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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On August 11 2012 23:19 VisceraEyes wrote: Aside from easy WIFOM re: my likelihood of being GF if I were scum, I wouldn't mind a check on me either. hmm that's true. would be almost as worthless as Probe's check on Wiggles in LV. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On August 11 2012 15:20 Hier wrote: Looking through CD's filter, I found the last line in this post amusing. It's like a whole loaf of bread. Hier I'm going to ask you to spell this out for me since I've already made a mistake in thinking I knew what we were talking about. Are you suggesting that CD scumslipped here? | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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BroodKingEXE
United States829 Posts
Question do you still think Talis is scum? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On August 12 2012 00:53 Hopeless1der wrote: Would you care to elaborate at all MrZentor? Can you address the GF theory that Talis has laid out and why you disagree with him? Well we had a red check on Talis and CD was in favor of a Zeph lynch that ended up lynching a mafia instead of just voting Talis, which would have been the easiest way to "store" his vote no matter of talis alignment. Give me a single reason to think CD is mafia given the situation right now. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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BroodKingEXE
United States829 Posts
On August 12 2012 03:34 Toadesstern wrote: yeah but DTs are kind of a high priority target for mafias so who cares right now. I doubt they'll kill a DT due to the whole fake claim mixup. Too much doubt in peoples minds. Did you mason anyone? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On August 12 2012 03:08 Toadesstern wrote: Well we had a red check on Talis and CD was in favor of a Zeph lynch that ended up lynching a mafia instead of just voting Talis, which would have been the easiest way to "store" his vote no matter of talis alignment. Give me a single reason to think CD is mafia given the situation right now. What are you talking about? Cd wanted a talis lynch and I pushed the zeph lynch ... | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On August 12 2012 04:26 marvellosity wrote: What are you talking about? Cd wanted a talis lynch and I pushed the zeph lynch ... talis has already explained it somewhere, do I really need to type out everything twice?  | ||
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BroodKingEXE
United States829 Posts
On August 12 2012 04:26 marvellosity wrote: What are you talking about? Cd wanted a talis lynch and I pushed the zeph lynch ... I can think of reasons why a Talis lynch would've been a better than a zeph lynch. But I definitely want to hear from CD about why he pushed Talis in his own words. | ||
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
On August 12 2012 04:34 Toadesstern wrote: talis has already explained it somewhere, do I really need to type out everything twice? No marv is right - CD initially posted that he wanted me lynched and zephirdd shot, or, failing a shot, lynched the next day. In response to lazer as regards the timing of this whole affair: First, I don't think your plan was to lynch zeph yesterday. It was to lynch me, then zeph on D4. That's what CD posted. But it was pretty clearly better to do it the other way around from town's pov, which you guys maybe didn't anticipate. Regardless, a fake DT claim will lose steam after 3 nights. If you get a red check N1, waiting til D4 to bring it up seems strange to me. Especially since CD was going about pushing zephirdd in the worst way possible as a townie, almost assuring that no one would pay attention (contrast the puppet-master routine with what sinensis was doing in the beginning in attacking zephirdd). Another factor influencing the timing of the bus and bringing the plan out was that I was starting to gain ground, and VE was starting to lose it. After I posted the most damning case in this thread on VE, the next things that happen are that lazer makes a giant post discrediting me, and then sinensis posts his Big Reveal on zephirdd, completely sidetracking things. _______________ If people still don't buy it: Why does sinensis check lazermonkey N2? His stated reason is that he wanted to check someone that people thought was townie in order to bolster his credibility when he made his redcheck claim. That. Does. Not. Make. Sense. Contrast that with how xsebt played his N1 redcheck. Instead, he checked a mason, thinking that he was allowed to talk to masons (instead he ended up breaking the rules). Upon getting the greencheck on toad, he then sent toad the information. that's a perfectly logical way to play out an N2 check with a red N1 check in the bag. Not only do you get another check, but you also eliminate scum possibilities from the masons. The point I'm trying to make is that the results of N2 check don't actually have any bearing on the "credibility" of the claiming DT. A real DT just makes another check on someone suspicious. If he gets two reds, then fine. He posts that. The credibility is tested by the lynch results. Why does a real DT think the way sinensis has posted? "People aren't going to believe my red check if I don't have a green check on someone people think is town too" What? Furthermore, no one was talking about lazer as scum, but no one was really talking about him as town either (aside from me, that I can recall). He was flying under the radar. If those truly were CD's motivations, why didn't he pick strongandbig? SnB was also suspicious of zephirdd, if I remember right. And everyone publicly thought he was town, evidenced by the fact that toad and I directed medic protects at him. None of it adds up. | ||
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
On August 12 2012 03:53 BroodKingEXE wrote: I doubt they'll kill a DT due to the whole fake claim mixup. Too much doubt in peoples minds. Did you mason anyone? They almost have to try. If both DTs survive, then either xsebt has a real check or sinensis has a fake check. The other is roleblocked. This puts scum in a bit of a bind. The only real check that scum can fake at this point is on other members of their team, meaning that once the gig is up, they're all done, which dissuades them from RBing xsebt. On the other hand, they can't risk xsebt actually getting a real check, on, say, VE. It should also be noted that VE has already claimed his character name in the thread (Lane Pryce). If for some reason I'm wrong about VE (I'm not) then he'd be the only townie on whom a fake check can be made. | ||
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
Reasons: -CD read NMM2. townies, especially new players (which is what he claims to be, btw, meaning that he's lying) do not read past games. scum don't either. No one really does. Everyone just references games they played in themselves. Therefore CD is someone who was in that game. Looking through the player list, that pretty much means he's either bluelightz or sinensis, and his writing style matches sinensis'. Same kind of sentence structure, etc. Also there's the part where zeph called him sinensis and zeph knew he was getting bussed. (Combine that with sinensis' "one step towards the bus stop for you..." that Hier pointed out and it seems clear that scum's goal is not only to win, but to do so by humiliating the town so that they can point out later how obvious the whole thing was and how everyone was so bad they missed it.) | ||
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
On August 11 2012 23:25 marvellosity wrote: hmm that's true. would be almost as worthless as Probe's check on Wiggles in LV. Not entirely true. sinensis is almost certainly GF. But if VE is off the table, why not hassybaby? Hassy's not going to be scum. I'm pretty sure jingle is town but it would hurt to confirm him either. | ||
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
On August 11 2012 05:44 CountDropula wrote: The pressing nature of the game... Means my plans must be revealed Before the time is right. What do you think about that, lazermonkey? :-) And to repost this from Hier because it needs to be seen because holy shit lol: On August 09 2012 10:49 CountDropula wrote: Well, preparing my play has been... Consuming much of my energy, and it has been so long in the making that it simply must be done justice! Apparently the actors refuse to wear anything but red... Ah yes, there is the matter of my vote... ##Vote: Zephirdd One step towards a win for the audience, One step towards the bus stop for you... Seriously, what townie DT puts that line in there? There are tons of idioms in the english language that express the idea of something coming to the end or being finished. But he goes with "One step towards the bus stop for you..." with the reference I guess to zephirdd getting on bus out of town or something? It doesn't even make sense with his puppeteer act, if you still believe CD is a new eccentric player and not sinensis. Then you say "One step towards the curtain closing..." or something. "One step towards your swan song..." etc. And it doesn't fit at all with "One step towards a win for the audience" semantically, despite the phrasing indicating that the two lines are a couplet. Plus the suggestive ellipsis. I mean I don't know how to spell it out any more and maybe I don't need to. Just look at that lol. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On August 12 2012 06:14 talismania wrote: Fun quotes from sinensis where he actually tells the truth but no one notices: What do you think about that, lazermonkey? :-) And to repost this from Hier because it needs to be seen because holy shit lol: Seriously, what townie DT puts that line in there? There are tons of idioms in the english language that express the idea of something coming to the end or being finished. But he goes with "One step towards the bus stop for you..." with the reference I guess to zephirdd getting on bus out of town or something? It doesn't even make sense with his puppeteer act, if you still believe CD is a new eccentric player and not sinensis. Then you say "One step towards the curtain closing..." or something. "One step towards your swan song..." etc. And it doesn't fit at all with "One step towards a win for the audience" semantically, despite the phrasing indicating that the two lines are a couplet. Plus the suggestive ellipsis. I mean I don't know how to spell it out any more and maybe I don't need to. Just look at that lol. Lol, talis. Just Lol. | ||
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