Newbie Mini Mafia XXI - Page 39

Hopeless1der

United States5836 Posts

July 20 2012 00:41 GMT

#761

Previously, it was thought (at least I thought) that ANYONE who is roleblocked during the night will be made aware the following day, regardless of if they had an ability.

YourHarry

United States1152 Posts

July 20 2012 00:45 GMT

#762

Mufaa, Hopeless answer your question. I was not trying to rolehunt. I believed, and I outlined this belief earlier, that even vanillas receive "roleblocked" notifications.

My only reservation against Jingle's case is that no one has counter-claimed Jailkeeper...

If you are the jailkeeper (other than Jingle), please counter-claim.

JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

July 20 2012 00:50 GMT

#763

If you've got so much evidence against me and Calgar, try presenting it instead of dropping hints in hopes that someone else will do your dirty work? Let's face it, you're just mad that me and Calgar didn't get each other lynched.

YourHarry

United States1152 Posts

July 20 2012 00:54 GMT

#764

I am re-reading everything now, Jingle. Could you please answer me this. Did you notice calgar's breadcrumb post?

JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

July 20 2012 00:55 GMT

#765

No, I didn't. Were you planning on presenting a case, or just trying to instigate chaos by dropping hints subtle enough to fall out of a stealth bomber?

YourHarry

United States1152 Posts

July 20 2012 00:59 GMT

#766

I think I have a case. I am planning to present it, after I read everything. I am on page 11.

JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

July 20 2012 01:05 GMT

#767

Anyone else expecting some grandiose epic thriller that makes the craziest WIFOM anyone else (like me) has used so far look mundane?

Probulous

Australia3894 Posts

July 20 2012 01:08 GMT

#768

On July 20 2012 09:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
Previously, it was thought (at least I thought) that ANYONE who is roleblocked during the night will be made aware the following day, regardless of if they had an ability.

This is indeed in the normal practice. I can send out PMs if this is what you wish. I fucked up, so if this the method that you guys want to use then I am happy to oblige. No-one however, seems to have said they want this.

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

July 20 2012 01:42 GMT

#769

Catching up before I go to bed for the night.

Good to see suspicion drifting off Calgar - vocal townies fighting vocal townies is a bad situation all around. Calgar, fantastic job defending yourself.

YourHarry has been at the top of my lynch list since midway through D1, and he's been trying frantically to point any suspicion he can at Jingle/Calgar over the last few pages. He has not vindicated himself in my eyes, and I believe my earlier suspicions still hold valid. (I'll be sure to read his case and defense tomorrow to make sure. )

So for the reasons posted below:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=351398&currentpage=20#384
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=351398&currentpage=29#568

##Vote YourHarry

Probulous

Australia3894 Posts

July 20 2012 01:47 GMT

#770

General Reminder - Blazinghand is available for town coaching. He's feeling lonely right now

JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

July 20 2012 01:47 GMT

#771

Hey, Hapa. Credit where due, I also kept the situation tenable for communication to cool things down instead of going ballistic. Stroke my ego here a little

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

July 20 2012 02:00 GMT

#772

On July 20 2012 10:47 JingleHell wrote:
Hey, Hapa. Credit where due, I also kept the situation tenable for communication to cool things down instead of going ballistic. Stroke my ego here a little

^5

I'll admit, I never would have seen you switching votes of Calgar a couple of hours ago. Good jobs all around.

In addition, the Calgar case proved to be quite informative - YourHarry's reactions/bandwagon on Calgar pretty much convinced me he was scum. It's also interesting that the other player attracting suspicion (iamperfection) joined the bandwagon on Calgar as well.

JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

July 20 2012 02:08 GMT

#773

Yeah, at least we got that out of it. It's like YourHarry decided to play a 100% textbook scum. Maybe he got tired of hiding? Or maybe he was hoping his meta would protect him?

iamperfection

United States9645 Posts

July 20 2012 02:46 GMT

#774

Alright i know you guys think im scummy and i do this in order to help you. My vote of calgar was that of self preservation i read jingles view as correct at the time and i thought their would be split between jingle and calgar. I voted for calgar because i read jingle as fully town once he revealed his bread crumb. Now that jingle is basically mod confirmed i will do what i can to help the town even though i think anything i will say will be basically read as scummy.

##Vote Yourharry

Ill be back tommorow morning after both scum and town tear me a new one but ill do what i can.

On July 19 2012 05:32 YourHarry wrote:

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On July 19 2012 04:50 iamperfection wrote:

On July 19 2012 04:44 Hapahauli wrote:

On July 19 2012 04:32 iamperfection wrote:

On July 19 2012 04:19 Hapahauli wrote:
I replied to your previous post here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=351398&currentpage=29#577

Also, I haven't commented at all on your vote on Obvious.660. It could be seen as a bandwagon, but I don't find it suspicious in itself. As far as your posting goes, I suggest looking at the filters of Calgar and Mufaa, who've pointed suspicion at you.

So you want me to throw out fingers of suspicon that really would serve no purpose other than to be used against me later. What purpose would fos serve the game will change in a few hours and as town the very little information we get come from the result of the night actions. Why be pigenholed now during the night. Its the same reason calgar is upset that jinglehell is trying to make a final be all decesion on who vig should kill.

Also you didnt answer the question. my position on obvious was by far the worse i can do nothing to change on what i posted on day 1. Why wouldnt i just make a throwaway vote and semi bandwagon later on sombody else with less votes if i was a lurking mafia?

I'm assuming the "throw out FOS" bit is in regards to my linked reply. I'm saying to take a strong stance against someone. You're wishy-washy and simply throw around suspicion without committing anywhere. This is a mafia-trait.

TBH, I don't even understand your question. Its not like you voted for Obvious - you voted for him when his fate was still in question. How does your vote for Obvious vindicate you?

Because your thinking it in too simple of terms. If im mafia i know that obvious is town i wasent wishy washy at when i voted for obvious so according to your own logic my action at that time was more likely town. Take it further. When obvious is killed its natural to look at who caused the votes to happen how did it benfit me going later into the game how is it going to help the mafia win. Sure i could get the mis lynch on day one but im not set up in benfitual way at all on day 2. Ive been saying all along the goal is to win not looking good with logic or survivng lynches the goal is to make the town win. If im mafia my position makes no sense.

Imagine a player who was wishy-wash about a player and then voted him, who then flipped town. The player would be very suspicious (LOL, this is actually exactly how I acted on D1, but I have an excuse

) ..So the other side of the coin is that, scums would act decisive and firm in their opinion - because typically that's how townies act and they want to fit in.

Also, you are saying everyone who didn't act wishy washy when they voted Obvious.660 is town? I think that's pretty much everyone except me.

On July 18 2012 10:38 YourHarry wrote:

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You can say this for everyone who have voted for Obvious.660.

From scum's perspective, it is a choice between not wanting to look scummy by avoiding to contribute to a mislynch a player they know is town vs. putting their voting power in effect in order to favor a mislynch over a scum lynch.

He has try to discount my logic several times and continue to keep me a candidate for a mis lynch. I know it can be stated that this is pure wifom and we could just be trying to spread confusion but here it is decide for yourselves.

I agree with the cases and accept the attack that i will probally recieve for latching on. I know my self preservation comment will be attacked but in all honesty thats what im doing.

I will be back in the morning and ill try to answer any questions that you may have for me.

iamperfection

United States9645 Posts

July 20 2012 02:47 GMT

#775

[g] Time and vote count if you would be so kind [/g]

good night all

iamperfection

United States9645 Posts

July 20 2012 02:48 GMT

#776

ebwop for fail Time and vote count if you would be so kind

JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

July 20 2012 02:48 GMT

#777

The tag you wanted is

[green][b] Insert Text Here [/b][/green]

iamperfection

United States9645 Posts

July 20 2012 02:49 GMT

#778

it should be g instead of green imo

iamperfection

United States9645 Posts

July 20 2012 02:49 GMT

#779

On July 20 2012 11:48 JingleHell wrote:
The tag you wanted is

[green][b] Insert Text Here [/b][/green]

thanks i got it

JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

July 20 2012 02:49 GMT

#780

Yeah, I saw too late... can't exactly edit it out.

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