched to weaken that alliance? If anyone is in a power alliance I'm not in, I'm interested in lynching them. It doesn't matter who they are. | ||
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This whole idea of "reputations" is BS. You get a strong group by demonstrating your value. I've played AoE before, and I have an idea of what units are good. I posted that in the thread, hoping to attract PMs and hoping that whoever I PMed would think me valuable and not double-cross me. Now, why would you play the "nobody likes me" card? Because you clearly want to APPEAR that you're in a weak group. Maybe that's because you are, in fact, going to be in a weak group. Maybe nobody PMed you, and the guy you PMed told you to screw off. But I don't think that's the case. I think you've been active in the thread and naturally attracted PMs. What I'm interested in seeing is what happens once the alliance phase begins and people have actual teams, because that's when the real game starts. Maybe then I'll be in a strong alliance, or maybe I'll be in a weak one, or even alone if I'm screwed over. I'd like to think I can make some sort of case that I'm in a weak alliance, but saying "wahh nobody likes me" is not a case for you being in a weak alliance. There aren't even alliances yet. In any case, I don't see any reason to talk with you any more. If you think MrZ, ET, and I are all out to get you, that's fine. I think you're just trying to look bad so you don't get lynched. | ||
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On August 13 2012 06:19 Tunkeg wrote: Also all of you who haven't posted at all, what the fuck is up with that? I know you are just bowing down to your überlords and accepting their notion that there is nothing to discuss at the moment. This while they sit around laughing at how easy they are getting away with their plots and schemes. Get into the thread and start playing, don't just sit around and let yourself be outplayed! People who haven't posted could easily be outplaying you or me or ET... there are PMs you now. | ||
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On August 13 2012 06:34 Tunkeg wrote: Sure they can. But my point is that the players that haven't posted should start posting. Why | ||
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How bout you? | ||
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But things change MrZ. I couldn't wait for you forever. I had to go find my own happiness. I'm sorry. I wish things were different. I really do.  | ||
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You really want us to believe that both of you weren't moving heaven and earth to get a great alliance? Yeah right you care about mafia. I literally don't believe anyone who tries to feed me this crapgage (crap garbage) including tunkeg and bill murray. You guys aren't fooling anyone least of all me. | ||
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I wish this was a normal game so it was a scum tell but clearly its a "risen is afraid of the truth" tell | ||
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I think that's the big difference here between some guys like BM / some lurkers and Tunkeg. Tunkeg has done an incredible amount of complaining in thread, but he's also been active as hell. Don't you believe for one second that Tunkeg ISN'T in a strong alliance. I think that he's feeling the pressure, and now that he has his alliance QT, he's called out his alliance-buddies to come and bus him. How interesting how many people are willing to prod him but not vote him? I suppose everyone saw this coming a few days away, but Tunkeg is a threat. He's a deceptive mofo and needs to not be alive. I don't know who's who in terms of alliances yet, but I do know a dangerous guy who's setting up for a long game when I see one. Tunkeg has been jerking us around all game. ##vote: Tunkeg If there was any equivalent of scum in this game, it'd be him. Evaluate the situation of you and your allies (if any) and realize he's the best lynch. Of course his ally-buddies will defend him, but we are many and they are 4, tops. | ||
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The fact of the matter is, your constant complaining about your popularity since the moment the game starts isn't just annoying... it's suspicious. It's a big set-up. You think people are gonna buy it, but they won't. I don't think you're scummy, because I don't think there's scum. THIS GAME HAS NO SCUM. I do think you're trying to portray yourself falsely, and I think all you do is increase the amount of pressure on yourself with these flailings. All my motives are clear: I want to win the game, and I consider you a threat. A dangerous, deceptive threat. I'll continue to argue this so that I can get other people, who are interesting in winning for themselves, to also vote for you. I believe it is optimal play. | ||
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On August 15 2012 04:21 Tunkeg wrote: I have played with you once I think and that was in TL Mafia LI (and maybe Arkham City), so I don't know all that much about you. But why would me knowing your past be relevant to those questions. Why do you want BM lynched? Give me some reasons, don't just put it out there. Your bussing attempts here are cute | ||
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On August 15 2012 04:35 Tunkeg wrote: I think you slipped by saying you are using QT, I see no reason to use it for 2 persons. However, as you also noted it's not legal to use it for more than 2 persons. | ||
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On August 15 2012 04:45 Tunkeg wrote: So you think I am setting myself up to not be lynched by being the most active in thread? Really? I want to win this game just as much as you, and I want to be in it as long as possible. I think the only chance I have of winning this game is by going after the strongest players. It will also put me out there for you to target, but I won't play this game by lurking and not pushing what I think is best for me. That's funny because I'm pretty sure that all the pretending you're not in a strong alliance was an attempt to NOT get targeted, but hey. Anyone who's in a really strong alliance doesn't care about the day phase anyways, since they'll just be zerging someone at night and trying to dodge the lynch during the day-- so you respond by playing actively and complaining about how you're all alone, to separate yourself from your allies. Keep up the good work. Tunkeg Marvelbabbyyy clearly allies | ||
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so just dismiss the idea out of your mind | ||
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1) BH and Tunkeg are driving a shitty bus: ok, Tunkeg is in a power alliance because any alliance with BH is power alliance. Lynch Tunkeg 2) BH and Tunkeg are not driving a shitty bus: ok, BH is right, lynch Tunkeg ez | ||
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It's the perfect way to call my so-called "bluff" | ||
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On August 15 2012 05:24 Tunkeg wrote: Yeah, I understand thats the impression you got from me, and so be it. If the rest of the thread feels the same way and equally believes me to be a threat I'll get lynched. But your reasons for wanting to lynch me are full of contradictions all over the place. You want to lynch me because I am strong, weak, deceiving, easy to figure out, in a powerfull alliance, not in a powerfull alliance... I say you should be considered as a lynch candidate because it is very very likely that you are in a strong alliance, period. If people don't get my logic I deserve to be lynched. You just quote random stuff I say and say "look he contradicts himself" when you clearly are just bad or trying to be bad in terms of understanding what i'm saying at least when I called you out for bag logic you owned up to it. damn dude. | ||
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I'm willing to entertain a lynch of a lurker on the grounds it's likely to hit someone in a strong alliance. | ||
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Read the damn night rules | ||
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And you really think being reknowned is how you get good alliances? No, no more pretending please. The fact of the matter is, you are a slimy player right now. The only thing that matters is who's in big alliances. | ||
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I guess Tunkeg told you to stop lurking and come defend him is that it | ||
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On August 15 2012 05:53 Tunkeg wrote: I say you contradict youself in that post yes. And you do. because you say that a player in a strong alliance wouldn't care about the day phase. And then you resume with me obviously doing the opposite to distance myself from my allies. So in general you say a player who is in a strong alliance wouldn't bother posting during the day, but when I am posting during the day phase it is obviosuly because I know this and I am just leveling the whole thread, but then you know this and are leveling me again. It is such a weak and shitty arguement, and contradicting itself, YES! You are like one of those morons who think shouting louder in an arguements will help them win the arguement regardless of what they are saying. You can CALL me a moron, but my arguments stand for themselves, and your equivocations and fallacies are so transparent as to seem fake. There's a REASON people think you're faking your argument with me, and perhaps some critical self-examination is in order. Let me make things absolutely clear re: what's happening right now: 1) players in strong alliances are lurking 2) some players in strong alliances, and some players in weak alliances, are talking If you have multiple allies, then #1 is probably a pretty decent play. But if all your buddies are doing it, someone should at least do #2, right? Alternatively, you're Tunkeg and have been trying to get town-cred by calling blazing out long before alliances even began to get formed, because you're mad about... I don't actually know what you're mad about, it makes no sense. So basically you're in a strong alliance. My goals for today: Lynch someone who is in strong alliance chains, like Tunkeg, or a lurker. Other goals: make tunkeg stop talking lol | ||
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On August 15 2012 05:58 Tunkeg wrote: And we both are doing what you think is the exact same thing. WoW you must think we are the biggest morons in the world. But then we aren't because we are smart and tricky. You are something out of the ordinary. You don't think being reknowned makes it easier to get into an alliance? Are you for real? Of course the only thing that matters is who is in big alliances, but I am saying it is more likely that you are in one then me. I have said this before and I will say it again. After the fucking game is over we can ask the players of this game who they would rather team up with just to prove my point. You argument: "Blazinghand is more famous than me blah blah" My argument: all the stuff you've been saying and doing all game I think it's pretty clear what's going on here, and you calling yourself a moron is like wut Look, your so-called "case" against me (one behind which you still haven't voted, because you don't want it to look like OMGUS) is based just literally on the fact that I'm Blazinghand. You've got some horrible misanalysises of some of my posts, but basically that's it. Mine is based on stern logic and your actions this game. That's all. You're playing like a guy who REALLY REALLY wants to appearto be in a weak alliance. Which is how most people feel, but you're hamming it up so hard, it's obvious what you're covering up several allies. I bet they're all shitting themselves about how much exposure you've drawn. Maybe like Marv they plan on supporting you. Maybe they'll bus you. But they'll all be weaker once you're dead, and the goal of the lynch is to deal with the strongest alliance in the game. I'm here to hunt, not base things on weird vendettas against well-liked players or whatever. | ||
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On August 15 2012 06:08 Tunkeg wrote: I am not calling you a moron. I am comparing you to one. ಠ_ಠ | ||
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Uh yeah obviously I'm in a good alliance, I'm a good player of this game, whether you compare me to a moron or not. I doubt I'm in the strongest one, but I daresay I played pretty well prior to D1. I put in some serious work rather than whining in the thread. Why, are you still sticking to your "I'm in a shit alliance" story? | ||
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On August 15 2012 06:26 Tunkeg wrote: Anyways I am going to bed now. So now you can fire up your propaganda machine BH, since I won't be around to correct all your faulty logic. LOL if my logic were really faulty people will point it out without your help. The sad truth is that it is in fact your logic that is faulty, and intentionally so. The name-calling is no good. Come, friends, Tunkeg is clearly in a strong alliance, and he's also not on your team (probably), so why not kill him? If you can make a good argument that some lurker is better, go ahead, but honestly this seems pretty open and shut to me. | ||
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On August 15 2012 06:28 Tunkeg wrote: I don't think I have mentioned anything about my alliances since day one, when I didn't receive a pm before I sent out mine and went to bed. But you have a strange way of reading my post, so you might have interpid me that way. Dude you're constantly saying you're an unpopular player, and that all the popular players have good alliances. Are you seriously saying you haven't said anything about your own alliances when that's like all you talk about? And you CLAIM you didn't recieve a PM, but I don't believe you, not one bit. | ||
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On August 15 2012 06:27 ItsMarvelBabyyy wrote: oh, you were both trying to use logic? :OOOO Incoming bus on Tunkeg + attack on BH in 3, 2, 1.... | ||
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Depending on who dies today and tonight, that could easily change. That being said, I'm a mafia regular. I have friends etc who will probably look my way. I'm a charismatic guy, and well-liked. I'm popular with the ladies and basically people want to be me. I make a lot of money and have a cute girlfriend. The point is, I'm not jerking you guys around, and honestly I don't think I'd be able to. Anyone who plays with me regularly knows I'm really bad at lying and playing scum. Astonishingly bad. Like, I can't coach newbie scum games because that's how bad I am. So I'm being honest, and I don't think I'm in the strongest alliance. I think that town will probably lynch me tomorrow after we lynch Tunkeg, but that doesn't bother me too much-- I want to help out my buddies as much as possible, since if they win, I win. And right now, that means attacking during the day whoever is stronger than me. That's Tunkeg. Maybe you don't like my style and my openness, but I guarantee you 100% if I weren't pressuring and talking I'd be lynched already. Most of you aren't in Tunkeg's group with s0lstice and Marvel. I want you to think to yourself about lynching Tunkeg. He's two-faced, he's been talking out both sides of his mouth and lying. I'm an honest guy, and I've stated my motives plainly. Do you really think Tunkeg has 0-1 allies? There's probably only a couple people in this game like that, and honestly Tunkeg isn't one of them. Bill Murray might be, and Sinensis MIGHT be, but not Tunkeg. Look at the posting as the alliance phase draws to a close. Most of us have ~2 allies (since on average you'll be PMing with 2 people), and a few have 0-1 allies and a few have 3 I suppose, lined up. Tunkeg has stopped flailing around and asking for PMs. he's hasn't tried to make an alliance in-thread. He's calmly arguing with me and Sent about Vikings. That's it. These actions are not motivated by a guy who is in a small alliance. The motives for acting like this is that you're comfortable. A Tunkeg who was really cornered would have been flailing for an alliance, any alliance, at the end of the phase. But he wasn't. Of course, once the day starts Tunkeg immediately tries to "scumhunt" or what have you, and to his credit this is somewhat convincing at first. But the more he argues, the more it becomes clear this is someone who is lying, who has something to hide, and who isn't doing a terribly good job of it. Tunkeg needs to be lynched. S0lstice may not be his ally-buddy, he might just be a sucker-- we'll have to see. | ||
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I'm pretty sure Tunkeg is screwing with us. All joking aside, there's no way he'd be so calm at the end of the alliance phase given how freaked-out he was earlier unless he was seriously feeling pretty comfortable with his setup. This isn't even a meta thing, this is just comparing "Tunkeg during start of PMs phase" to "Tunkeg at the end of alliance phase" and there's a huge difference. He's pulling all the strings around here | ||
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In any case, stop drawing a distinction where there's no difference. There's like no reason to break an alliance except in the late late game, so now that the alliances are set in stone your allies are basically trustworthy. Tunkeg's swarm of allies is easily stronger than my 2 allies, but once he's dead, they won't be. I want him dead, and honestly, unless you think your group is stronger than his, you want him dead to. Vote in your own self-interest. Vote tunkeg. | ||
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# of allies is so important it's unreal. Any AoK battle is basically determined by who has more stuff barring big compositional or terrain elements, which there won't be much of. Tunkeg has more allies than me, so I can't kill him at night. My only hope is to get him lynched. It's probably your only hope, too. | ||
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The reason I'm trying to lynch Tunkeg is I literally don't think I'll be able to kill him with my allies. And do you think anyone will trust each other enough to gang up on him with people not in their alliance? It'd be a fun trick to convince other people to attack Tunkeg then bail and let them get owned. | ||
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The Lynch is much safer, and is what should be used against big alliances. attacks are for fighting people weaker than you. | ||
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From your point of view, there isn't a huge amount of difference, except that Tunkeg is likely in a larger alliance, as you mentioned, and that's more dangerous. Even if you lynch him tonight, his buddies might be together and decently strong, but not overwhelming. Alliance size is the most important factor, and so you should lynch out of the largest alliance first. Also, Tunkeg has been playing to avoid suspicion and appear weak. And for what it's worth, he's done a better job of it than me, though I haven't really been trying to appear weak. But my #1 goal is to get him lynched, and to get him lynched before his enormous alliance can take night actions, against you or against me or against anyone else. He's a tricky dude, and honestly people seem to actually believe his tripe (well, some people. could just be his ally-buddies so far). I think that without me to push him, he won't get lynched. That's basically it. You can say what you want about me, but say this: if I have one skill, it's getting money. And if I have two skills, it's getting money and tunneling someone. Look at this push on Tunkeg and tell me that you can get him lynched without my fanaticism. Tell me that honestly, and if you really think that, AND you want to lynch the less tricky guy in the smaller alliance first, I think you need to play more intelligently. Tunkeg is the real threat here. | ||
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the fact of the matter is, this game probably has 2-3 strong alliances and some stragglers. Tunkeg's is the strongest and we can't afford not to lynch him first. | ||
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The fact of the matter is, most people in this game have 2 allies, even if everyone in the thread likes to go around pretending they're alone or have 1 ally or whatever. That's just the way the game works out with the PM setup. I'm certainly in a comfortable alliance, but all you guys voting me need to realize: most people in this game have about the same number of allies as me. Just because I'm willing to say it doesn't mean I'm a mastermind of some huge alliance: that's not me, that's tunkeg. My goal is to lynch someone who I'm absolutely sure I can't just kill tonight. And that's tunkeg. I honestly think his group will send out a couple of attacks, clean up a couple more dudes overnight, and then bam we're down to like 9 players, 4 of whom are Tunkeg & co. And if there's infighting amongst the smaller factions, and someone kilsl someone else? then it's 8 players, 4 of whom are Tunkeg and co. All I'm saying is, lynch tunkeg first. You want to lynch me tomorrow? fine! but for your own good, and the good of my allies and myself, let's kill tunkeg now. | ||
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If you do Nothing and the other team does a Combined Attack, you lose an ally or you die. Game over. If you do nothing and the other team does nothing, nothing happens. If you do a Combined Attack and the other team does a Combined attack, 2 players die, it's even. If you do a Combined Attack and the other team does nothing, you kill an enemy. It's impossible to be safe in this game. This isn't Black Forest where you can mass troops on your "border ally". This is a game where people WILL die to combined assaults, and you can't do anything to stop it. The only thing you can do is play smart. | ||
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On August 16 2012 04:49 Sir Posts A Lot wrote: So Tunkeg's alliance is already completely outed. If this is the case then "our" alliance is completely harmless right? You can vote us off any time you want any day if we get "powerful and destroy everything in our path using the power of the Norse God Tunkeg!" like you say. If this is the case, then there is little sense in lynching someone belonging to a "weak" (is already outed) alliance on D1. So, by your own statements we can conclude you should be lynched instead ...there are 5 votes against me you know. man how srs are we in this game | ||
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On August 16 2012 04:52 Sir Posts A Lot wrote: Really? I can only count 4 votes :/ Also, Prisoner's Dilemma is nothing new and innovating. You can try all you can to use it on your favor but you can't. Just like if this were a game of Chicken. It's not a prisoner's dillemma, it's a "hey it's always better to attack" dilemma, and it FAVORS GROUPS WITH MORE PEOPLE. Groups like tunkeg's group. Why isn't tunkeg afraid the night phase? Why? Because he's at home there. He just wants to get there alive so he can feast on your soul. | ||
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Blazinghand
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They are vulnerable ANYWAYS. If you have 1 army, and you're attacked by 2 armies, even if you fend off the first one, the second one shows up and you AUTO LOSE. Read the OP. There's NO DOWNSIDE to attacking other than potentially losing your army during the attack. | ||
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In fact, attacking with half your troops is a shit idea cause it's just throwing away half your troops agaisnt anyone who full defends, and throwing away the other half if anyone full attacks you. | ||
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You're just getting nervous because I'm revealing the truth, the truth about this game and about night actionss. the truth we need to kill tunkeg | ||
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On August 16 2012 05:31 Sir Posts A Lot wrote: The point is that I actually agree with you, 4-way alliances are very dangerous and we need to kill them. The thing is that you are shifting your argument to make it seem you are right about killing Tunkeg which is why I disagree with you. Anyways, you are more likely in a larger alliance than Tunkeg (and one that's not "outed" as you say it), which is why I think you should be lynched instead. That's my final answer. If someone can show me conclusive proof someone else is in a 4-man alliance then I'll be happy to go vote them. Tunkeg "not being desperate last day" and "making it seem he didn't got a PM" aren't conclusive evidence he's in a 4-man alliance, not even a 3-man one (remember he acted all "everybody hates me" before alliances were even made). But that's hte point! Remember how he acted all "everybody hates me"? REMEMBER THAT? this was at the start of the PM phase. By the end of the alliance phase HE WAS TOTALLY CHILL. That's a MASSIVE CHANGE. MASSIVE. He was arguing about other crap instead of PMs. It wasn't on his mind, he wasn't freaking out, he was fine. What else coupld possibly explain his huge shift in attitude? He obviously developed a PM network and relaxed. | ||
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On August 16 2012 05:44 MrZentor wrote: Meh, I thought Sinensis would say something. Anyways, sorry BH, but you are way more of a threat then Tunkeg. ##Unvote ##Vote: Blazinghand why | ||
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On August 16 2012 05:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I think Tunkeg is allied with some of the lurkers in this thread. One - it would make sense by his logic since vets would seek each other out so he'd go and ally with the lesser known players, and this gem: List of lurkers in the thread at that point in time. Why would vets want to work with lesser known players and not other vets? Why is everyone just making random unsubstantiated claims what's going on in this game | ||
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Blazinghand
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On August 16 2012 05:51 Sir Posts A Lot wrote: Okay then, Tunkeg is allied with just 1 other guy then (he would still be chill in that case, specially if nobody else PMed him previously) Tunkeg->2 man alliance Blazinghand->3 man alliance Is this right then? Why can't Tunkeg be allied with just 1 guy? I don't want to lynch a guy allied to just 1 guy if it means guys in stronger alliances are running free. Okay, maybe, but that guy probably has a buddy! that he PMed! And bam instantly you have a 3-person cricular alliance assuming the guy coordinates it. It's SO EASY to make a 2-person alliance in this game, since everyone has a PM. And honestly, if Tunkeg were in a 1-person alliance he'd still show SOME effort to try to draw PMs, not LITERALLY NO EFFORT. He was in the thread and just talking about other shit, after the huge whirlwind of whining earlyer. do you really think he's got 1 ally only? It's certainly possible. And again, I might have 2 allies, but that's not even the strongest way of running things. but I think that tunkeg's actions indicate that he's part of a strong alliance. I think he's been dishonest, and anyone who's afraid of a guy who has 2 allies is jumping to kill off a weaker group instead of a stronger one! There's a better lynch today. | ||
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not that I dont' like the vote on tunkeg though | ||
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On August 16 2012 06:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm sorry you come out of the blue and vote with no support/attack of any actual player, and then complain that the people voting on Tunkeg have no support/attack on other players? That doesn't add up at all. It doesn't matter, nobody has any reasoning for any of their votes, yourself included, because nobody seems to care who gets lynched. There are 4 groups of people in here: 1) people who are in tunkeg's camp and voting me and make up crap reasons 2) people who are in my camp and voting tunkeg and make up crap reasons 3) people who have crap reasons and are voting for either tunkeg or me 4) other Look, if you're not in either camp, just think about it LOGICALLY. Tunkeg is the bigger threat. His allies are obfuscating the truth about how the night phase works. Lynch me tomorrow. Please lynch me tomorrow and not today, and lynch tunkeg now. I want my allies to have a chance to win, and if we don't lynch tunkeg, he'll be unstoppable. | ||
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It's infinitely preferable to just lynching me. I approve, but only if it's impossible to only lynch tunkeg. | ||
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On August 16 2012 06:18 Blazinghand wrote: It's infinitely preferable to just lynching me. I approve, but only if it's impossible to only lynch tunkeg. just in case Tunkeg has a confederate standing by for a last minute unvote of him and revote of me, could you possibly hang out at the deadline, rasta, and make sure? | ||
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On August 16 2012 06:11 rastaban wrote: Hmmm BH, I get the feeling your allies are stacking up in your camp. Look at the lack of reasoning for those votes. Sir Posts A Lot, seems the most clear minded person in this thread. Unlike you and tunkeng he actually is using valid points. ##Vote: Blazinghand As an aside, Rasta is like 75% certain to be one of tunkeg's allies. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On August 16 2012 06:25 rastaban wrote: yeah, I will be watching how things go down. I find this acceptable. however, I would also like it if someone besides rastaban who has a vote on me and plans on lynching tunkeg could also be standing by. I say this because I suspect most of the votes against me are Tunkeg supporters, and there's a strong chance rastaban is one of them, especially given his initial extremely shoddy justification for his vote on me. I want tunkeg lynched today. | ||
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OR AM I???? | ||
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I don't suppose anyone is around who wants to listen to a final hour plea on why we need to kill tunkeg and not me this turn? | ||
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So, if you're reading this, and you're not my buddy: I hereby declare you a HAT-STITCHER of the highest degree, with everything that entails. May your alliances crumble, your walls falter, your men desert, and your crops rot in their fields! May the wrath of a thousand angry Marauders concuss you! May your wives weep and your children perish! May your pant zipper get caught and embarrassingly require you to walk around with your fly unzipped! A thousand curses on all who oppose me! Let them suffer! Let them perish! Let their suffering be exquisite! Thanks to WBG, austimcc, and hassybaby for making this all possible. | ||
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And really, huge shoutout to both Sent and Marv/Risen for some clutch, clutch plays after I died. | ||
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On August 26 2012 17:42 gonzaw wrote: Also marv/Risen ,y u fuck with us so much?  We wasted our PM to ally you and that's how you treated us? Oh, heh, our 4-P alliance was set up early in the PM phase. Marv/Risen PMed me, I PMed Sent, and Atki PMed Marv/Risen. We got Sent to PM Atki, and went around the circle both ways to confirm nobody was lying. When we got the PM from ET, we decided the best thing to do was just say "yeah sorry bro doosk" | ||
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On August 27 2012 08:42 Tunkeg wrote: The lynching not so much if you ask me, people not discussing anything allways leads "town" to lose. The players who were without an alliance this game played a pretty poor game I think, handing the win over to the winning team. By n3 the big alliances were down to 2 and 1, and the only reason for the winning team to be 2 was my alliance stacking BH at day and Atki at night. FWIW the D1 lynch was AMAZING for "town" if you define town as the 5 players not allied with either you or me. I couldn't imagine a better result than hitting both of the 4-man alliances at once for the third of the players who weren't in the two 4-mans. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On August 27 2012 09:03 Tunkeg wrote: Day 1 was poor as hell from "town", the only reason it worked out for town was because I happend to be in an alliance, you said it yourself in pm after, the reason you went after me was because I was an easy target, not because you were convinced I was strong, you dominated me in the arguements and manipulated the neutrals with ease. In other words they got lucky. If we played this game 100 times I would be unallied more often than not. If I weren't allied I would have been lynched alone and you guys would have won it even easier. I still don't buy your "nobody likes me therefore nobody allies me" thing. Only one person event sent me a PM dude | ||
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On August 27 2012 09:31 Tunkeg wrote: Me and my allies got one pm each, meaning if I had not set up the chain as I did we probably would have gotten none. I still believe the more reknowned players will be more likely to be in a good alliance, and they are also more likely to be able to manipulate the rest. Its all relative though, with a different group of players others might be consider stronger. Me and my allies got one pm each, meaning if I had not set up the chain as I did, looping it around, we'd be in the same boat. | ||
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