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On July 17 2012 05:39 tube wrote:
the points against me are that im being an active lurker and thats supposedly our best lynch
how am i supposed to respond to that other than "i just felt like posting" because i didnt want to be inactive
from my point of view im not attracting suspicion to begin with
Did you actually bother to read any of the guides, the rules, or anything at all about how this game works before signing up?
What matters is a combination of intuition and persuasion. Discussion, analysis, and reading between the lines.
The scum have information, we don't. We talk, we have conversations, we get people's stories, we look for things that don't make sense, we make guesses.
In other words, the town speculates, and hopes for the best. The best is more likely if we have a lot of actual discussion (one line posts telling everybody you don't agree with them without saying why or what you believe isn't discussion).
People who post things that only contribute clutter are bad for the town. "I don't agree." as the paraphrased sum of your post is a great example of only contributing clutter.
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On July 17 2012 05:44 tube wrote:
and yeah in every accusation against other people so far you can tell that people are just trying to make something out of nothing which is why i dont agree with anyone yet
also there should be pressure on the people who haven't even posted yet to say something:
drwiggl3s
fulla
mufaa
evulrabbitz
thats 4 people any of which could be mafia just sitting there watching you guys gang up on the "active lurker"
And if you flip town, I'll consider them as plausible targets. If you flip scum, I'll consider them confirmed townie. Deal?
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On July 17 2012 05:39 tube wrote:
the points against me are that im being an active lurker and thats supposedly our best lynch
how am i supposed to respond to that other than "i just felt like posting" because i didnt want to be inactive
from my point of view im not attracting suspicion to begin with
Hmm.. Usually Mafia feel the need to post and "fit in" as they have an inherit sense of guilt. Do you think making non-productive posts makes you look more town? Seems like it has the opposite effect.
I'd suggest you share some of your reads with us. What you think about other players etc. If you are town and really do want to get the heat of you.. If you're mafia than keep doing what your doing 
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On July 17 2012 05:45 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 05:44 tube wrote:
and yeah in every accusation against other people so far you can tell that people are just trying to make something out of nothing which is why i dont agree with anyone yet
also there should be pressure on the people who haven't even posted yet to say something:
drwiggl3s
fulla
mufaa
evulrabbitz
thats 4 people any of which could be mafia just sitting there watching you guys gang up on the "active lurker" And if you flip town, I'll consider them as plausible targets. If you flip scum, I'll consider them confirmed townie. Deal?
Let's not pre-determine our lynches less than 24 hours into day 1 Jingle. While tube is at the top of my list right now (even moreso after chainsaw defending himself with a list of lurkers), we don't know if he'll be the scummiest player by the D1 lynch deadline.
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On July 17 2012 05:49 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 05:45 JingleHell wrote:On July 17 2012 05:44 tube wrote:
and yeah in every accusation against other people so far you can tell that people are just trying to make something out of nothing which is why i dont agree with anyone yet
also there should be pressure on the people who haven't even posted yet to say something:
drwiggl3s
fulla
mufaa
evulrabbitz
thats 4 people any of which could be mafia just sitting there watching you guys gang up on the "active lurker" And if you flip town, I'll consider them as plausible targets. If you flip scum, I'll consider them confirmed townie. Deal? Let's not pre-determine our lynches less than 24 hours into day 1 Jingle. While tube is at the top of my list right now (even moreso after chainsaw defending himself with a list of lurkers), we don't know if he'll be the scummiest player by the D1 lynch deadline.
I was actually fishing for a reaction more substantial than his current posting, thanks for interfering.
And you're one to talk, remember XX N1 where you were like 72 hours away from deadline planning to lynch me until DT confirmed me on D2?
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lmao i seriously cant believe posting my beliefs in one-liners is considered a scumslip
whats the day 1 success rate on that one, hapa?
also i did say what i believed multiple times now, and i haven't started any arguments against people because like i said there's too little to go off on day 1
and i like how you're suggesting i should be dead regardless over the inactives
drwiggl3s your first post is you jumping on the (completely pointless) JingleHell mini-bandwagon against me
and then going on to say that not posting content-heavily means im trying to "fit in" which i wouldnt otherwise try to do as town
if thats your first and only read so far the only person i have a read on is you
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On July 17 2012 05:51 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 05:49 Hapahauli wrote:On July 17 2012 05:45 JingleHell wrote:On July 17 2012 05:44 tube wrote:
and yeah in every accusation against other people so far you can tell that people are just trying to make something out of nothing which is why i dont agree with anyone yet
also there should be pressure on the people who haven't even posted yet to say something:
drwiggl3s
fulla
mufaa
evulrabbitz
thats 4 people any of which could be mafia just sitting there watching you guys gang up on the "active lurker" And if you flip town, I'll consider them as plausible targets. If you flip scum, I'll consider them confirmed townie. Deal? Let's not pre-determine our lynches less than 24 hours into day 1 Jingle. While tube is at the top of my list right now (even moreso after chainsaw defending himself with a list of lurkers), we don't know if he'll be the scummiest player by the D1 lynch deadline. I was actually fishing for a reaction more substantial than his current posting, thanks for interfering. And you're one to talk, remember XX N1 where you were like 72 hours away from deadline planning to lynch me until DT confirmed me on D2?
Of course I remember - it was a huge mistake, and I don't want to see it repeated.
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Hmmm?
I just want to help the town -- and if your town, I don't want you to be lynched. But I just said you weren't making it very clear to us with your posting that you were town. Instead it looked like you were just crapping up the thread. So I suggested make better posts, discuss your reads with us. You know.. be town?
And your reaction to that is FOS me? lol
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On July 17 2012 05:54 tube wrote:
lmao i seriously cant believe posting my beliefs in one-liners is considered a scumslip
whats the day 1 success rate on that one, hapa?
also i did say what i believed multiple times now, and i haven't started any arguments against people because like i said there's too little to go off on day 1
When do you expect us to get sufficient information to lynch people if we don't have active, meaningful discussions?
Low-content posts are so useful for scum because they give the appearance of activity without having large amounts of content that could potentially be used in a case against you.
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i looked up chainsaw defense and how did i attack anyone by posting a list of lurkers
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On July 17 2012 05:55 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 05:51 JingleHell wrote:On July 17 2012 05:49 Hapahauli wrote:On July 17 2012 05:45 JingleHell wrote:On July 17 2012 05:44 tube wrote:
and yeah in every accusation against other people so far you can tell that people are just trying to make something out of nothing which is why i dont agree with anyone yet
also there should be pressure on the people who haven't even posted yet to say something:
drwiggl3s
fulla
mufaa
evulrabbitz
thats 4 people any of which could be mafia just sitting there watching you guys gang up on the "active lurker" And if you flip town, I'll consider them as plausible targets. If you flip scum, I'll consider them confirmed townie. Deal? Let's not pre-determine our lynches less than 24 hours into day 1 Jingle. While tube is at the top of my list right now (even moreso after chainsaw defending himself with a list of lurkers), we don't know if he'll be the scummiest player by the D1 lynch deadline. I was actually fishing for a reaction more substantial than his current posting, thanks for interfering. And you're one to talk, remember XX N1 where you were like 72 hours away from deadline planning to lynch me until DT confirmed me on D2? Of course I remember - it was a huge mistake, and I don't want to see it repeated.
With tube, I'm thinking the same way I was about Lazer. If they flip green, at least we don't have them hurting the town with their attitude.
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On July 17 2012 05:58 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 05:55 Hapahauli wrote:On July 17 2012 05:51 JingleHell wrote:On July 17 2012 05:49 Hapahauli wrote:On July 17 2012 05:45 JingleHell wrote:On July 17 2012 05:44 tube wrote:
and yeah in every accusation against other people so far you can tell that people are just trying to make something out of nothing which is why i dont agree with anyone yet
also there should be pressure on the people who haven't even posted yet to say something:
drwiggl3s
fulla
mufaa
evulrabbitz
thats 4 people any of which could be mafia just sitting there watching you guys gang up on the "active lurker" And if you flip town, I'll consider them as plausible targets. If you flip scum, I'll consider them confirmed townie. Deal? Let's not pre-determine our lynches less than 24 hours into day 1 Jingle. While tube is at the top of my list right now (even moreso after chainsaw defending himself with a list of lurkers), we don't know if he'll be the scummiest player by the D1 lynch deadline. I was actually fishing for a reaction more substantial than his current posting, thanks for interfering. And you're one to talk, remember XX N1 where you were like 72 hours away from deadline planning to lynch me until DT confirmed me on D2? Of course I remember - it was a huge mistake, and I don't want to see it repeated. With tube, I'm thinking the same way I was about Lazer. If they flip green, at least we don't have them hurting the town with their attitude.
Is this.. a scum slip? You should always go for mafia. Lynching someone for being bad-town is a mistake. This is a noobie game after all.
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wait what?
how is it mathematically sound to just lynch someone because you think their "active lurking" is an attitude that hurts town (explain how i am doing this)
there are 12 people and you want to use the first lynch to get rid of me for sure on a petty basis
honestly mafia is laughing at you
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ebwop after my 4th line: even if im town
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On July 17 2012 06:05 tube wrote:
honestly mafia is laughing at you
What makes you think that he isn't Mafia himself?
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ebwop:
laughing hard at your ebwop
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On July 17 2012 05:58 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 05:55 Hapahauli wrote:On July 17 2012 05:51 JingleHell wrote:On July 17 2012 05:49 Hapahauli wrote:On July 17 2012 05:45 JingleHell wrote:On July 17 2012 05:44 tube wrote:
and yeah in every accusation against other people so far you can tell that people are just trying to make something out of nothing which is why i dont agree with anyone yet
also there should be pressure on the people who haven't even posted yet to say something:
drwiggl3s
fulla
mufaa
evulrabbitz
thats 4 people any of which could be mafia just sitting there watching you guys gang up on the "active lurker" And if you flip town, I'll consider them as plausible targets. If you flip scum, I'll consider them confirmed townie. Deal? Let's not pre-determine our lynches less than 24 hours into day 1 Jingle. While tube is at the top of my list right now (even moreso after chainsaw defending himself with a list of lurkers), we don't know if he'll be the scummiest player by the D1 lynch deadline. I was actually fishing for a reaction more substantial than his current posting, thanks for interfering. And you're one to talk, remember XX N1 where you were like 72 hours away from deadline planning to lynch me until DT confirmed me on D2? Of course I remember - it was a huge mistake, and I don't want to see it repeated. With tube, I'm thinking the same way I was about Lazer. If they flip green, at least we don't have them hurting the town with their attitude. 
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On July 17 2012 06:06 drwiggl3s wrote:What makes you think that he isn't Mafia himself?
i think hes just a really aggressive (too much so, to be honest) player im not convinced in anyway that he's either alignment
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On July 17 2012 06:02 drwiggl3s wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 05:58 JingleHell wrote:On July 17 2012 05:55 Hapahauli wrote:On July 17 2012 05:51 JingleHell wrote:On July 17 2012 05:49 Hapahauli wrote:On July 17 2012 05:45 JingleHell wrote:On July 17 2012 05:44 tube wrote:
and yeah in every accusation against other people so far you can tell that people are just trying to make something out of nothing which is why i dont agree with anyone yet
also there should be pressure on the people who haven't even posted yet to say something:
drwiggl3s
fulla
mufaa
evulrabbitz
thats 4 people any of which could be mafia just sitting there watching you guys gang up on the "active lurker" And if you flip town, I'll consider them as plausible targets. If you flip scum, I'll consider them confirmed townie. Deal? Let's not pre-determine our lynches less than 24 hours into day 1 Jingle. While tube is at the top of my list right now (even moreso after chainsaw defending himself with a list of lurkers), we don't know if he'll be the scummiest player by the D1 lynch deadline. I was actually fishing for a reaction more substantial than his current posting, thanks for interfering. And you're one to talk, remember XX N1 where you were like 72 hours away from deadline planning to lynch me until DT confirmed me on D2? Of course I remember - it was a huge mistake, and I don't want to see it repeated. With tube, I'm thinking the same way I was about Lazer. If they flip green, at least we don't have them hurting the town with their attitude. Is this.. a scum slip? You should always go for mafia. Lynching someone for being bad-town is a mistake. This is a noobie game after all.
No, it's not a scum slip. It's what I said earlier, if we don't have anybody who really screams "scum" at us, we can just lynch the person who might just be actively bad town. The "noob game" excuse doesn't fly with me, we're all newbs, thus being in the game.
This game is plurality lynch. Most votes at the end of the day dies. So yes, someone who's actively not contributing can be a severe detriment. Ask Hapa about the town win in XX. Where the guy I would have lynched for being such a PITA was trying to coerce people into not voting for the guy we ended up lynching. Who flipped red and won us the game.
Actively bad town are scum's best friend. And if they make it to MYLO or LYLO, they can cause a town loss, because they look scummy.
In XVIII I won as scum because of an actively bad town player who I was able to lead a mislynch on and walk away from it because he was so scummy sounding. Scum had all 3 alive at endgame.
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