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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 19 2012 16:42 GMT
#1332
well then
why did I and half the rest of the thread think that's why you were voting Gonzaw?

Actually tbh my reading of your post with the lol it's summer list was that you had a green check on me, a red check on gonzaw, and thought you'd found some breadcrumb or behavior indicating that solstice was the second mason.

Seriously, you did nothing to differentiate between the way you presented your "townreads" on solstice and me, and your "scumread" on gonzaw, and you backed that last one up with a vote.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 19 2012 16:45 GMT
#1333
On July 20 2012 01:16 DropBear wrote:
Ok I'm moving on from Risen, I want to lynch Keirathi. There are five main points against him for mine.

1. Firstly, he backs up and sheeps tali's case against me on day 2.

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 05:15 Keirathi wrote:
DropBear

Along with tali, I feel like he was been entirely overaggressive and disruptive with thinks like + Show Spoiler +
On July 13 2012 02:58 DropBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 02:20 talismania wrote:
On July 13 2012 02:00 DropBear wrote:
##Vote Vivax


the hell? any reasons beyond what marv said?

I called him out as being suss last page, do you read boy?
, but he refuted that with some meta argument, so I'll give him the BotD for that just being the way he plays.


2. His avoidance of voting for tali day 2. He clearly doesn't want to vote for tali, but doesn't give any other options. Not only this he puts in a martyr at the end.

Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 05:45 Keirathi wrote:
Man, missing 90% of the day is frustrating. I'm second guessing everything at this point, and don't have any really strong townie reads.


Also I really don't know what I think about tali. There's so many cases against him, and they are all decent, but none of them are damning I think. Maybe enough little things adds up to him being scum, but I remain unconvinced. Almost everything about him is either directly relating to his plan, or relating to things that branched out from his plan. I agree that his plan was really bad and I don't want to support bad play, but like Milton pointed out, he was entirely too invested in it. I don't really see scum as staying that invested into pushing something to intentionally bring attention onto himself. Something about this case and being so little opposition just feels bandwagonny. If I'm wrong, it probably means I get lynched tomorrow because of this post though


3. So who does he vote?
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 06:51 Keirathi wrote:
Bleh catch 22. Have to vote but I don't particularly feel good about the tali lynch. I don't think its impossible that he is scum, but I'm decently positive he's not.

I don't really think Drop or s0lstice are great cases either. So who the eff to vote for. My gut read on a throwaway vote, or the popular read with no conviction?!

Who does he vote? sciberbia, the first person to make a case against tali.

4. Next he jumps rapidly onto the gonzaw bandwagon. Sole reasoning here.
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On July 18 2012 08:09 Keirathi wrote:
##vote: gonzaw

Note that a lack of explanation behind a vote was a key reason he voted for me on day 1, this is a double standard.

5. Lastly his ragequit. If he was actually a townie, he's arguing for a deliberate mislynch here.
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On July 18 2012 16:48 Keirathi wrote:
On July 18 2012 16:46 Risen wrote:
It's hilarious how scummy keirathi's posting is. (i guess I'm the only one seeing it though since you have to take my being a cop as true to see it that way)

And maybe strongandbig sees it.

Then fucking lynch me today so you can get past your tunnel vision that you had with Vivax and maybe make an actual good read.

I'm serious, as much as I don't want us to lynch a townie today, I would rather Risen not be biased and tunneling me and not trying to find the real scum.

##Vote: Keirathi

He mentions the real scum a lot, but his lynch plan was the same as mine, lynch Risen to confirm two townies. No scumhunting there. Also, I have only seen a ragequit like this once before; ilovejonn in mafia 39 who was scum and was backed into a corner so this is what he did.

##Unvote

##Vote Keirathi



This, I can get behind. Just psychologically I think it's likely that at least one scum wasn't involved in pushing the tali lynch, if not both. It makes sense that a newer player would have trouble pushing his godfather. Plus I 100% agree on the ragequit. It just seemed so unneccesary from a townie viewpoint, there weren't even that many votes on him; he just couldn't get whoever was active in the thread at the time to believe that he was town.

##vote: keirathi
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 19 2012 17:01 GMT
#1335
so the deadline is in ~5 hours, we should be thinking about consolidation.

I would be willing to vote for, from most preferred to least, the following people:

- Keirathi
- Gonzaw
- Milton or DropBear


I think Matt and Sci are town, and for the moment I'm accepting Risen's claim at least until we see the flip and NK.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 19 2012 17:04 GMT
#1340
On July 20 2012 02:01 Risen wrote:
Ebwop: just read your sig and I'm dying laughing right now strongandbig


the funnier thing is how in a later game I played with Drazerk he tried to use my sig as evidence for how townies mess up too much, and I'm just like, drazerk I think you missed the point
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 19 2012 17:09 GMT
#1344
On July 20 2012 02:03 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 02:01 strongandbig wrote:
so the deadline is in ~5 hours, we should be thinking about consolidation.

I would be willing to vote for, from most preferred to least, the following people:

- Keirathi
- Gonzaw
- Milton or DropBear


I think Matt and Sci are town, and for the moment I'm accepting Risen's claim at least until we see the flip and NK.

If keir flips green what is your plan? I think I have something posted somewhere.


So I actually had a paragraph of hypothetical speculation written up but then I realized this question makes no sense.

If Keir flips green my plan is to find scum and kill them.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 19 2012 17:10 GMT
#1346
On July 20 2012 02:06 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 02:02 sciberbia wrote:
Guys I really don't think keirathi is a good lynch. Read his filter back to front. There really isn't anything that scummy and a few things feel townie.

Point 1 - really not that suspicious
Point 2 & 3 - okay yea he made a bad read. he got caught up on the idea I was scum and talis was not. It still feels townie though. s0Lstice seems much more suspicious for originally "strongly agreeing" with the cases against talis and then getting cold feet after 1 minor point from miltonkram
point 4 - he understandably misread risen's claim
point 5 - I grant this is somwhat suspicious

His tone of posting since D2 just feels townie to me.

Overall, I just don't see enough evidence to warrant a lynch.


My read is based entirely on his day 3 play. Seriously who lynches a cop claim when the cop is either going to die that night or come back with another check then get lynched the next day?


sigh.

DOUBLE FUCKING SIGH.

Either milton is scum or there's a roleblocker (or both, possibly but unlikely).
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 19 2012 17:11 GMT
#1348
actually you know what fuck this

i'm officially willing to lynch risen now.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 19 2012 17:16 GMT
#1350
if he's scum he'll just make up another green check though.

well, I'll lynch gonzaw or risen if keirathi's not happening but i'll keep my vote on keirathi until I get home, see you fools in a few hours.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 19 2012 19:51 GMT
#1400
what the fuck is going on risen why are you giving up what the fuck man

honestly people can you really see risen fakeclaiming cop and then doing it this badly?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 19 2012 20:05 GMT
#1402
like i've said like a billion times, yes

but

i still think keirathi is scummier

but yeah im down to lynch gonzaw, if nothing else then for somehow managing to make "not reading the thread" into an art form

## unvote
## vote gonzaw
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 19 2012 21:53 GMT
#1480
This is pretty stupid

risen, what the fuck are you doing. if you're town idk what the fuck you're doing. if you're scum idk what the fuck you're doing either. like, if you think matt is town then fucking switch to gonzaw.

pretty sure we should be lynching gonzaw now guys. this thing where he complains about how TL mafia is going to stop loving him doesn't smell right to me.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 19 2012 22:05 GMT
#1520
well fuck you mattchew

fuck




you
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 19 2012 22:06 GMT
#1521
fuck













you














stop messing with my head
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 19 2012 22:14 GMT
#1537
On July 20 2012 07:08 gonzaw wrote:
Hye S&B!

Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:39 strongandbig wrote:
On July 19 2012 12:28 gonzaw wrote:
Framers only frame townies to get a red check (never heard of framers being able to frame their own buddies to get them to check "town"...that's what Godfathers do).



This is egregious. Every time a framer has been mentioned in a thread since I've started playing TL mafia, someone has mentioned the possibility of framing their teammates; there's no reason to assume the opposite so blithely.

It's just, like, enough is enough - at a certain point we have to assume that this is malicious. I just can't decide what the odds are that Gonzaw would actually do as much work as he is claiming and posting without even reading the OP.


Do you plan on backing up this statement now? I'd like you to convince me there is a Framer that can get a buddy of his to turn green to a check, if you know what I mean



No I don't. IDK whether you're scum. I had mattchew read correctly both previous times he was scum with me, so this time I was pretty confident in my read on him, but I was wrong.

That doesn't mean you're town, or not. Still up in the air.

But I stand by the statement that you've managed to turn "not reading the thread" into an art form.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 19 2012 22:18 GMT
#1546
lol gonzaw
you remember what I said about not reading the thread?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 19 2012 22:19 GMT
#1548
On July 20 2012 07:16 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 07:14 Keirathi wrote:
EBWOP: Wait...

S&B && S0lstice 100% confirmed town, UNLESS Risen is a townie fake claiming cop.


The jig is up! I fake claimed cop guys. It worked, tough!


On July 20 2012 07:16 gonzaw wrote:
There's no point in claiming tonight though, do so tomorrow in our massclaim



On July 20 2012 07:18 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 07:17 Keirathi wrote:
On July 20 2012 07:16 gonzaw wrote:
Oh nevermind, I guess we can't have confirmed townies then

...UNLESS THE FUCKING MASON CLAIMED!!!!


ARGHGHGHHGG

What. Yes we can.

Matt was a GOON. That means if the last scum is a framer, they couldnt target themselves.

So there are 2 options:

1) Risen is a cop, and both of his checks are legit.

2) Risen is the 3rd mafia.



FUck me I'm sorry I'm too derp for this setup stuff

You are right then, S&B+solstice confirmed town

"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 19 2012 22:20 GMT
#1550
oh wait it was a joke

i hope

honestly risen you've derped enough that i would believe it
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 19 2012 22:21 GMT
#1552
wait it wasn't a joke?

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

and solstice and i were your strongest town reads??????

"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 19 2012 22:22 GMT
#1554
honestly i really hope this is a gambit to get scum not to shoot you tonight
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
July 19 2012 22:23 GMT
#1556
why were solstice and i your strongest town reads that doesn't make any sense

like i'm townie as fuck but i wasn't pushing tali hard like sciberia was

and solstice is scummy as all get out

risen you make no sense
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