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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 17:47 GMT
#1364
S&b and risen you should be on Gonzaw... And risen keirathi was unlikely to be jailed so
If he's telling the truth about being rb'd it's logical to think it was a scum rb
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 17:54 GMT
#1366
On July 20 2012 02:48 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 02:47 Mattchew wrote:
S&b and risen you should be on Gonzaw... And risen keirathi was unlikely to be jailed so
If he's telling the truth about being rb'd it's logical to think it was a scum rb

Err what?

I never claimed that I was rb'd? :o
woops I rushed.. It is unlikely Milton was jailed* ... The post has the same message
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 18:01 GMT
#1370
I didn't say it was true I was saying if it is true it is logical that he was rb'd by scum
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 18:03 GMT
#1371
Don't be thick risen
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 18:13 GMT
#1374
Sol do you want to lynch risen or do you just want to distract the thread from the current candidates
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 18:17 GMT
#1377
On July 20 2012 03:14 Risen wrote:
##unvote
##vote gonzaw


If he's red I no longer want Matt lynched. I don't think he'd bus THIS hard. Also, I'm not being thick the message isn't the same bc you were just defending keir then swapped his name with miltons and said the message was the same. No it isn't, you're shady as fuck if Gonzaw flips green.

Do you think Milton or keir would be jailed (Aka doc protected)
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 18:20 GMT
#1382
Answer the question... Do you think at any point this game Milton or kerathi would be jailed? Cause if not the point of my post is the same.. If you believe miltons claim then you logically believe it was a scum rb
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 20:19 GMT
#1405
On July 20 2012 05:13 gonzaw wrote:


Also Mattchew, you don't need to post "what are your thoughts about my case?" 100 times, it only makes you seem like you are active when in fact you are just repeating the same thing over and over when people already fucking read your case since it was 1 post long and it's not that hard to find in your filter.

I want them to write opinions, in you know, the thread

There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 21:34 GMT
#1439
On July 20 2012 06:24 Miltonkram wrote:
Fuck it. I'm going for Mattchew.

Here's why:
- His reads haven't shifted much. I see this as scummy, not townie. I looked back and he was finding gonzaw scummy from, I believe, the middle of D2.
- His attempt to take credit for the tali lynch.
- He's avoided commenting on players outside of his tunnel-vision.

I can see scum motivation for all these things.

##Unvote
##Vote: Mattchew

A no-lynch vote... kool
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 21:45 GMT
#1465
When I flip town will you guys please please lynch gonzaw
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 21:47 GMT
#1470
On July 20 2012 06:46 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 06:45 Mattchew wrote:
When I flip town will you guys please please lynch gonzaw


This would be a good time to post who you think is my scumbuddy

I think your scum buddy is pretty easy to find if risen is actually a cop, or its risen
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 21:58 GMT
#1489
On July 20 2012 06:50 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 06:47 Mattchew wrote:
On July 20 2012 06:46 gonzaw wrote:
On July 20 2012 06:45 Mattchew wrote:
When I flip town will you guys please please lynch gonzaw


This would be a good time to post who you think is my scumbuddy

I think your scum buddy is pretty easy to find if risen is actually a cop, or its risen


Who is it? I don't see who is "pretty easy to find"
Keirathi? Dropbear? Milton?

Its called a numbers game

you die, flip scum 7-1, 7 town, 3 with risen, so therefore scum lay within 4 people, keirathi, drop, milton, scib.

scib is pretty obvious town, i shoulda known that
leaving 3 people

There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 21:58 GMT
#1491
On July 20 2012 06:57 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 06:55 sciberbia wrote:
@keirathi, @miltonkram, @risen
Are you sure you guys aren't just being influenced by gonzaw's loud defense and you just feel less guilty about mislynching mattchew?

Are you sure mattchew is actually more likely to be scum?


I haven't really found gonzaw scummy all game until today, and most of that was because of his early play after Risen claimed cop.

I did, however, think Mattchew was scummy yesterday, and nothing he did today made him look more townie.

I still think you are tied in with him too hard because he's been buddying you and copied your reads.

Wow this is so scummy
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 21:59 GMT
#1494
On July 20 2012 06:58 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 06:50 gonzaw wrote:
On July 20 2012 06:47 Mattchew wrote:
On July 20 2012 06:46 gonzaw wrote:
On July 20 2012 06:45 Mattchew wrote:
When I flip town will you guys please please lynch gonzaw


This would be a good time to post who you think is my scumbuddy

I think your scum buddy is pretty easy to find if risen is actually a cop, or its risen


Who is it? I don't see who is "pretty easy to find"
Keirathi? Dropbear? Milton?

Its called a numbers game

you die, flip scum 7-1, 7 town, 3 with risen, so therefore scum lay within 4 people, keirathi, drop, milton, scib.

scib is pretty obvious town, i shoulda known that
leaving 3 people



Risen + s&b + s0l + scib

lynch milton then keirathi then drop and gg

cant lose
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 22:01 GMT
#1501
On July 20 2012 07:00 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 06:58 Mattchew wrote:
On July 20 2012 06:50 gonzaw wrote:
On July 20 2012 06:47 Mattchew wrote:
On July 20 2012 06:46 gonzaw wrote:
On July 20 2012 06:45 Mattchew wrote:
When I flip town will you guys please please lynch gonzaw


This would be a good time to post who you think is my scumbuddy

I think your scum buddy is pretty easy to find if risen is actually a cop, or its risen


Who is it? I don't see who is "pretty easy to find"
Keirathi? Dropbear? Milton?

Its called a numbers game

you die, flip scum 7-1, 7 town, 3 with risen, so therefore scum lay within 4 people, keirathi, drop, milton, scib.

scib is pretty obvious town, i shoulda known that
leaving 3 people


Guess you should have jumped on the Keir train then. GODSPEED MATTCHEW, AND MAY THE OBS QT THREAD BE WELCOMING TO YOU. I'll be there soon, brother.


no i lynch scum, not then lynch maybes
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 20 2012 22:52 GMT
#1768
On July 21 2012 07:47 NoSmurfHere wrote:
yeah I'm going to write up a more detailed postgame soon but the gist of it is this:

scum were lazy. They had 0 presence, 0 influence, and 0 will to play. I know Mattchew didn't even want to play scum. Given that 1/3 of the scum team doesn't want to be scum and the other 2 for the most part play at about the same level, the only factor left is town.

Because scum had no influence and town had confirming power roles (2 masons + cop) AND scum chose not to RB n1, the setup was very transparent. The lack of n1 RB forced the hand of mafia and it was a poor choice. Even if they wanted to (which I doubt they did) they could not fake a town RB or jailkeeper. In addition it was a race against the clock and scum lost because they were complacent. The townies who were "confirmed" were not at all confirmed (except for sciberbia, who didn't claim) but scum didn't take advantage of this. Scum didn't take advantage of Risen flip flopping. Scum didn't take advantage of the incorrectness of everyone who was not named austinmcc.

The game wasn't won on analysis. It was merely won on luck. It could've been lost (for town) by luck just as easily. All the players must remember that.

Kudos to austinmcc and marvellosity though. I would rate austin the best player of this game given that out of 4 scum reads on d1 he caught all 3 scum within them.

I was actually busy day 1/night 1 so that sucked balls too

There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 20 2012 23:31 GMT
#1794
On July 21 2012 08:08 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 08:06 gonzaw wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:54 Risen wrote:
Whew rereading my filter I'm shocked I wasn't pushed by scum for misusing words. Bus alone wasn't going to get me lynched, but the claim and bus in combination would have gotten me lynched npnp had mattchew not tunneled gonzaw so hard. There were people (townies) in thread who really, REALLY wanted to lynch me (I don't blame them) and still matt stuck to gonzaw for reasons I'm unsure of.


I stand by what I said that you seemed townie and those "bus" instead of "wagon" and your cop claim could have been brushed off as "bad play".

Maybe it was me but if people had read your filter this game, and took into account other games where you were scum they would have figured out you were town, or at least not be that sure to kill you and give you another chance.

I mean, even it townies make "bad plays" it's not "oh if the scum team is competent they'll get misslynched 100%". If other townies can get good reads then even if the scum team is "competent" they can't just make a townie change their read if he finds it accurate.

That's why I was kind of shocked I was being pushed so much (my "bad plays"=/="scum"), and Risen and Keirathi too (Keirathi for his outburst against Risen and his self-vote).


This brings to mind another possibility. I mean shit, matt could have pushed a lynch on me EASY. Then Keir is the next to go no questions asked in my mind. I just can't wrap my head around why matt buddied me. All it did was make me think he was scum.

it was to set up a win

buddy risen, lynch gonzaw, kill like s0l and rb you (WIFOM s0l death) lynch keith, kill whoever, lynch you gg
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 20 2012 23:36 GMT
#1796
Ps. Gonzaw I went after you cause I knew you didn't have enough time for the game(s) you were playing in, it was the only time I would have been able to actually get a lynch on your off... you posted just enough day 3 to survive imo
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 21 2012 00:01 GMT
#1799
Sorry to WBG for playing like shit and not wanting to be scum in his game, I had hit a streak of like 4 outta 5/6 games as scum and forgot to request town
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 21 2012 05:27 GMT
#1806
Gonzaw this may be stupid and wrong but ill try and give you an opinion... on d2 you kinda waffled on talis and discussion on him without bringing a new target (singular on purpose) to the table... Yes you posted long and hard to sit through cases/thoughts on people but you never felt like you were focused on getting any of them lynched... What I said was true, you can only lynch one person a day, and all of your connection theories are why so so so Many terrible mislynches occur in TL towns.. I mean if You guys (risen and Gonzaw) didn't have meta on me you probably would have never thought of lynching me after talis flipped red... Unless it's like Glaringly obvious that there's a connection it's better to just scum hunt individuals and not worry about finding the whole team... That being said I think your day posts of reads are best suited for nighttime deadline posts cause that's the perfect time to find the whole team (incase you die)
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
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