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Blazinghand
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On July 14 2012 03:25 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 03:15 Blazinghand wrote:On July 14 2012 02:48 JingleHell wrote:On July 14 2012 02:20 calgar wrote:On July 14 2012 01:34 YourHarry wrote:Can framer throw blanket over himself? Can vigilante kill himself? I was able to think of at least one situation where vigilante should kill himself  Could you enlighten me on this one? If he's unconfirmed townie with a shot left heading into MYLO day. Couldn't he just shoot the other unconfirmed townie and win, though? You could, theoretically, have nothing but unconfirmed townies going into MYLO, courtesy of WIFOM type logic, depending on how people played. Also, MYLO can occur at as many people remaining as 8 in a 12 person game, assuming all scum are still alive. Mislynch, plus NK, puts scum at half the population. That's a LOT of people and not much guaranteed info to work with. Granted, it's a non-ideal situation, and a non-ideal situation, but assuming he recognizes the situation before it happens, he'd change it from MYLO to LYLO with more information available to the town.
Ok, so let's say it's about to be MYLO. Let's say there's 5 players left, and 1 of them is scum, and it's night. Scum's gonna shoot someone and it'll be 3 town, 1 scum during the day.
In this case, the vigi COULD shoot himself during the night, and assuming his shot doesn't stack with the scum shot, there will be 2 town, 1 scum during the day, increasing town's chance of lynching scum if there are no confirmed townies.
HOWEVER....
shouldn't the vigi just shoot someone else? It creates a chance he'll shoot the last scum, and if not, it's the same thing going into the day, 2 townies, 1 scum.
This seems like it could literally only be better or the same as him shooting himself.
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Add in a breadcrumb for who you're shooting and BLAM confirmed townie: either you killed a townie and turned MYLO into LYLO, but added yourself as a confirmed townie. OR you shot scum and prevented MYLO for another whole day (and don't worry, you'll die next night. Scums hate confirmed townies at lylo)
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If the situation looks like he'd be the target of the probably mislynch, shooting himself would prove his innocence without causing a loss at mylo.
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I woke up from a dream where I got mod killed for editing a post. My god, the game is already affecting me.
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+ Show Spoiler [JieXian] +On July 12 2012 16:36 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 15:48 Speedbump wrote:
The set-up looks very interesting, especially trying to post completely in role. I would play, but the level of convoluted posting needed while on a mobile phone will leave me out.
I wouldn't mind observing or continuing a crash course in town play and mafia play. I've played one or two games online, and thousands offline. (Rough estimate)
Mayhe Newbie Mafia XXII would work better for me, unless people wouldn't mind a player not posting screens of text each day. Lol what kind of mafia have you been playing? Posting in role? Usually in-person mafia, where we get assigned a role and a character. Sometimes it's fucking silly, other times amazing. It gets much better with drinking on top. 
+ Show Spoiler [Probulous] +On July 12 2012 15:55 Probulous wrote:
Dear Mr Speedbump
Firstly congrats on being from New Zealand, you can say hi to my cousins for me.
Thank you. I would do so, but I've already joined the mass invasion expedition of Australia. XD
Secondly this is a standard setup with nothing really convoluted. The only difference is the flavour I have given the roles. You do not have to post in character. That would make little sense. Everyone playing this game will be, by definition, a newbie. As for activity, you don't have to post walls of text. In fact the best players here don't tend to do that. Rather they read and read and read and read and then post something new and insightful.
Ah, that makes sense. Hopefully I can learn from this game.
Either way, my playstyle is concise, possibly bordering on 1-2 sentence posts if tired. Hopefully it won't be held against me.
In addition there is the most awesome Blazinghand and his stupendousness VE to help you out if you feel the need. Finally the fact that you are hesitant to sign up because you are unsure of whether you can keep up, is a very good sign. Be wary, be skeptical but most of all have fun.
They sound like both scholars and fine gentlemen, if they want to help noobs like me. If I ever play against them, I might be a bit more reticient in saying so. ^^;
Hopefully the transition from in person to text-based isn't too bad.
I hope you sign up
Yours sincerely
Probulous I think I am too late. TT
Also, after a few day's absence, I have decided to be a replacement if it is allowed. I shall endeavour in keeping up with the thread. Hopefully I don't have to type anywhere near this much again on my phone. ><
/replacement
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/in as replacement. Stupid full games that I can't get into.
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Prplhz wanted to host the next newbie mini. I'm gonna pm him and see if he's still interested, otherwise I'll post a new one tomorrow.
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On July 14 2012 01:34 YourHarry wrote:Will cop's investigation be affected by the target being roleblocked? I wouldn't think so, but wanted to confirm because game flavor locks the target in a room 
No, unless the target is jailed. If this is the case, you will receive a PM stating "No Result."
Does framing take precedence over being a dumbass? I would assume so
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On page two, Probulous clarifies that roleblock takes precedence over vigilante kill here. In such scenario, does vigilante lose his ability to make his one NK?
Yes
Would vanilla townies be informed if they were roleblocked?
Yes
Can framer throw blanket over himself? Can vigilante kill himself? I was able to think of at least one situation where vigilante should kill himself
Yes and I suppose yes but I have no idea why you want to do that.
"Veterans can survive one night attack". Does this mean veteran can survive all attacks that happens in one night in which he uses his veteran power? Similarly, can medic protect a person from multiple attacks that happens in a given night?
Veteran's have a single extra life. That means if they are shot twice at night they will die. If they are shot on more than one night, they will die. Medics can only protect one person, per night.
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On July 16 2012 01:43 Speedbump wrote:+ Show Spoiler [JieXian] +On July 12 2012 16:36 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 15:48 Speedbump wrote:
The set-up looks very interesting, especially trying to post completely in role. I would play, but the level of convoluted posting needed while on a mobile phone will leave me out.
I wouldn't mind observing or continuing a crash course in town play and mafia play. I've played one or two games online, and thousands offline. (Rough estimate)
Mayhe Newbie Mafia XXII would work better for me, unless people wouldn't mind a player not posting screens of text each day. Lol what kind of mafia have you been playing? Posting in role? Usually in-person mafia, where we get assigned a role and a character. Sometimes it's fucking silly, other times amazing. It gets much better with drinking on top. On July 12 2012 15:55 Probulous wrote:
Dear Mr Speedbump
Firstly congrats on being from New Zealand, you can say hi to my cousins for me.
Thank you. I would do so, but I've already joined the mass invasion expedition of Australia. XD
Secondly this is a standard setup with nothing really convoluted. The only difference is the flavour I have given the roles. You do not have to post in character. That would make little sense. Everyone playing this game will be, by definition, a newbie. As for activity, you don't have to post walls of text. In fact the best players here don't tend to do that. Rather they read and read and read and read and then post something new and insightful.
Ah, that makes sense. Hopefully I can learn from this game.
Either way, my playstyle is concise, possibly bordering on 1-2 sentence posts if tired. Hopefully it won't be held against me.
In addition there is the most awesome Blazinghand and his stupendousness VE to help you out if you feel the need. Finally the fact that you are hesitant to sign up because you are unsure of whether you can keep up, is a very good sign. Be wary, be skeptical but most of all have fun.
They sound like both scholars and fine gentlemen, if they want to help noobs like me. If I ever play against them, I might be a bit more reticient in saying so. ^^;
Hopefully the transition from in person to text-based isn't too bad.
I hope you sign up
Yours sincerely
Probulous I think I am too late. TT Also, after a few day's absence, I have decided to be a replacement if it is allowed. I shall endeavour in keeping up with the thread. Hopefully I don't have to type anywhere near this much again on my phone. >< /replacement
This is champion, right here. Added.
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On July 16 2012 03:09 Promethelax wrote:
/in as replacement. Stupid full games that I can't get into.
and another one! Added.
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
On July 16 2012 07:14 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On page two, Probulous clarifies that roleblock takes precedence over vigilante kill here. In such scenario, does vigilante lose his ability to make his one NK? Yes
Vigis keep their bullet if they're RBed? That's how I read the question anyway, might be wrong
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On July 16 2012 07:17 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 07:14 Probulous wrote:On page two, Probulous clarifies that roleblock takes precedence over vigilante kill here. In such scenario, does vigilante lose his ability to make his one NK? Yes Vigis keep their bullet if they're RBed? That's how I read the question anyway, might be wrong
No, they lose their bullet. They have one shot and if their target is jailed, they fail. If they are roleblocked, they fail. Their shot is not refunded in any circumstance.
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
wow. harshest vig rules ever!
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
In minis and small games, the "no refunds under any circumstances" rule is pretty normal. In particular the "no refunds when shots were stacked" rule prevents the vigi from knowing exactly what happened if his target died but nobody else did (ie roleblock, medic save, a vet was shot, or mafia stacked shot with him could all explain it).
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
well I didn't see vig losing their shot if they were roleblocked yet anyway
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Probulous confused himself with the rolenames
Does framing take precedence over being a dumbass? I would assume so
A miller being framed will result in a green check from the DT
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ROFL, he he. I should read my role names more often. Thanks Acro. You da man!
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Day post going to be a little late. PMs going out now.
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