Newbie Mini Mafia XXI - Page 28

On July 18 2012 11:16 JingleHell wrote:
Calgar, would you feel comfortable suggesting a vigi shot on him if we came to a consensus that if it flipped him town, you were next in line for a lynch?

On July 18 2012 11:45 tube wrote:

Alright, this sounds suspicious, why do you need to make such a proposition?
To me, it's pretty ridiculous that anyone should have to bet their life on a read that still has some chance of being wrong.

I hope you're just trying to incite a reaction because this seems like something scum would try to setup.

On July 18 2012 12:01 tube wrote:
You're trying to convince vigi not to shoot perfection because it would be too easy, but we have no better targets and Vigi might not live until night 2 (or exist, for that matter). The more of us alive earlier, the better. Your suggestion that we wait an entire 3 days to lynch our most prime suspect almost sounds like you're trying to protect a red role or something so that he can use it tonight at least.

On July 18 2012 12:13 tube wrote:
You just stated all the consequences of vigi shooting a townie, which are inherent and already known to everyone.
However, the much more likely scenario is that he actually is mafia and should therefore be taken out as early as possible.

If you disagree with all of Mufaa's, Hapa's, and calgar's cases against him, then you should explain where the reasonable doubt comes from, because "it's too easy" doesn't really convince anyone.

On July 18 2012 12:35 tube wrote:
I have no idea what you're talking about with this "me too" attitude.

And are you trying to say it's too easy or it's too quiet? Make up your mind. When someone makes few posts, and those few posts are also very scummy, that doesn't somehow give him a probable chance of being innocent.

On July 18 2012 12:39 JingleHell wrote:


I'm saying too easy and too quiet are the same general thing here. He's an easy target. "It's quiet, too quiet" *Sudden huge influx of random plot villain A shows up to murder every fucking thing in sight*.

When something looks too simple, too easy, or too obvious, sometimes it really is. As was obviously the case with... well, Obvious.

But hey, let's go back to your logic. When someone posts next to nothing useful, and it's mostly obviously scummy, lynch that mofo. Who's cool with lynching tube on his own logic?

On July 18 2012 12:41 JingleHell wrote:
Everyone agreed? A handful of people said that. Now you're diving onboard with them, hence a "me too attitude".

And by the way, I'm not sure you answered what I pointed out. How would it make sense, if you were town and I was scum, for me to put a huge spotlight on myself to change which person was set to be mislynched? That would be utterly idiotic.

On July 18 2012 12:47 tube wrote:

Too easy and too quiet are definitely not the same thing. If the few posts he made didn't scream scum, then you would only be saying "too quiet", which doesn't implicate him in anything.

How was that the case with Obvious? He made a good number of posts until his summary, and retrospectively some of them were helping town and some just looked plain scummy. Perfection, on the other hand, has only made posts that have not helped town in any way.

So now all my posts are both useless and scummy? Mind going into further detail?

On July 18 2012 12:48 tube wrote:

Also, you're doing that thing again where you put words in people's mouths. First of all, I didn't even suggest that situation, the issue of you being scummy is separate from the one where perfection should be vig'd.
Also, like I said, if that was the situation, then it WOULD make sense if perfection IS scum, because then it wouldn't be a mislynch on him.

On July 18 2012 12:53 JingleHell wrote:


I'm very specifically talking about "too easy" and "too quiet" as the movie/book lines they get used as, a cliched precursor to pure trouble. That's as a comparison to the plausible situation I see with someone asking for a vigi shot against perfection. He's such a simple, obvious sort of target that it makes SENSE to suggest it, and if there's a scum motive, it kills two birds with one stone.

Obvious was easy to see as scum, and got lynched, and it turned out to have been too easy. Too good to be true.

And saying the majority of your posts are useless and easily seen as scummy? Let's go back to yesterday, the posting you did before your sudden change of heart, and a bit of your posting since the attention was lifted off of you.

You've been highly active, but not in a serious sort of way. Oh, wait, let me guess, we still don't have enough information, right? Because yesterday, that's why you weren't saying anything useful. Not enough information. Well now you want Iamperfection to die based on NO DAMN INFORMATION.

And you're STILL ignoring my question about why your theoretical scum Jingle diverts attention off your theoretical townie you, and onto the (now) confirmed townie Obvious, when I could have just sat back and watched the chaos with MUCH less attention on me.