this looks fascinating. I promise I won't be inactivity modkilled <333333
EDIT: Actually, I'm gonna be out of town for a bit coming up, so I'm /out
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this looks fascinating. I promise I won't be inactivity modkilled <333333 EDIT: Actually, I'm gonna be out of town for a bit coming up, so I'm /out | ||
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I am not WBG's smurf. Also, I'm very pleased to say that I am /in | ||
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As it is plainly visible, this is a drawing of the two of us high-fiving. | ||
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Policy lynch imo. I can never understand that guy. | ||
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The town was quiet at first, but VE has now claimed Inception Agent. After we told him there was no way for us to confirm it, he changed his roleclaim to 1-shot vigilante death miller. I worry that he may be lying, but I worry even more he may be telling the truth. The night grows dark and the shadows lengten. End log entry. | ||
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lengten len-gten lens gten (the s is added due to the removal of the h, since the timestamp is D1.. 20--, which means 20 - 1 which is 19, the number of s, and the second minus sign tells you it's a subtracted letter, such as h, and the number of 0s between 1 and 2 in the timestamp is 3, so you back up 3 spaces and put the s there) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lens google "gten" and you get precision linear components.. items used to see. Items like a lens. because I can see; I am the cop. I checked Chezinu last night and he came back 6th party which means he's scum and needs to die. | ||
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I guess he's probably RoL's smurf then. | ||
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On July 12 2012 03:17 gonzaw wrote: Considering usual smurf play these last few games he'll most likely just smurf-fail and post from his real account soon after the game starts, so we'll get to know who he is. You know what's funny, it sounds like this is a really dumb mistake, but it's super super easy to do by accident. Like, amazingly easy. If I were gonna smurf, I'd log into TL with the smurf account on a different browser (chrome, or firefox, or something) and ONLY use that browser for playing mafia, so I wouldn't have to deal with who's logged in and who's logged out-- chrome for the smurf, firefox for blazinghand. or something. | ||
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Night -2 Whoever-hasn't-updated-signup-list walked through the town. After the heated discussions of earlier in the day, things seemed oddly quiet. He dragged behind him his cabinet, that cabinet his mother gave him so long ago. In a way, of all the things he owned, it was the cabinet he valued most. He didn't have much, any more, from his old life. Sure, he had his coat, and he had his memories, but it was the cabinet that got him through thick and thin. In a way, he knew it was coming. When he found himself surrounded by stony-faced townsfolk, he acted surprised but he had seen the tide turn slowly against him earlier in the day. His death was inevitable. Grimly, they grabbed him, and his cabinet fell to the ground with a clatter. It's odd, but somehow Whoever-hasn't-updated-signup-list cared more about what happened to his furniture than himself as he was dragged to the center of the town square. The rope was tightening, now, and he was lifted into the air. No swift neck-breaking, no merciful guillotine for him-- no, he would suffer and choke, slowly. He swung his legs in the air, trying to gasp but unable to even fill his lungs. He knew it was futile, but he kept on kicking. Eventually, the burning in his chest began to overwhelm, and kicking seemed like so much effort amidst all this pain. Unconsciousness swept over him, and Death was a mercy at the end of his mean life. Whoever-hasn't-updated-signup-list the Miller has been lynched! Day -1 begins in 24 hours. Make sure to PM your night actions to both me and your mother between now and then. | ||
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On July 15 2012 20:15 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2012 15:12 Protactinium wrote: Okay the game will start 04:00 GMT (+00:00) tomorrow (sunday) night. Player list finalized barring anything major. I'm sorry if you signed up and didn't get on the player list. All those who privately gave good reasons why they should be included got in.The rest were either taken from recommendations or prior experience. Unfortunately if we haven't seen you play/played with you it's rather hard to make a judgment call. Anyone who didn't get on the player list will be a replacement unless you wish otherwise. Pretty sure I answered the hit question somewhere in here earlier. Does deadline have to be that late? *weeps european tears* Just think of it as "early" and all will be well. | ||
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In any case, in this setup it seems pretty straightforwards to me. Analyze like normal, hold people to their views like normal, look for weird unsubstantiated cases like normal. There's more scum and they're less organized, but I don't see why we need to do our D1 or D2 anything different than what we typically do. Just keep an eye open for people doing shit without legit town motives and you're good to go as always. @Chezinu: Chaos bad ##vote: Chezinu | ||
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On July 16 2012 15:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: It'd be irresponsible to call someone scum after one post ... FoS: Chezinu ._. | ||
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On July 16 2012 15:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2012 15:41 Blazinghand wrote: On July 16 2012 15:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: It'd be irresponsible to call someone scum after one post ... FoS: Chezinu ._. What part of FoS is me calling Chez scum? Can you tell me what FoS means? FoS means "I, Meapak_Ziphh, am afraid of putting out a strong stance because I'm worried I'll find out that Chez is scum with me-- I need an out" according to mafiascum wiki | ||
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On July 17 2012 00:31 HiroPro wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 00:24 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, so far we have pseudo-scumhunting by most, RL by Palmar (:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO) and Chezinu is a mad detective. Syllo wants to lynch Prob, marvel misses me and QbZ is sinani? Did I miss anything gravely important before I post like...opinions? You missed BH making an odd vote on MZ and then ignoring Probulous when he questioned him on his Chezinu vote. I actually voted Chezinu first, THEN ignored Probulous, THEN voted MZ, then continued to ignore Probulous. Just to clarify the order of my actions. | ||
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On July 16 2012 15:46 Probulous wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2012 15:32 Blazinghand wrote: @Prob: I think that's Chezinu you got quoted there. Thank you for not reading. Show nested quote + On July 16 2012 15:09 Q-bert-Z wrote: They can only send one message a day, so we should try to create an environment that is shifting too much for that message to be useful. It was in the spoiler. That is what Chez was responding too Show nested quote + In any case, in this setup it seems pretty straightforwards to me. Analyze like normal, hold people to their views like normal, look for weird unsubstantiated cases like normal. There's more scum and they're less organized, but I don't see why we need to do our D1 or D2 anything different than what we typically do. Just keep an eye open for people doing shit without legit town motives and you're good to go as always. @Chezinu: Chaos bad ##vote: Chezinu Fluff and nonsense. I have never played a game with Chez but I have read his games and he is never clear. Chaos is his middle name (OK, maybe I am exaggerating) but the point being voting for him, is just dumb. It is not like he wasn't posting and your vote isn't going to make him be all clear and transparent. So Mr Blazinghand, why aren't you reading the thread and why are pushing easy targets? In addition why are you dismissing my ideas without actually commenting on them. In this post, he responds to a vote I made on Chezinu. However, if you pay attention, this post was actually made several minutes after I interacted with MZ then decided he was scum and voted him. Probulous accuses me of not reading the thread, but he is literally not reading the thread. Seems pretty straightforwards to me: useless if town, incompetent if scum. Nothing worth responding to here. In a similar vein he makes some very weak prods at MZ, but I'm not sure I can distinguish that from general prodding. So I've got him in my "ignore for now, reassess later" bin. | ||
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On July 17 2012 01:26 sandroba wrote: No u. You are trying to come up with reasons and arguments out of thin air. Doesn't seem like a natural thought process at all, looks like you are tryharding to fake contributions, even more so now that people are looking at you. I'm pretty sure you are scum at this point =) Why not vote me then? Or are you waiting for permission from your overlords. | ||
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On July 17 2012 01:32 supersoft wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 01:30 Blazinghand wrote: Welp I don't really know what to say to that since even a scum sandroba wouldn't KNOW that MZ was scum at this point unless he's one of the controllers and MZ was a minion. It's preposterous that there'd be any other reason to vote me, so after MZ flips minion, we can lynch Sandroba and he'll flip manager. interesting. and what about syllo? What about him | ||
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I've seen the light. ##unvote ##vote: syllogism die scum | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=102651 Ok so he starts off with irrelevant questions that look like pressure but aren't (link), then continues by saying that HE WANTS TO LYNCH PROBULOUS WITHOUT VOTING HIM (link), then states I'm scum but hides behind another dude's case and doesn't vote me! (link). This is a man with no strong opinions except, apparently, that everyone is scum but he's not voting anyone. Scummy. Scum. | ||
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On July 17 2012 01:54 HiroPro wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 01:52 marvellosity wrote: It looks more to me like HiroPro is going gung-ho on the tails of the experienced players and leaping in positively to look good. You can call it whatever you want. But I see a case that I think is good. You see a case you think is good, and you voted. This is not something syllo did. Are you being intentionally obtuse, or is this actually what you think? | ||
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On July 17 2012 02:21 supersoft wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 01:35 Blazinghand wrote: + Show Spoiler + Oh my lord, you're right. Syllo's managed to make several posts without actually comitting to anything at all. I take it all back, he's the scum here. He agrees with Sandro on me, but doesn't do anything about it. He would "like to lynch" probulous, but doesn't vote him. I've seen the light. ##unvote ##vote: syllogism die scum oh this makes his stuff look artificial... looks like he doesn't believe his own words. ahm okay. maybe i was wrong. BH can you link me like 2 recent towngames of you please? Sure! I recently played in LIII as "BlazingJitsu" http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128 and in LV on this account: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=336250 In LIII I was a VT, and in LV I was a Hatter. | ||
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On July 17 2012 02:32 syllogism wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 02:28 Palmar wrote: On July 17 2012 02:27 syllogism wrote: On July 17 2012 02:17 Palmar wrote: I agree with BlazingHand let's kill syllogism. Nice catch supersoft. Do you honestly agree? Be very honest. Also, what is the nice catch you are referring to? Why do you not announce that you support my RL idea? I don't support it and I was more interested in seeing how others would react to it. Even if I agreed that it was a good idea, there was about 0% chance of the majority actually agreeing to it. Regardless, did you expect me to agree? Mafia don't know who other mafia are, so they don't have the usual advantage of being able to control which alignment gets lynched in this format, especially on day 1. Yeah I mean part of the "goal" of a random lynch is that, for mafia players, it isn't random. They are hindered by their knowledge of alignment. This game, and others like it (sleeper cell, etc) are probably explicitly games where the advantage of random lynch is lost. It still has some value as a conversation starter, I guess, but honestly it's not worth it in general, and even less so in a setup where most scum don't know who most scum are. | ||
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On July 17 2012 02:36 Mattchew wrote: CAN SOMEONE READ WHAT I POSTED ON KATINA, AT THE VERY LEAST TO JUST TELL ME IM WRONG I think you have powerfully refuted Katina's case. I don't think Katina being wrong makes Katina scum, though-- Katina occasionally lurks but Katina also typically has thoughts on more than one player, and will post aggressively to respond to multiple players in the thread. Check her Liar Game filter for an example of her VT play: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=333034&user=248411 (bear in mind it was PM game though) | ||
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##unvote ##vote: Kurumi Tomorrow we lynch Syllo | ||
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On July 17 2012 07:36 sandroba wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 07:32 Blazinghand wrote: welp ##unvote ##vote: Kurumi Tomorrow we lynch Syllo Nope tomorrow we lynch you =P. You guys lynch syllo day 5 or so if he has not raped all mafia by then =) nope tomorrow we lynch syllo. we'll lynch syllo day 2 because he is mafia ez | ||
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On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote: You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you? Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip. | ||
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On July 17 2012 07:42 Kurumi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 07:41 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote: On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote: You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you? Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip. You are making this so easy. I am town. You "know" I am town. Why vote on me? ._. My point is that "if you are really a town player" you should be spending your resources to help me lynch syllo. You're not doing much to convince me right now. | ||
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On July 17 2012 07:46 Kurumi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 07:43 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 07:42 Kurumi wrote: On July 17 2012 07:41 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote: On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote: You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you? Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip. You are making this so easy. I am town. You "know" I am town. Why vote on me? ._. My point is that "if you are really a town player" you should be spending your resources to help me lynch syllo. You're not doing much to convince me right now. Why not the case on you? It sounds cool. God, I don't care, just do something useful. Do you really think you're helping town by flapping around like this? Or are you just trying to waste people's time efficiently until nightfall? | ||
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On July 17 2012 07:52 Kurumi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 07:49 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 07:46 Kurumi wrote: On July 17 2012 07:43 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 07:42 Kurumi wrote: On July 17 2012 07:41 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote: On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote: You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you? Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip. You are making this so easy. I am town. You "know" I am town. Why vote on me? ._. My point is that "if you are really a town player" you should be spending your resources to help me lynch syllo. You're not doing much to convince me right now. Why not the case on you? It sounds cool. God, I don't care, just do something useful. Do you really think you're helping town by flapping around like this? Or are you just trying to waste people's time efficiently until nightfall? Do you honestly think people are going to reread ANYTHING I post? Do you honestly think people CARE? No, they don't. Sorry man, but there's not much I can do. I can only sit there and watch. NO. NOT IF YOIU'RE TOWN IT'S NOT. Look Kurumi. Imagine, for a moment, that you're town, and not scum, which you clearly are. If you are town, you KNOW yuou're gonna flip town when you're lycnhed. So instead of dicking around, you should be MAKING CASES. and ANALYZING and helping. and stuff. That way, when you flip town, people are like "oh, hey he was town" and read your shit and hey, despite being mislynched you helped. Right now, you're doing none of that. You're just being either a) town who's so whiny he's stopped helping or b) scum who got caught and is butthurt and at this point it's clear that it's b) | ||
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On July 17 2012 07:57 Kurumi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 07:54 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 07:52 Kurumi wrote: On July 17 2012 07:49 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 07:46 Kurumi wrote: On July 17 2012 07:43 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 07:42 Kurumi wrote: On July 17 2012 07:41 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote: On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote: You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you? Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip. You are making this so easy. I am town. You "know" I am town. Why vote on me? ._. My point is that "if you are really a town player" you should be spending your resources to help me lynch syllo. You're not doing much to convince me right now. Why not the case on you? It sounds cool. God, I don't care, just do something useful. Do you really think you're helping town by flapping around like this? Or are you just trying to waste people's time efficiently until nightfall? Do you honestly think people are going to reread ANYTHING I post? Do you honestly think people CARE? No, they don't. Sorry man, but there's not much I can do. I can only sit there and watch. NO. NOT IF YOIU'RE TOWN IT'S NOT. Look Kurumi. Imagine, for a moment, that you're town, and not scum, which you clearly are. If you are town, you KNOW yuou're gonna flip town when you're lycnhed. So instead of dicking around, you should be MAKING CASES. and ANALYZING and helping. and stuff. That way, when you flip town, people are like "oh, hey he was town" and read your shit and hey, despite being mislynched you helped. Right now, you're doing none of that. You're just being either a) town who's so whiny he's stopped helping or b) scum who got caught and is butthurt and at this point it's clear that it's b) I thought about playing like that guy Blazinghand in one of mafia games where he posted videos pictures and stuff but I decided that it sucks. People rarely re-read things dead people have written. That's why our towns suck so much. We ignore what confirmed vets/good players have written. The last game had austin, who made couple of HUUUUUUUGE posts which were very good. Guess what. Buried. Forsaken. Nobody cared. About a guy, who DID good job. Why would they care about me? OK you know what I'm just gonna let that slide cause clearly I gotta correct some negativity in here. Check it. If you really think town won't listen to what you have to say, that's fine. But I *personally* promise to you that if you post some cases and flip town, I will PUSH THEM for you after you die. You know me-- I can push a case. I'll find one that I find reasonable, and I'll supplement it with my own case. And this will be a grand turning point for TL towns. What do you say? If you really think TL Towns are bad, whining rather than helping certainly won't make them good. Come, Kurumi. Let's change things for the better. | ||
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On July 17 2012 10:17 Kurumi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 10:16 Blazinghand wrote: ##block: Chezinu I was hoping not to have to use this. I really hope you're trolling. You could've saved someone later. Not if I get nuked first. | ||
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On July 17 2012 11:30 Mattchew wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 11:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I'm kinda hamstrung until rastaban gets back so in the meantime I'll throw my name in with the people who want BH dead. On July 17 2012 11:20 Blazinghand wrote: WBG, after some thought, I agree with you. Although syllogism strikes me as scummy, Layabout is irredeemably so. Examining his filter (link) I cannot in good conscience NOT vote him. This is a big game and he's trying to skate by. Syllogism's posting history, while unfavorably comparable with the droppings of a flock of diuretic parrots, greatly outdoes Layabout's simply on strength of its existene. Layabout is trying to skate by. We can't let that happen. ##unvote ##vote: layabout BH is really just going for whoever is currently the flavor of the hour, if you look at his posts he's simply flipped whenever thread opinion has changed. Also his reasons for voting people have been very sheepy, he's been gunning for syllo for the better part of the game but all of a sudden bugs waltzes in with a case and BH flips again. ##Unvote ##Vote: Blazinghand Do you disagree with his reasoning for his votes? or just that he's jumping a lot? As a town player, I definitely never move my vote around a bunch in the same day so CLEARLY that's grounds for me being scum. CLEARLY> | ||
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On July 17 2012 11:35 HiroPro wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Blazinghand ##Nuke Blazinghand Man, you know you know what I hate you so much I can't even express how mad I am | ||
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On July 17 2012 12:25 wherebugsgo wrote: Well, if he were town, he would have used his block power to block Kurumi from nuking RoL, since Kurumi's nuke was mod-confirmed BEFORE Chezinu used ##nuke in the thread. Kurumi being scum doesn't mean RoL is town. Even if Kurumi is one of the managers, he still has very little idea who he's actually shooting, and RoL isn't exactly captain mctownerson to begin with. *I*, on the other hand, am 100% confirmed town (to myself). | ||
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On July 17 2012 12:31 wherebugsgo wrote:you can actually almost trust reads given by scum in this game. It means you ignore things you would normally count as town tells (i.e. if they push a scum then you don't count it as a town tell) however you CAN take everyone's pushes seriously because everyone in the game has an interest in finding scum. And it's for this reason I can't automatically block Kurumi. And how am I supposed to know that you can ##nuke without having nukes? I'm not intimately familiar with chezinu, the man is utterly opaque to me. He had (or so it appeared) edited a post and for all I know he was planning to launch his nuke for being modkilled. | ||
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On July 17 2012 12:37 wherebugsgo wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 12:35 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 12:25 wherebugsgo wrote: Well, if he were town, he would have used his block power to block Kurumi from nuking RoL, since Kurumi's nuke was mod-confirmed BEFORE Chezinu used ##nuke in the thread. Kurumi being scum doesn't mean RoL is town. Even if Kurumi is one of the managers, he still has very little idea who he's actually shooting, and RoL isn't exactly captain mctownerson to begin with. *I*, on the other hand, am 100% confirmed town (to myself). it doesn't mean RoL is town, but since Kurumi is scum you have an interest in stopping a scum nuke. When Chez "nuked" you it seemed like you just panicked. You could've waited however long you wanted to on that block if you're town, and if you are town it's in your best interest to wait. But, you chose to use it before the mod confirmation of the nuke. Well, yeah I panicked, I don't want to die! Death is bad. Admittedly, in retrospect, it would have been wiser to wait for the day to get closer to the end, but I wasn't thinking that at the time. I made a mistake. But I don't see how this mistake is more makeable by scum than town. After all, a scum Blocker wouldn't want to waste his bliock on a fake nuke either. | ||
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On July 17 2012 12:38 wherebugsgo wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 12:37 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 12:31 wherebugsgo wrote:you can actually almost trust reads given by scum in this game. It means you ignore things you would normally count as town tells (i.e. if they push a scum then you don't count it as a town tell) however you CAN take everyone's pushes seriously because everyone in the game has an interest in finding scum. And it's for this reason I can't automatically block Kurumi. And how am I supposed to know that you can ##nuke without having nukes? I'm not intimately familiar with chezinu, the man is utterly opaque to me. He had (or so it appeared) edited a post and for all I know he was planning to launch his nuke for being modkilled. Now you're just being deliberately dense and acting ignorant. You've also just displayed that you're not reading the thread. You know what I hate? People who are both scummy and ignorant of the happenings of the thread. You fall in that category right now. Okay, so what's ignorant in that post? 1) I can't automatically block kurumi -- seems reasonable 2) TYPICALLY in games with dayvigs you're not allowed to ##kill unless you have the ability to do so (as in that game where V7 was a jack and shot soap) -- also reasonable 3) I'm not familiar with chezinu -- I'm not. check my history. 4) he looked like he edited a post -- he did. I'm not the only one who was fooled, I'm sure THATS A REASONABLE POST. Don't make it out like it's not. | ||
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On July 17 2012 12:48 wherebugsgo wrote: [/b]Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 12:40 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 12:38 wherebugsgo wrote: On July 17 2012 12:37 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 12:31 wherebugsgo wrote:you can actually almost trust reads given by scum in this game. It means you ignore things you would normally count as town tells (i.e. if they push a scum then you don't count it as a town tell) however you CAN take everyone's pushes seriously because everyone in the game has an interest in finding scum. And it's for this reason I can't automatically block Kurumi. And how am I supposed to know that you can ##nuke without having nukes? I'm not intimately familiar with chezinu, the man is utterly opaque to me. He had (or so it appeared) edited a post and for all I know he was planning to launch his nuke for being modkilled. Now you're just being deliberately dense and acting ignorant. You've also just displayed that you're not reading the thread. You know what I hate? People who are both scummy and ignorant of the happenings of the thread. You fall in that category right now. Okay, so what's ignorant in that post? 1) I can't automatically block kurumi -- seems reasonable If I rolled a block ability as town and there was a confirmed scum who used a confirmed nuke power, I would block the confirmed scum because it's in town's interest to stop that scum from achieving his agenda. Stop him from killing RoL, over stopping someone from killing you, when you know you yourself are town? I'd save the guy I know to be town: myself. On July 17 2012 12:48 wherebugsgo wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 12:40 Blazinghand wrote: 2) TYPICALLY in games with dayvigs you're not allowed to ##kill unless you have the ability to do so (as in that game where V7 was a jack and shot soap) -- also reasonable This is false, you can write ##kill as a VT, it just won't do anything. This has happened in multiple games before. The general consensus is to wait for a mod to confirm the action before acting in reaction to it. You did not follow this convention. Multiple games I wasn't in, a general consensus I wasn't part of. On July 17 2012 12:48 wherebugsgo wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 12:40 Blazinghand wrote: 3) I'm not familiar with chezinu -- I'm not. check my history. I don't give a fuck about your history, the fact is that if you're reading Chezinu's posts from this game you should understand what kind of a player he is. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that he's a troll and thus should only be taken seriously if he's acting serious. The fact that you didn't realize this by now is a strong suggestion that you're not reading his posts. Really? More of a troll that Kurumi this game, or QBZ with his nonsense? Or Layabout with his literally not posting? No, I think I had good reason to be afraid of a guy who uses a bolded hash command in the thread. On July 17 2012 12:48 wherebugsgo wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 12:40 Blazinghand wrote: 4) he looked like he edited a post -- he did. I'm not the only one who was fooled, I'm sure THATS A REASONABLE POST. Don't make it out like it's not. This is the confirmation for me that you're not reading the thread. Someone else WAS fooled, but it was directly clarified by a third person that it was a fake edit. In fact, it was another scummy person who thought Chez edited (it was Meapak) and the fact that you didn't read the clarification but assumed he would get modkilled is an incredibly strong indication that you are scum. [/quote] For what it's worth, AT THE TIME I MADE MY POST, I was mobile. I was playing via phone, and okay, sure I missed Meapak calling it out and getting clarified. BUT AT THE TIME, I thought it was legitimate, and I figured he just wanted to nuke me since people have been taking potshots at me at the time. This was during normal commute hours for PST (where I live) and I a made a post to this effect: On July 17 2012 10:09 Blazinghand wrote: Lol how srs r we ##unvote ##vote syllogism This should hold down the fort till I get home. | ||
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On July 17 2012 12:55 Probulous wrote: BH do you actually have a blocking ability? Still trying to get my head around this. Yes. My role is 1-shot day blocker. | ||
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On July 17 2012 13:06 Probulous wrote: Then why didn't you make a push for a Chezinu lynch? I mean you have already voted for him in game. Then he randomly sends a nuke your way, you obviously believed him because you used your power. But instead you side with bugs on the layabout lynch. I don't know if it alignment indicative but it is hard for me to picture you having a read on someone and then suddenly it changes when they nuke you? Chezinu needlessly nuking me does not make him a scum player. I didn't block him because he's scum, I blocked him because he was nuking a town player. I'm going after layabout not because I want to be WBG's butt-buddy or because Chezinu is somehow more reasonable but because layabout needs to die. There seems to be some confusion here guys: nuking a town player doesn't make you scum, nuking a scum player doesn't make you town. Most scum dont' know each other's alignments. Shit's crazy. Chezinu throwing a nuke at me does not make him scum. | ||
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On July 18 2012 05:06 supersoft wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2012 05:04 VisceraEyes wrote: On July 18 2012 05:00 Kurumi wrote: On July 18 2012 04:59 VisceraEyes wrote: ITT Kurumi does no scumhunting, calls everyone stupid, and expects everyone to believe him when he says he's town. I DON'T FUCKING CARE IF YOU CAN'T SEE IT I CARE THAT PEOPLE WITH SOMETHING IN THEIR HEADS SURVIVE I can tell by the way you shot a nuke at RoL before he posted. maybe Kurumi is some kind of jester. That would explain his desire to get lynched -_- last post from me regarding kurumi btw. he's not longer existing. Unlikely given the high scum count this game. He's just trolling at this point and is worth of being ignored and derided. Currently catching up in the thread. Tentatively my plan is to address any additions to the case against me, and articulate some good cases against Syllo and Laya. I might see something else on the way though. | ||
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On July 18 2012 05:07 Kurumi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2012 05:06 supersoft wrote: On July 18 2012 05:04 VisceraEyes wrote: On July 18 2012 05:00 Kurumi wrote: On July 18 2012 04:59 VisceraEyes wrote: ITT Kurumi does no scumhunting, calls everyone stupid, and expects everyone to believe him when he says he's town. I DON'T FUCKING CARE IF YOU CAN'T SEE IT I CARE THAT PEOPLE WITH SOMETHING IN THEIR HEADS SURVIVE I can tell by the way you shot a nuke at RoL before he posted. maybe Kurumi is some kind of jester. That would explain his desire to get lynched -_- last post from me regarding kurumi btw. he's not longer existing. I want town to no-lynch. We have a town dying already, maybe second too. We don't need third. Maybe luck will shine upon your flailing and you hit one of the scum (33% is a nice percentage) we no-lynch, and then where are we? We're in the same spot tomorrow, less one town player. I'm not gonna lean on some hypothetical DT to figure this game out for this. lynch is town's weapon and not using it at every opportunity is preposterous on its FACE. | ||
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On July 17 2012 03:42 GGQ wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 03:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 17 2012 03:27 Mattchew wrote: On July 17 2012 03:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 17 2012 03:13 Mattchew wrote: On July 17 2012 03:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: so mattchew lemme get this right, I'm scummy because I "seems to be trying to look sensible and not shitstorm causing." Umm... duh so basically I'm scum because I'm playing protown? That's some pretty wicked logic there. cause you are playing an easy to fake pro-town without actually doing anything pro-town That's bullshit and you know it lol. you have said the word "chaos" or talked about town stability in almost every post you have made. Did you elect yourself town peacekeeper? Because basically every one of your posts has extremely little to do with actually finding and lynching scum Actually I'm playing smart and waiting until I have a solid case before I go after someone. In contrast, you have your idiotic crusade against katina and that's it. Discussion should be currently centered around Palmar for his inability/refusal to play. BH should be a secondary consideration for his random wild play. And of course I still haven't forgot chez and the smurf, I'm interested to see if they start playing as well. This may come as a shock but it's not always a good idea to shit up the thread with random cases. My lack of a formal "case" is way better than your little spat with Katina. What? Why? What would that accomplish? How would that help us find scum? Palmar does that shit all the time. It's stupid and unhelpful but arguing about it has never changed him before and it won't now. ##vote blazinghand You know, GCQ, I get it. Other people are asking you why you've posted a reply to MZ and voted me with no explanation, but you don't feel a need to respond to them at all since they're not nearly as sexy as me. At the very least, answer me, the guy you're voting: why did you vote me? what's your case? | ||
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On July 18 2012 06:45 Katina wrote: Gah! Blazinghand! It's like you know! My strategy is actually to insta-delurk SECONDS BEFORE getting voted. Much more town cred that way. | ||
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On July 18 2012 06:48 wherebugsgo wrote: However I do strongly believe that Austin is a capable player and a capable scumhunter. In particular his question to Kurumi of "aren't you curious about what out-ed you?" is incredibly strange. He's treating Kurumi like scum, but instead of moving on and trying to find other scum he tries to get sandro to roleclaim. What difference does knowing sandro's role make in determining sandro's alignment? I mean, there are 9 scum in this game. It's phenomenally easy to scumhunt just in terms of numbers, yet Austin's sole concern has been the balance of sandro's claimed role. Yeah, I hate to be "that guy" who just agrees with an existing case, but right now, I'm that guy. Think about what Austin was up to. If we examine the motivations for such questioning, it doesn't make sense from a town perspective. As a townie, your thought isn't to question to setup or to ask about whether a strong town role makes sense in an 18-9 game. Your thoughts are based on scum-hunting, and A) you probably won't be an sandro's ass and B) assuming you are on sandro's ass, you'll be consistent about who you think kurumi is and you'll be on sandro's ass about his behavior, not the potential specifics of his role. especially given role=/= alignment. A townie wouldn't naturally have this train of thought, but scum would. ##unvote ##vote: Austinmcc I've gotta do some work and then get home. Katina, I don't suppose you'll be online in about 3 hours? I'll be able rip apart your case with spears of pure townie logic then. | ||
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On July 18 2012 07:05 marvellosity wrote: Your entire post (look! players who are good at scum without practice!) is effectively disproven by the fact that austin is close to getting lynched now for making a fucking dumbass play. This is terrible logic if you think about it for a moment. | ||
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July 17 2012 23:51 GMT
#1010
Official Votecount Blazinghand (way too many) Some punks Austinmcc (not enough) some cool kids, a couple punks mixed in MZ (3) some cool kids, a couple punks mixed in Syllo (like nobody for some reason) some cool kids, a couple punks mixed in other guys guys | ||
Blazinghand
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July 17 2012 23:59 GMT
#1014
OH WAIT. JUST LIKE GGQ ITS ANOTHER VOTE WITH BASICALLY NO CASE. "but wait blazinghand didn't she post some text, and also reference a previous post or something?" wow ok let me help you man. You need help. You see, she did post some text, but most of it was talking about "what's happening presently"-- there was no analysis, not even a summary of other people's analysis. Check it out: On July 18 2012 06:44 Katina wrote: Right now both Syllogism and Blazinghand is near the top of my suspicion list and these two are the main candidates for lynch today. Blazinghand hasn't been around in for a bit while Syllogism has been here trying to defend himself and push his suspicions of Foolishness (Who is also scummy to me) I would like to give Syllo another day and see what happens. So I will be voting for Blazhinghand today. I'm sure enough about austin yet to consider him a lynch candidate today I will wait and see what happens later on. ##Unvote Kurumi ##Vote Blazinghand Depending on his flip and who dies during the night hopefully we will have a more organized D2. What the dicks is this? This is "oh blazinghand hasn't been around a bit" (at a time i'm literally posting in the thread) and like "oh i wonder how he'll flip" goddamn, make some analysis! This is like only marginally better than GGQ's vote post. MARGINALLY. And you know, you can tell it's a problem too when HiroPro, who, btw, is like TOTES down to lynch me is like WAT On July 18 2012 06:54 Katina wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2012 06:47 HiroPro wrote: Katina, you've never mentioned anything about BH before. Why lynch him? I mention him briefly in one of my posts early on. I said I wanted to see more from him until I make decision. I was watching him closely because people were always talking about him. At the time I thought the cases on Palmar and Foolishness were stronger. When Syllo popped up I thought he was more suspicious as well. So I was merely attacking them until I was more confident in Blazinghand's alignment.I have never been against his lynch if I was I would have said something early on. Especially when he started getting votes. oh yeah clearly she was onto me early, right? Let's go take a look: On July 17 2012 02:07 Katina wrote: As for BH, I'm not too sure about him yet. I'm going to wait to see more until I make a decision on him. WAT THATS EVERYTHING SHE WROTE Ladies, Gentlemen, and Chezinu: I've quoted everything Katina has wrote about me. If I hadn't quoted the voting, for all you know she could be voting anyone else! He vote on me has NO justification and it is ENCASED, SWADDLED in equivocation and lies. The equivocation and lies of a scum player trying to hop on what appears to be an easy wagon. Yes, my friends, this isn't someone who made a case. Not even someone who QUOTED a case. This is just someone who dropped a dman vote on me and dipped up out of here. Someone who wanted to get under the radar. scum. ##unvote ##vote: Katina SPEARS OF LOGIC | ||
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July 18 2012 00:01 GMT
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July 18 2012 00:44 GMT
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July 18 2012 00:45 GMT
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##unvote ##vote: Layabout same reasons as always. | ||
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July 18 2012 00:49 GMT
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July 18 2012 01:01 GMT
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##unvote ##vote: gonzaw | ||
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July 18 2012 01:11 GMT
#1072
On July 18 2012 10:10 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2012 10:08 Protactinium wrote: A bit less than 4 hours til the lynch I believe. no, 3 No.... 4 hours until midnight CDT. | ||
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July 18 2012 01:17 GMT
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July 18 2012 01:37 GMT
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July 18 2012 04:51 GMT
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July 18 2012 04:51 GMT
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July 18 2012 04:53 GMT
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July 18 2012 04:53 GMT
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July 18 2012 04:54 GMT
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July 18 2012 04:55 GMT
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July 18 2012 04:56 GMT
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July 18 2012 04:56 GMT
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July 18 2012 04:57 GMT
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July 18 2012 04:57 GMT
#1224
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July 18 2012 04:59 GMT
#1229
GGQ is like "oh I spend 95% of D1 lurking and posted random shit to get reactions"-- this is weak and shouldn't count as any sort of defence. Vig him or something, I'm sure we have some PRs for this. Layabout sounds legit in his laziness / personal problems. I'd try to prod him into playing. Don't waste a lynch on him vig. Don't trust Palmar. A real Palmar would never have trusted me today, given how I'ved played. meta or no gg | ||
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July 18 2012 05:00 GMT
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July 18 2012 05:00 GMT
#1233
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July 18 2012 05:01 GMT
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July 18 2012 05:03 GMT
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##unvote ##vote blazinghand | ||
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July 18 2012 05:03 GMT
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July 18 2012 05:04 GMT
#1247
On July 18 2012 14:03 Bill Murray wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2012 14:02 Mattchew wrote: On July 18 2012 13:59 sandroba wrote: Just saying that if kurumi flips town I might rage quit this game. what do you make of BH thinking he was dead's posts that's wifom that he thought he was dead Technically this is true. For all you guys know I was PLANNING on not getting lynched and it's all staged. Hence the takeback. Just ignore it. | ||
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July 18 2012 05:06 GMT
#1252
On July 18 2012 14:05 sandroba wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2012 14:03 Blazinghand wrote: Actually honestly there's no excuse for no lynch here. ##unvote ##vote blazinghand That's past the deadline. Nice try though. Also it wouldn't have mattered anyways given that I only had 12 votes. I thought I was at 13? | ||
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July 18 2012 05:06 GMT
#1254
On July 18 2012 14:06 Mattchew wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2012 14:03 Blazinghand wrote: Actually honestly there's no excuse for no lynch here. ##unvote ##vote blazinghand why did you do this 3 minutes (aka knowingly) past deadline.. Clearly it's a thinly-veiled scum gambit to get town cred | ||
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July 18 2012 05:08 GMT
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On July 18 2012 14:07 Chezinu wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2012 14:06 Blazinghand wrote: On July 18 2012 14:06 Mattchew wrote: On July 18 2012 14:03 Blazinghand wrote: Actually honestly there's no excuse for no lynch here. ##unvote ##vote blazinghand why did you do this 3 minutes (aka knowingly) past deadline.. Clearly it's a thinly-veiled scum gambit to get town cred honesty, thats what I like in my minions. I have been quite honest this game. The trick is to clothe it in so much craziness, trolling, and RP that nobody can find it, right? | ||
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July 18 2012 05:10 GMT
#1259
On July 18 2012 14:09 Chezinu wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2012 14:08 Blazinghand wrote: On July 18 2012 14:07 Chezinu wrote: On July 18 2012 14:06 Blazinghand wrote: On July 18 2012 14:06 Mattchew wrote: On July 18 2012 14:03 Blazinghand wrote: Actually honestly there's no excuse for no lynch here. ##unvote ##vote blazinghand why did you do this 3 minutes (aka knowingly) past deadline.. Clearly it's a thinly-veiled scum gambit to get town cred honesty, thats what I like in my minions. I have been quite honest this game. The trick is to clothe it in so much craziness, trolling, and RP that nobody can find it, right? I laughed at the fact that you said you can't hide much in many posts. Well, I guess that is true.. No mafia in their right mind will claim they are controlling minions, am I right? THATS WHY ITS THE PERFECT COVER | ||
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July 18 2012 05:15 GMT
#1267
On July 18 2012 14:14 Chezinu wrote: I mean changing someone's vote twice. What if he is mafia wanting no lynch and blaming some mysterious mafia is mind controlling him Either way looks bad for me ;_; | ||
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July 18 2012 05:19 GMT
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On July 18 2012 14:17 Chezinu wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2012 14:15 Blazinghand wrote: On July 18 2012 14:14 Chezinu wrote: I mean changing someone's vote twice. What if he is mafia wanting no lynch and blaming some mysterious mafia is mind controlling him Either way looks bad for me ;_; Not if mafia are just playing around. Like in a previous game where the equivalent to a CEO spelled GOSU with his night hits. I guess we'll just have to hope he doesn't spell BALLER | ||
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July 18 2012 05:27 GMT
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July 18 2012 15:19 GMT
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July 18 2012 16:15 GMT
#1353
On July 19 2012 00:42 Kurumi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2012 00:36 Mattchew wrote: its a roleplaying game, my wish would be only valid in the game You could wish for death of every scum though. That might count as multiple wishes, though, since you're killing multiple scum. | ||
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July 18 2012 16:16 GMT
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On July 19 2012 01:10 austinmcc wrote: 60 pages of D1 and we take up another half a page with discussion about mattchew's hypothetical genie wish... GGQ still looks bad to me. He returns with: Show nested quote + On July 18 2012 11:24 GGQ wrote: Why did I vote BH without mentioning even a single word about him? To see what would happen, of course! Most people's responses were good; just asking me why or making little noises of disgust. The only one who tried to construe it as scummy was Austin the squirming mafia. Why did I vote BH at all? Because he was being active and throwing his vote around without doing anything and seemed very concerned with his own activity, as if it was justifying something. I believed and still believe he is scum. I get very bad vibes from HiroPro. His posts all feel like he's just putting in his time. There's a bunch of other possible mafias in my mind, but another day another noose. The case on gonzaw feels weaker than the one on austin to me. I prefer to lynch BH or austinmcc, but I'll switch before deadline if it's necessary to get a lynch. GGQ voted BH 32 hours before this post. He explains his naked vote by saying he wanted "to see what would happen." Yet he waits 32 hours, until right before a lynch, to tell us what he learned, what wisdom he gained in those 32 hours. And all we get is that "most people's responses were good." That means some responses WEREN'T good. He doesn't say who gave those no-good responses (except me). Everything else he posted in his recent post is bland. HiroPro gives bad vibes. There are other possible mafia in his mind (seriously? We know there are NINE mafia. There better be other possible mafia in his mind). Case on gonzaw is weaker, but again, no real specifics. I also still feel like, given that he's played scum in both previous sleeper cell games, he's being way too lurky and passive, when he could be a serious asset to town given that he knows better than anyone here how scum may act this game. The one comment about how it's easier to come out strong on day 1 is all that he's given us. I agree with you-- I'm down for the horrible death of GGQ. I'm filled with consternation that we agree on something though. I really hope that someone shoots Kurumi tonight so we don't have to deal with him tomorrow. | ||
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July 18 2012 17:22 GMT
#1363
On July 19 2012 02:13 Katina wrote: BH: I don't know why people are so wishy - washy about him. He's pretty scummy in his play. He never freaks out this much when he's about to die except when he's Mafia. Not a valid point since, except for Storm Mafia which I replaced into, I have never even been closed to being lynched as town. I always freak out. Bad logic like most of your posts this game, scum. | ||
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July 18 2012 17:28 GMT
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July 18 2012 17:57 GMT
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July 18 2012 18:01 GMT
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On July 19 2012 02:59 Katina wrote: Syllogism you are making close to no sense right now. I have my read on Foolishness and I will give it to you once I am 1--% percent sure of it. Right now I am only 85% sure of his alignment. This whole thread has been basically nit picking and calling each other out on stupid things instead of working as an actual town and killing the Mafia like it should be. I thought this was a game for "skilled" people not a game for little bitchy whiners. You're right, we need to up the game in this town and work together-- therefore, let us insult each other's skill and call each other bitchy whiners. Yes, that is a great improvement to the town atmosphere. Oh no wait I take it back you're scum trying to make things worse. | ||
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July 18 2012 18:20 GMT
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July 18 2012 18:24 GMT
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On July 19 2012 03:22 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2012 03:20 Blazinghand wrote: The most horrifying part of this game is that, in this amazing crapfest, only 9 players are actually supposed to be working against the town. Everyone else is supposed to be pro-town. How is it possible things are like this? You know, BH, you could actually go a long way if you investigated that question. Good point! I'm on it. | ||
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July 18 2012 19:39 GMT
#1413
On July 19 2012 04:38 VisceraEyes wrote: :/ I was aware of your choices syllo. I don't know why he's all up on foolishness' ass but Katina is a great lynch. | ||
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July 18 2012 19:46 GMT
#1416
On July 19 2012 04:44 supersoft wrote: the votecount is wrong... Oh how cute he's just beginning to realize it | ||
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July 18 2012 19:51 GMT
#1420
On July 19 2012 04:48 Zealos wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2012 14:06 Mattchew wrote: On July 18 2012 14:03 Blazinghand wrote: Actually honestly there's no excuse for no lynch here. ##unvote ##vote blazinghand why did you do this 3 minutes (aka knowingly) past deadline.. This seems very odd to me indeed. There's no way this would have helped, as it was too late, so it just seems like he's using it to improve his "towniness" Indeed, there's really no way this could have helped. Clearly scum gambit to get town cred | ||
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July 18 2012 19:54 GMT
#1423
On July 19 2012 04:53 Zealos wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2012 12:37 Chezinu wrote: Yeah, I've been talking about all day. I work for the department of communication. My name is Mr. Walton, a pleasure to meet you. I think you should be much more open about this. Secrets = Not town generally. You're right, let's have more chezinu talking, that will make this thread easier to understand | ||
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July 18 2012 19:58 GMT
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On July 19 2012 04:56 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2012 04:53 syllogism wrote: On July 19 2012 04:47 marvellosity wrote: I like Katina this game. I'm waiting to hear more. Is this a joke? Can you link me to a post of hers you like? Did you read her last few posts, including her last post before the lynch? It's why I'm interested in hearing more. I like how many of the vets are "affronted" by it, and I'm curious if she's gonna take it anywhere. Did you read any of her last few posts? | ||
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July 18 2012 19:59 GMT
#1428
On July 19 2012 04:58 Zealos wrote: And I don't really get the case on Gonzaw. Reading over his filter on its own, it really doesn't look all that Scummy to me. The constant claims of being unable to keep up with the thread seem to be the crux of the issue. | ||
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July 18 2012 20:19 GMT
#1434
On July 19 2012 05:16 Zealos wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2012 07:43 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 07:42 Kurumi wrote: On July 17 2012 07:41 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote: On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote: You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you? Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip. You are making this so easy. I am town. You "know" I am town. Why vote on me? ._. My point is that "if you are really a town player" you should be spending your resources to help me lynch syllo. You're not doing much to convince me right now. That is super odd to me. Clearly his logic makes no sense, and he's trying to buddy up to who he thinks will be an influential town player. LOL WUT LOL "an influential town player" Kurumi at that time? Are you fucking kidding me? Kurumi was caught scum and was self-destructing, and I figured on the off chance he was town I'd give him some advice on what to do before he died so that after the flip he'd look good. Are you even paying attention? Kurumi? Did you read the thread? Come on, man, there's tons of evidence against me, tons of qutoes you could use, and you used THAT ONE? Did you just quote a random post from me or what? Put some serious effort in. It's not THAT HARD. LOL | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 18 2012 20:20 GMT
#1435
man you're a real jokester. Chezinu aint got shit on you. QBZ should be the straight man for your stand-up that's all i'm saying. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 18 2012 20:22 GMT
#1440
On July 19 2012 05:21 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2012 05:19 Blazinghand wrote: On July 19 2012 05:16 Zealos wrote: On July 17 2012 07:43 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 07:42 Kurumi wrote: On July 17 2012 07:41 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote: On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote: You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you? Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip. You are making this so easy. I am town. You "know" I am town. Why vote on me? ._. My point is that "if you are really a town player" you should be spending your resources to help me lynch syllo. You're not doing much to convince me right now. That is super odd to me. Clearly his logic makes no sense, and he's trying to buddy up to who he thinks will be an influential town player. LOL WUT LOL "an influential town player" Kurumi at that time? Are you fucking kidding me? Kurumi was caught scum and was self-destructing, and I figured on the off chance he was town I'd give him some advice on what to do before he died so that after the flip he'd look good. Are you even paying attention? Kurumi? Did you read the thread? Come on, man, there's tons of evidence against me, tons of qutoes you could use, and you used THAT ONE? Did you just quote a random post from me or what? Put some serious effort in. It's not THAT HARD. LOL Calm down dude. If it's that ludicrous then don't bother responding. Respond to all the "tons of evidence against you" instead if you want to respond to anything. Yeah but that's a lot harder ;_; and it's easy to make fun of zealos' bad case, only takes like 30 seconds of typing. a lot more fun ._. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 18 2012 20:47 GMT
#1460
On July 19 2012 05:44 HiroPro wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2012 05:40 marvellosity wrote: pretty likely scum. from what i've seen he doesn't really afk as town yet he got himself modkilled as scum in LV for no apparent reason. Flip flopping on BH due to his self-vote past the deadline. Now I don't particularly like that either, but it's not like he didn't admit to it straight away. Then he's justifying his read with the crap about influential town Kurumi. clearly smacks of not reading the thread and if you're attempting to make a case knowing nothing about thread happenings then actually you're just shitting things up = scum. Everyone please read the last 3/4 page with Zealos and his filter. He's scum. I concur. I hate to OMGUS but I really can't see a town player doing what zealos did, which was to not read the thread, find someone who's a bit scummy and pressure him in a shitty way that reveals unwittingly that he hasn't been reading the thread at all. At first I just couldn't stop laughing at how bad it was, but it's just super clear Zealos is scum, so he'll have my vote come daybreak. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 18 2012 22:05 GMT
#1503
On July 19 2012 07:05 marvellosity wrote: ...because he'd certainly want to track himself to the post like that The post does literally contain his name in it. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 18 2012 22:07 GMT
#1506
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 18 2012 22:14 GMT
#1514
On July 19 2012 07:10 Kurumi wrote: Also I had only one nuke. spoken just like a scum who really wants to fire his second nuke | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 18 2012 23:16 GMT
#1536
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 00:37 GMT
#1595
##vote kurumi | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 05:31 GMT
#1653
On July 19 2012 14:25 Probulous wrote: Yes finding scum is our ultimate goal, but there are currently 9 scum running around. Three of which are in executive roles. Given we are killing a minion (Kurumi had a role) I think it prudent to try and ascertain the leadership but apparently that is "retarded". The problem is that trying to ascertain leadership is like there's a police shootout with some criminals and the Probulous is there and he's like "oh hey I wonder, are those bullets 7.62x39mm or 5.66x45mm?" and everyone else is like "SHUT UP JUST SHOOT" and he's like "why are you calling me retarded? I think it prudent to try and ascertain the caliber of these bullets " and is totally unaware that it's not possible to find out and not nearly as important as the objective at hand | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 05:39 GMT
#1655
On July 19 2012 14:36 Probulous wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2012 14:31 Blazinghand wrote: On July 19 2012 14:25 Probulous wrote: Yes finding scum is our ultimate goal, but there are currently 9 scum running around. Three of which are in executive roles. Given we are killing a minion (Kurumi had a role) I think it prudent to try and ascertain the leadership but apparently that is "retarded". The problem is that trying to ascertain leadership is like there's a police shootout with some criminals and the Probulous is there and he's like "oh hey I wonder, are those bullets 7.62x39mm or 5.66x45mm?" and everyone else is like "SHUT UP JUST SHOOT" and he's like "why are you calling me retarded? I think it prudent to try and ascertain the caliber of these bullets " and is totally unaware that it's not possible to find out and not nearly as important as the objective at hand Urgh. Whatever man. I would love to be able to just shutup and shoot but we can't. We can only kill one person per day. If I had my way, it would be the senior management, so I am focusing my scumhunting on senior players because I believe the hosts would not have put someone like Zealos (for example) as the CEO. Now is BM a senior player? I don't know, hence my question. To use your example, I am trying to take out the guy organising the killing, rather than the one reloading the guns. In my experience trying to base guesses on the metahost turns out poorly. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 16:08 GMT
#1720
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 16:30 GMT
#1724
On July 20 2012 01:28 supersoft wrote: hey palmar, is there a particular reason for this outburst of activity? As long as he's defending me I see no problem with it. It's not like there's anything else to do today but provide reads-- we're lynching Kurumi anyways. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 16:37 GMT
#1726
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=76576 His initial comments actually aren't that bad, viewed on their own-- he doesn't like chaos or chezinu, he calls out the bad day 1 reads thing, and he argues about about RL. But how much as he really added since that initial outburst of early game chatter? Well, He drops a vote on Kurumi with some minimal discussion, since Kurumi is basically scum D1. He explains his vote. And then... nothing. He drops a vote on austinmcc later as we get closer to the lynch deadline. That's everything Risk.Nuke has done. Now, I could imagine having a relatively quiet first half of D1, or maybe entire D1. But we're in D2 now, and after a whole night and nearly a third of D2, RN is unbelievably quiet. Why is that? It's not because he thinks there's nothing to talk about, I can assure you that-- he made a pretty long response to one of the opening posts when there was less activity: (link) Risk.Nuke is alarmingly inactive-- he's posted no analysis, no reads, nothing. Since the end of D1 he's made two posts: On July 19 2012 01:36 risk.nuke wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2012 01:19 syllogism wrote: I can't believe this game uses extended majority lynch. How was that a good idea Don't blame the system when the fault lies in a dumb unorganized town. On July 19 2012 21:38 risk.nuke wrote: We need to kill kurumi. For tomorrow I feel katina will bleed red. Will elaborate when I feel like it. The first one is worthless, and the second one is (in the first half) self evident and (in the second half) completely left hanging. What are you doing, risk.nuke? why so unhelpful? Why so lurk? why so scum? | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 17:40 GMT
#1734
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 17:41 GMT
#1735
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 18:14 GMT
#1745
On July 20 2012 03:12 marvellosity wrote: As one of the great town players of TL Mafia I refuse to believe you are this uninvolved with reading the thread as a townie. This really irks me. Didn't you pay attention in grammar school? Or are you tooting your own horn. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 18:21 GMT
#1747
On July 20 2012 03:16 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 03:14 Blazinghand wrote: On July 20 2012 03:12 marvellosity wrote: As one of the great town players of TL Mafia I refuse to believe you are this uninvolved with reading the thread as a townie. This really irks me. Didn't you pay attention in grammar school? Or are you tooting your own horn. ROFL. No, I was not referring to myself I think from now on I'll just refer to myself as "one of the great town players of TL Mafia" in grammatically ambiguous ways. I had an english teacher in 10th grade who beat the grammar into us so I pick up on these things. It happens in newspaper articles more than you think. "As a disgusting rubbish bin, Mitt Romney thinks recycling containers should have airtight lids" etc etc | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 19:02 GMT
#1757
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 19:09 GMT
#1761
On July 19 2012 05:19 Blazinghand wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2012 05:16 Zealos wrote: On July 17 2012 07:43 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 07:42 Kurumi wrote: On July 17 2012 07:41 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote: On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote: You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you? Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip. You are making this so easy. I am town. You "know" I am town. Why vote on me? ._. My point is that "if you are really a town player" you should be spending your resources to help me lynch syllo. You're not doing much to convince me right now. That is super odd to me. Clearly his logic makes no sense, and he's trying to buddy up to who he thinks will be an influential town player. LOL WUT LOL "an influential town player" Kurumi at that time? Are you fucking kidding me? Kurumi was caught scum and was self-destructing, and I figured on the off chance he was town I'd give him some advice on what to do before he died so that after the flip he'd look good. Are you even paying attention? Kurumi? Did you read the thread? Come on, man, there's tons of evidence against me, tons of qutoes you could use, and you used THAT ONE? Did you just quote a random post from me or what? Put some serious effort in. It's not THAT HARD. LOL On July 19 2012 05:47 Blazinghand wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2012 05:44 HiroPro wrote: On July 19 2012 05:40 marvellosity wrote: pretty likely scum. from what i've seen he doesn't really afk as town yet he got himself modkilled as scum in LV for no apparent reason. Flip flopping on BH due to his self-vote past the deadline. Now I don't particularly like that either, but it's not like he didn't admit to it straight away. Then he's justifying his read with the crap about influential town Kurumi. clearly smacks of not reading the thread and if you're attempting to make a case knowing nothing about thread happenings then actually you're just shitting things up = scum. Everyone please read the last 3/4 page with Zealos and his filter. He's scum. I concur. I hate to OMGUS but I really can't see a town player doing what zealos did, which was to not read the thread, find someone who's a bit scummy and pressure him in a shitty way that reveals unwittingly that he hasn't been reading the thread at all. At first I just couldn't stop laughing at how bad it was, but it's just super clear Zealos is scum, so he'll have my vote come daybreak. Case basically writes itself. Much kudos to HiroPro for staying on Zealos this whole time. Zealos should be the D3 lynch imo | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 19:12 GMT
#1762
On July 19 2012 05:26 Zealos wrote: I'll just go ahead and vote for BH at the start of day2 then leave you guys to it. bb, like, what? What about kurumi, what about making a real case, what about checking in on things or being remotely helpful? This is scum trying to skate by, every one of his choices this game is clearly undefendable from town motivation, but easily has scum motivation. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 19:29 GMT
#1764
On July 20 2012 04:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 04:02 Blazinghand wrote: I think Zealos is scum! The literal non-thread-reading and utter garbage that tries to look town but isn't makes him like my #1 scumread. Well that's nice to know, I'd appreciate if you wrote out a case. You're lucky to not be dying today so I think you should make some serious contributions to give people reasons to rethink their position on you. Just as an aside, it's okay if you think I'm a bit scummy, just check out Zealos-- he's clearly Captain Scummer McScummy of HMS Scummytowne. He needs to be lynched tomorrow and there's now two ways around it. I promise it won't take long, his filter is short. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 19:42 GMT
#1767
On July 20 2012 04:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 04:29 Blazinghand wrote: On July 20 2012 04:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 20 2012 04:02 Blazinghand wrote: I think Zealos is scum! The literal non-thread-reading and utter garbage that tries to look town but isn't makes him like my #1 scumread. Well that's nice to know, I'd appreciate if you wrote out a case. You're lucky to not be dying today so I think you should make some serious contributions to give people reasons to rethink their position on you. Just as an aside, it's okay if you think I'm a bit scummy, just check out Zealos-- he's clearly Captain Scummer McScummy of HMS Scummytowne. He needs to be lynched tomorrow and there's now two ways around it. I promise it won't take long, his filter is short. idk what to think about you anymore blazinghand, I had expected you to quietly slip away once the pressure was off of you but instead you've stuck around which is definitely points in your favor. You still may be scum but at this point there are a lot of people I'd rather lynch ahead of you. Excellent! I'll keep on hunting scum, and as long as I can find them fast enough I'll never get mislynched. I'm like a one of this hogs that are used to farm for truffles, except I know that if I don't find enough truffles I'll be turned into bacon instead! | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 19:54 GMT
#1769
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 20:54 GMT
#1780
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 21:02 GMT
#1784
On July 20 2012 06:00 Zealos wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 05:51 Kurumi wrote: GGQ I am very confident that GGQ is scum. His filter is not even one page long. (Actually 5 in-game posts.) "How can you say anything about the guy then, Kurumi?" Some of you have pointed out that Mafia's biggest objective is to survive. You can do it vanilla style - try to blend in during the discussion. You can do it lurker style - just avoid the fire and appear when everything's a little more silent... There's always false townie style, where you basically try to forget about your role and go with the flow while trying to keep in mind who's good target and who's not. As we've seen so far, being a lurker in this game is a GREAT option. We've been attacking each other like mad. If it wasn't an in-game attack, it was an attack on person her/himself. We've got a good player lurking like mad for no reason. It's already Day 2. If he was really occupied, guess what - he'd get replaced, just like two guys already, but he has no reason to ask for one. When I call him out that he is actively lurking(I am going to count how much it takes you to respond to this GGQ by the way) On July 17 2012 03:36 GGQ wrote: On July 17 2012 03:27 Kurumi wrote: On July 17 2012 03:25 GGQ wrote: On July 16 2012 19:13 Probulous wrote: So in essence I should have kept that to myself? I find it highly unlikely that mafia will be pushing strong reads day 1 given the setup. For two reasons, one they may be pushing one of their own, two they will be held accountable. So my thinking was to out to the thread so people are aware of it. Yes mafia are too but all this does is limit their options. How exactly does this help me further my agenda if I am mafia? My experience playing scum in two Sleeper Cell games tells me that this is the opposite of true. If you aren't burdened by knowledge of your teammates, it's much easier to come out strong on day 1. Why are you active lurking? wtf are you talking about? How does that answer sound to you? It's strict denial. He sees nothing wrong with his play. He feels no guilt. Why would he? There's a post by him in this quote too. He shares... a little of his knowledge... HE HAS PLAYED TWO DAMN SLEEPER CELL GAMES. Everything he has to tell us is that Mafia do whatever they please on Day 1. Solid advice here man. On July 17 2012 03:42 GGQ wrote: On July 17 2012 03:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 17 2012 03:27 Mattchew wrote: On July 17 2012 03:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 17 2012 03:13 Mattchew wrote: On July 17 2012 03:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: so mattchew lemme get this right, I'm scummy because I "seems to be trying to look sensible and not shitstorm causing." Umm... duh so basically I'm scum because I'm playing protown? That's some pretty wicked logic there. cause you are playing an easy to fake pro-town without actually doing anything pro-town That's bullshit and you know it lol. you have said the word "chaos" or talked about town stability in almost every post you have made. Did you elect yourself town peacekeeper? Because basically every one of your posts has extremely little to do with actually finding and lynching scum Actually I'm playing smart and waiting until I have a solid case before I go after someone. In contrast, you have your idiotic crusade against katina and that's it. Discussion should be currently centered around Palmar for his inability/refusal to play. BH should be a secondary consideration for his random wild play. And of course I still haven't forgot chez and the smurf, I'm interested to see if they start playing as well. This may come as a shock but it's not always a good idea to shit up the thread with random cases. My lack of a formal "case" is way better than your little spat with Katina. What? Why? What would that accomplish? How would that help us find scum? Palmar does that shit all the time. It's stupid and unhelpful but arguing about it has never changed him before and it won't now. ##vote blazinghand He tries to shift focus off from Palmar. He is defending him telling people that Palmar is just like that. That's what Palmar should've probably said, right? Look at how this post ends "has never changed him before and it won't now" it's a decisive NO. And this BH vote. He did explain it, right? On July 18 2012 11:24 GGQ wrote: Why did I vote BH without mentioning even a single word about him? To see what would happen, of course! Most people's responses were good; just asking me why or making little noises of disgust. The only one who tried to construe it as scummy was Austin the squirming mafia. Why did I vote BH at all? Because he was being active and throwing his vote around without doing anything and seemed very concerned with his own activity, as if it was justifying something. I believed and still believe he is scum. I get very bad vibes from HiroPro. His posts all feel like he's just putting in his time. There's a bunch of other possible mafias in my mind, but another day another noose. The case on gonzaw feels weaker than the one on austin to me. I prefer to lynch BH or austinmcc, but I'll switch before deadline if it's necessary to get a lynch. TO SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? Sounds like someone doesn't freaking care about the lynch? Wait, he does care, look at the last line! Why would a person with no thread presence try to defend Palmar? GGQ has NEVER said anything about Palmar. Never EVER. If you were searching for a guy trying to survive - here you go. Why would you lurk as Town in this game? With 1KP, Mafia has little power to do anything to stop you from acting. Sure, they might have roleblockers, maybe politicians or anti-nukers, but it's the cases which should win games. Palmar and Bill Murray are playing similar style, where they mostly post one-liners or troll material. Palmar just now started pushing layabout hard (without proper case, just some meta to back it up). GGQ has a lot of knowledge. It is Day 2 and he hasn't shared ANY of it. He is denying us information. No cases made, no activity in the thread, NOTHING. He is trying for his survival. If he comes guns blazing at any point in the game... I think you'll get it that he's scum. I am voting GGQ. ##vote GGQ Surely all these points can be made against me. So what makes him any more scummy than me? A valid point if you were townie. But you're not, you're the scummiest player alive behind Kurumi. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 21:08 GMT
#1788
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 21:13 GMT
#1792
+ Show Spoiler + On July 19 2012 07:22 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + This one is just silly. You're asking me what I think about a guy who replaced in, made roughly one post wherein he voted for the guy that "seemed to have a decent case on him"/"seemed most scummy recently," never voted in the votethread, never returned during the day, and, upon returning, has called kurumi an "influential town player."On July 19 2012 06:24 HiroPro wrote: VE/austin, please read pages 73-74 and tell me what you think of Zealos. Nobody can look at that and go - #1 town read! If he goes with his stated plan: Show nested quote + On July 19 2012 05:26 Zealos wrote: I'll just go ahead and vote for BH at the start of day2 then leave you guys to it. bb, then that's just pretty terrible and I'd love to see him lynched or shot. But tbh, all his scumminess seems to come from doing absolutely nothing. Like, less than minimal effort. Not posting. Not reading the thread. Not voting. That's a LOT of attention to call to oneself, to not vote. So even those his lack of contribution is scummy, I'd rather he's not up for lynch this cycle. We've already got scum in Kurumi, who we thought would die so didn't lynch yesterday, so there's 1 kill. I still think GGQ looks incredibly scummy, and i haven't seen anyone (there may have been one post in which someone just said "GGQ always plays like this") defend GGQ or call him town. So I don't see why that isn't kill #2. Just because he's "obvious" or "easy to build a case on," doesn't mean we shouldn't lynch him... That leaves Zealos, at the very least, third for me. So for now I'll find him scummy, but want to lynch others over him, and see if he actually contributes/reads thread/does anything. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 21:19 GMT
#1795
On July 20 2012 06:18 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + Less scummy than GGQ, but yeah. To me, GGQ is scum, and that read seems unlikely to change. Zealos is scummy, but with a possibility of that read changing? They're entering the game with different experience, and so even though they're both contributing about equally this game, I'm getting slightly different levels of scumread on them.On July 20 2012 06:13 Blazinghand wrote: austinmcc you still think Zealos is scum though right? That's a fair point. I suppose I should do a reread of GGQ to see what he's done this game, but if he's played the same way as Zealos, then he too must be scum. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 21:29 GMT
#1797
On July 20 2012 06:25 Zealos wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 06:08 Blazinghand wrote: So I guess that's Zealos' post for today. No response, huh/ Whats my proper response to you saying "You're most scummy behind kumrai?" "No, you're wrong" or you could literally contribute anything to the discussion rather than nothing which is you for the last like oh wait that's all you've done this game is nothing | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 21:33 GMT
#1799
On July 20 2012 06:31 Kurumi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 06:19 Blazinghand wrote: On July 20 2012 06:18 austinmcc wrote: On July 20 2012 06:13 Blazinghand wrote: Less scummy than GGQ, but yeah. To me, GGQ is scum, and that read seems unlikely to change. Zealos is scummy, but with a possibility of that read changing? They're entering the game with different experience, and so even though they're both contributing about equally this game, I'm getting slightly different levels of scumread on them.austinmcc you still think Zealos is scum though right? That's a fair point. I suppose I should do a reread of GGQ to see what he's done this game, but if he's played the same way as Zealos, then he too must be scum. Re-reading GGQ is quick, given that he has 5 posts, 2 of which have are shorter than 3 lines Yeah. Welp I must say his explanation for his vote and 30 hour silence on me are enormously underwhelming. What is it with shitty unexplainable bad votes and me this game? Have mafia just determined I look like an easy wagon to hide on? Lynch them both imo. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 22:30 GMT
#1801
Hello my minion, I need you to follow orders unlike the previous minion. You must protect Chezinu Isunizech, aka Mr. Walton, aka Power ranger, aka The Brown, aka Unizehc. If you cannot protect Chezinu, you must destroy his enemies. If you follow my orders, I can arrange protection for you. From, The Boss Man | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 22:33 GMT
#1802
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 22:35 GMT
#1806
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 22:39 GMT
#1813
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 22:42 GMT
#1817
On July 20 2012 07:36 Chezinu wrote: I wonder if there really is a house of Chezinu now.. I wasn't given the power to ##recruit so maybe not next game though, maybe! | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 22:44 GMT
#1822
On July 20 2012 07:41 supersoft wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 07:34 sandroba wrote: Man this is fun. I messaged Zealos yesterday before the day post. He never revealed he got pm. I just got confirmation that the pm was sent and Zealos has posted twice since then. So yeah fun times. okay noone does anything before sandroba confirms that this is a good plan: + Show Spoiler + let's kill zealos first, kurumi has no power today and we don't know what zealos has. agree? Oh I actually like this. Kurumi's already shot his wad, he's not doing shit anyways, and we also know he's not an executive of any sort since he had a power. He's the least useful member of the scumteam. We could go for Zealos first, then Kurumi later. I'd be down-- Zealos might have some sort of night power, such as mafia rolecop or framer or something so killing him has the chance to help-- and with Sandro's verdict he's just as scummy as Kurumi. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 22:46 GMT
#1826
On July 20 2012 07:44 Chezinu wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 07:42 VisceraEyes wrote: No upward or lateral communication Chez- are you claiming the other messenger PR? I don't even know what the PR stands for.. It stands for Public Relations. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 22:51 GMT
#1836
On July 20 2012 07:48 HiroPro wrote: I like the idea of killing Zealos before Kurumi. As do I. JUST TO REITERATE: I'm TOTALLY down to kill EITHER of these guys today. Both are fine to lynch. The other will be lynched tomorrow. Killing Zealos, however, cuts short one night of possible mafia PR usage, whereas Kurumi has already used his 1-shot nuke power. I will be around CONSTANTLY and am totally willing to go back to Kurumi to insure a lynch today. ##unvote ##vote: Zealos Let's do it. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 22:56 GMT
#1843
On July 20 2012 07:53 HiroPro wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 07:51 Blazinghand wrote: On July 20 2012 07:48 HiroPro wrote: I like the idea of killing Zealos before Kurumi. As do I. JUST TO REITERATE: I'm TOTALLY down to kill EITHER of these guys today. Both are fine to lynch. The other will be lynched tomorrow. Killing Zealos, however, cuts short one night of possible mafia PR usage, whereas Kurumi has already used his 1-shot nuke power. I will be around CONSTANTLY and am totally willing to go back to Kurumi to insure a lynch today. ##unvote ##vote: Zealos Let's do it. lynch is tomorrow isn't it? I mean today as in "this game day" On July 20 2012 07:54 supersoft wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 07:51 Blazinghand wrote: On July 20 2012 07:48 HiroPro wrote: I like the idea of killing Zealos before Kurumi. As do I. JUST TO REITERATE: I'm TOTALLY down to kill EITHER of these guys today. Both are fine to lynch. The other will be lynched tomorrow. Killing Zealos, however, cuts short one night of possible mafia PR usage, whereas Kurumi has already used his 1-shot nuke power. I will be around CONSTANTLY and am totally willing to go back to Kurumi to insure a lynch today. ##unvote ##vote: Zealos Let's do it. stop it! I didn't want exactly this chaos. We stick with kurumi, because he's more likely scum. + I am extremely afraid that his nukes reload. We're not gonna no-lynch, I'm around ALL THE DAMN TIME, I'll switch back to Kurumi instantly if needed. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 22:56 GMT
#1844
On July 20 2012 07:54 sandroba wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 07:52 supersoft wrote: On July 20 2012 07:50 sandroba wrote: Well we should just lynch kurumi to not give the hosts much trouble. I asked zealos to breacrumb if he had any powers in his posts and he didn't do anything so I assume no power. ah well he should have known that this wan't from his master. The masters should know the powers of the minions... good. We stick with kurumi then. Really? I can't find that in the OP. How do you know that? Oh shit is this a straight-up scumslips? Supersoft exec? | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 22:59 GMT
#1849
On July 20 2012 07:58 HiroPro wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 07:56 Blazinghand wrote: On July 20 2012 07:54 sandroba wrote: On July 20 2012 07:52 supersoft wrote: On July 20 2012 07:50 sandroba wrote: Well we should just lynch kurumi to not give the hosts much trouble. I asked zealos to breacrumb if he had any powers in his posts and he didn't do anything so I assume no power. ah well he should have known that this wan't from his master. The masters should know the powers of the minions... good. We stick with kurumi then. Really? I can't find that in the OP. How do you know that? Oh shit is this a straight-up scumslips? Supersoft exec? Pretty sure someone asked a question about that. Yeah it just got quoted like 3 seconds after I made that post, probably in an elaborate mafia plot to make me look stupid | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 22:59 GMT
#1850
On July 20 2012 07:58 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + That's all we know, I think?On July 06 2012 09:28 Protactinium wrote: On July 04 2012 10:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Will those at the top of the scum hierarchy know the powers of those at the bottom? They will know what exists, not who has what. You mean, that's all they know... | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 23:18 GMT
#1869
On July 20 2012 08:17 Bill Murray wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 08:11 Chezinu wrote: On July 20 2012 08:10 Bill Murray wrote: chez - they arent allowed to include names you just towntold my friend there can be code names obv. and grammar can be is are a signature! have you been using cryptography or only crazy He could easily be both. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 23:31 GMT
#1878
On July 20 2012 08:29 Probulous wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 01:32 Mattchew wrote: On July 20 2012 01:25 VisceraEyes wrote: Yes that post never came. After composing some of it and it being built up so by Probulous, I reread it and realized that most of it was stuff that had been mentioned or was drawing connections between people that didn't happen. So yeah, everyone can exhale - that post of "interesting things on reread" isn't coming. My reads post is gonna have to suffice. WAH WAH WAAAAAAH. Cool your scum too.... this is not that hard... woulda covered your tracks better without the wah wah waaaaaah This makes absolutely no sense...Like 0 Note to self: Risk has done nothing but defend himself and call people stupid. Yes! Someone else has noticed! Lower priority than Kurumi and Zealos though. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 19 2012 23:48 GMT
#1882
On July 20 2012 08:46 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 08:44 Probulous wrote: Does anyone still think BH is mafia? Cause for the life of me I can't believe that mafia would need a blocking ability if they have the only nuke. Given they only have six power roles, it would needlessly weaken them. We know town don't have a nuke because Kurumi is still alive. never underestimate the stupidity of townies my friend If there was anyone with a nuke they almost certainly would have already fired it at Kurumi by now. If it later turns out someone was sitting on a nuke / KP and didn't use it on Kurumi I'd be very surprised and alarmed. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 01:23 GMT
#1954
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 01:36 GMT
#1956
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 01:43 GMT
#1958
On July 20 2012 10:41 VisceraEyes wrote: I didn't say you're putting effort into railing on Zeal. I said you're putting effort into sounding like you're contributing. Which you are (putting in effort) but not (contributing). Also, your whole accusation is contradictory now...you said he's "putting in a lot of effort" and now you say "sounds like lazy scum". Have you fooled me to now BH? ARE you scum like people keep saying? Dude Obviously he's putting effort in now, just read his filter for D1, N1, and the first half of D2 and tell me he's not lazy scum. i double dog dare you | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 01:47 GMT
#1960
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 01:51 GMT
#1962
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 02:40 GMT
#1974
On July 20 2012 11:34 Katina wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 11:23 Probulous wrote: On July 20 2012 11:10 Katina wrote: This thread is so messy it's not even funny. Here's what needs to happen: Keep your votes on Kurumi. We are not going to spend the last day bringing up new candidates (Like Zealos) and throw the thread into complete chaos again then end up with another no lynch. There's hard evidence on Kurumi right now, let's not forget that. We will see what his flip is then go from therw. When D3 hits THEN will we start voting for other people who are Mafia. (Mattchew, Palmar, Foolishness, Blazinghand, etc) There has been roughly ten pages since I looked at the thread this morning and all the content in those pages say close to nothing about anything. It's all a bunch of derp and twerp that is continuing to keep the thread horrible cluttered and disorganized. I'm surprised to see that the veteran players (who are usually good at keep direction for the town) are sitting around doing nothing or contributing to the chaos as well. If this continues then this game will be fast and resulting in a for sure Mafia victory. Well that's a useless post. You basically come into the thread complaining that we have added no new information (false) and then proceed to add no new information yourself. Hipo-Creeeeeet First of all, read my post properly. I wasn't complaining that there wasn't any new information. I was stating that the thread is unorganized and that we shouldn't start throwing our votes all over the place again. We need to keep our votes focused on Kurumi today. "we" need to keep our votes focused on kurumi? The only guys on zealos are me and rasta, and I've explicitly stated my willingness to vote kurumi. I won't disappear from the thread. Also, do you really think there's no possible good argument for a zealos lynch instead of kurumi? because I think the argument that zealos may still have a power while kurumi certainly has used his up is a compelling one. We're lynching both of them anyways, why not lynch zealos first? ._. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 02:51 GMT
#1989
On July 20 2012 11:48 Katina wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 11:40 Blazinghand wrote: On July 20 2012 11:34 Katina wrote: On July 20 2012 11:23 Probulous wrote: On July 20 2012 11:10 Katina wrote: This thread is so messy it's not even funny. Here's what needs to happen: Keep your votes on Kurumi. We are not going to spend the last day bringing up new candidates (Like Zealos) and throw the thread into complete chaos again then end up with another no lynch. There's hard evidence on Kurumi right now, let's not forget that. We will see what his flip is then go from therw. When D3 hits THEN will we start voting for other people who are Mafia. (Mattchew, Palmar, Foolishness, Blazinghand, etc) There has been roughly ten pages since I looked at the thread this morning and all the content in those pages say close to nothing about anything. It's all a bunch of derp and twerp that is continuing to keep the thread horrible cluttered and disorganized. I'm surprised to see that the veteran players (who are usually good at keep direction for the town) are sitting around doing nothing or contributing to the chaos as well. If this continues then this game will be fast and resulting in a for sure Mafia victory. Well that's a useless post. You basically come into the thread complaining that we have added no new information (false) and then proceed to add no new information yourself. Hipo-Creeeeeet First of all, read my post properly. I wasn't complaining that there wasn't any new information. I was stating that the thread is unorganized and that we shouldn't start throwing our votes all over the place again. We need to keep our votes focused on Kurumi today. "we" need to keep our votes focused on kurumi? The only guys on zealos are me and rasta, and I've explicitly stated my willingness to vote kurumi. I won't disappear from the thread. Also, do you really think there's no possible good argument for a zealos lynch instead of kurumi? because I think the argument that zealos may still have a power while kurumi certainly has used his up is a compelling one. We're lynching both of them anyways, why not lynch zealos first? ._. It just takes one or two votes to switch to throw the whole town into confusion. If votes start switching there is no garauntee that enough people will switch off Kurumi to lynch Zealos then we will end up with another no lynch. We are all in agreement and have our votes placed. I never said there wasn't a good arguement to lynch Zealos now, Kurumi is basically confirmed scum. Why would we mess that up now to attempt to lynch Zealos who may or may not be an executive? There is no way to know how high up someone is.... The speculation that he might be an executive shouldn't be allowed to cloud our judgement. Mafia is Mafia, we need to start eliminating them now. We really cannot afford more confusion and vote switching chaos again. Wat you really don't know why we want to lynch zealos do you | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 04:59 GMT
#2021
On July 20 2012 13:58 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh yeah I read that. Figured you were still just being Chezinu. Honestly I thought it was painfully obvious I was joking about the block - I posted an MSPaint picture with it that BH drew for God's sake. I feel so betrayed | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 05:01 GMT
#2025
On July 20 2012 14:00 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 13:59 Blazinghand wrote: On July 20 2012 13:58 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh yeah I read that. Figured you were still just being Chezinu. Honestly I thought it was painfully obvious I was joking about the block - I posted an MSPaint picture with it that BH drew for God's sake. I feel so betrayed We're still buds. 4 lyfe. I just think you're on a different team this game. *shrug* Are you still down to lynch Kurumi and Zealos first? | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 05:03 GMT
#2028
On July 20 2012 14:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Absolutely. Unless town thinks otherwise. *highfive* So you're saying I have 4 IRL days before it's optimal to push me in which to find someone scummier than me! IM ON IT | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 05:07 GMT
#2032
On July 20 2012 14:06 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 14:03 Blazinghand wrote: On July 20 2012 14:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Absolutely. Unless town thinks otherwise. *highfive* So you're saying I have 4 IRL days before it's optimal to push me in which to find someone scummier than me! IM ON IT Good luck guy - that last bit with Zealos really pushed you up there for me BEFORE I reread Bugs. Your task is monumental - know that no mere lurker is going to suffice. I just need to find another Zealos! People thought I was next after Kurumi but they were wrong. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 05:22 GMT
#2044
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 05:25 GMT
#2048
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 05:32 GMT
#2055
On July 20 2012 14:30 VisceraEyes wrote: No, you're the town-aligned messenger aren't you Chez? Because if you flip, Sandroba is outted. Which means all the messages he sent were real messages. If he has Sandroba's role, it's valuable to the town and scum can't kill him because it'll mean giving up sandro, who must be the CEO if he's faking the messages, since he wouldn't want to accidentally pick scum at the wrong time. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 05:35 GMT
#2060
On July 20 2012 14:33 Chezinu wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 14:32 Blazinghand wrote: On July 20 2012 14:30 VisceraEyes wrote: No, you're the town-aligned messenger aren't you Chez? Because if you flip, Sandroba is outted. Which means all the messages he sent were real messages. If he has Sandroba's role, it's valuable to the town and scum can't kill him because it'll mean giving up sandro, who must be the CEO if he's faking the messages, since he wouldn't want to accidentally pick scum at the wrong time. So do you not think there are 3 workers in the department of communication? I don't know how many workers there are in the department of communication. But if you're saying Sandro doesn't work for you, and you're the director of communication, then who does he work for? | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 05:36 GMT
#2061
On July 20 2012 14:35 VisceraEyes wrote: There are - Sand could be one of the executives. My guess is that he bussed the shit out of Kurumi when he used his nuke. So your idea here is that kurumi scum, zealos town-- Sandro sets up a bus on Kurumi, then uses that cred to bury zealos. He might try to get a third mislynch out of it after zealos flips town claiming zealos played liek turds or whatever? | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 05:38 GMT
#2063
On July 20 2012 14:36 VisceraEyes wrote: OMG this is huge...this is big guy, Chez are you claiming town-aligned messenger? This is big because if you are I think I would rather lynch Sandroba than Zealos tomorrow. Given that the greater part of the Zealos case rests on Sandroba's use of his role, I must agree. I still don't like zealos though for his constant whining, but maybe he was just an easy target for scum. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 05:43 GMT
#2068
On July 20 2012 14:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Pssst...BH I'm ignoring you for the time being guy, did you not see my analysis? ;_; I just want to help | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 05:44 GMT
#2071
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 06:13 GMT
#2086
On July 20 2012 14:59 Probulous wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 14:44 Blazinghand wrote: Wait so did Chez message me? or was that some other guy? Sandro says it wasn't him. Are you claiming that you got messaged? Post it please. read thread | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 06:13 GMT
#2088
On July 20 2012 15:01 Chezinu wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 14:44 Blazinghand wrote: Wait so did Chez message me? or was that some other guy? Sandro says it wasn't him. wait a minute! I just realized... are you saying it is possible for me to message you even though you blocked me? or is your role solely nuke block? You messaged me today... | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 06:13 GMT
#2089
On July 20 2012 15:13 Blazinghand wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 15:01 Chezinu wrote: On July 20 2012 14:44 Blazinghand wrote: Wait so did Chez message me? or was that some other guy? Sandro says it wasn't him. wait a minute! I just realized... are you saying it is possible for me to message you even though you blocked me? or is your role solely nuke block? You messaged me today... Or rather, someone claiming to be you messaged me today. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 16:28 GMT
#2180
On July 20 2012 23:53 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 23:45 HiroPro wrote: On July 20 2012 14:38 Blazinghand wrote: On July 20 2012 14:36 VisceraEyes wrote: OMG this is huge...this is big guy, Chez are you claiming town-aligned messenger? This is big because if you are I think I would rather lynch Sandroba than Zealos tomorrow. Given that the greater part of the Zealos case rests on Sandroba's use of his role This is so wrong... It's not even that it's wrong, it's the fact that PRIOR to the PM thing with Zealos coming to light, BH had branded him scum... "Zealos should be our D3 lynch", "you are the scummiest player alive after Kurumi" among other shizzle. Now most of the case is on the sandroba use of his role? Does not compute. # of people who liked my case against zealos before sandro got involved: like, 3 # of people who liked my case against zealos after sandro got involved: literally everyone | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 16:51 GMT
#2185
On July 21 2012 01:43 HiroPro wrote: Show nested quote + On July 21 2012 01:28 Blazinghand wrote: On July 20 2012 23:53 marvellosity wrote: On July 20 2012 23:45 HiroPro wrote: On July 20 2012 14:38 Blazinghand wrote: On July 20 2012 14:36 VisceraEyes wrote: OMG this is huge...this is big guy, Chez are you claiming town-aligned messenger? This is big because if you are I think I would rather lynch Sandroba than Zealos tomorrow. Given that the greater part of the Zealos case rests on Sandroba's use of his role This is so wrong... It's not even that it's wrong, it's the fact that PRIOR to the PM thing with Zealos coming to light, BH had branded him scum... "Zealos should be our D3 lynch", "you are the scummiest player alive after Kurumi" among other shizzle. Now most of the case is on the sandroba use of his role? Does not compute. # of people who liked my case against zealos before sandro got involved: like, 3 # of people who liked my case against zealos after sandro got involved: literally everyone That is not what you said at all. You were not referring to support for the case. You said that the case itself rested mostly on sandroba's role usage, but that is completely false, with what you yourself said before. You have everything about Zealos pointing to scum. You have confirmed town in WBG calling zealos "almost confirmed scum". And then all of sudden, doubts about sandroba make you think Zealos was just "an easy target"? I don't buy it. Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 04:12 Blazinghand wrote: Like, I wish I could write MORE on Zealos, but his strategy this entire game has been to never post except to show up and call things "odd" and "weird" and then dissappear and lurk more. His attack on me is scummy as dicks, and then this: On July 19 2012 05:26 Zealos wrote: I'll just go ahead and vote for BH at the start of day2 then leave you guys to it. bb, like, what? What about kurumi, what about making a real case, what about checking in on things or being remotely helpful? This is scum trying to skate by, every one of his choices this game is clearly undefendable from town motivation, but easily has scum motivation. Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 14:38 Blazinghand wrote: On July 20 2012 14:36 VisceraEyes wrote: OMG this is huge...this is big guy, Chez are you claiming town-aligned messenger? This is big because if you are I think I would rather lynch Sandroba than Zealos tomorrow. Given that the greater part of the Zealos case rests on Sandroba's use of his role, I must agree. I still don't like zealos though for his constant whining, but maybe he was just an easy target for scum. I meant it the other way. For what it's worth, my vote is still on Zealos, so clearly I think he's still as scummy or scummier than Kurumi. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 17:21 GMT
#2188
On July 21 2012 02:16 Foolishness wrote: Show nested quote + On July 21 2012 02:01 rastaban wrote: On July 21 2012 01:49 Foolishness wrote: On July 21 2012 01:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: On July 21 2012 01:14 Foolishness wrote: On July 21 2012 00:57 Palmar wrote: your persistence is amazing kurumi. Did I mention katina is scum? How about you look into her? Don't trash one of the few people that's making sense this game. looool Your contributions to this game have been overwhelming foolishness, I have seen the light and realized that katina is indeed valuable to the town. How could I have not seen this before... riiiiiight. Anyway we need to all make sure kurumi dies today. There's no excuse if he somehow wiggles out of this again. People need to remember this, it doesn't matter what alignment sandroba is at this point, kurumi got caught hook line and sinker. It'd be actually retarded if he somehow gets away. It's great to discuss more potential lynch targets but everyone needs to make sure the kurumi lynch happens today. I've seen a couple people call him town in the last couple pages (cough rastaban cough) this is just grossly negligent failure to read the thread, don't let this sentiment somehow take hold. Again, if you think about it, it doesn't matter which side sandro is on for kurumi to be scum. Well you should have seen it a lot of earlier. Can you give me a name of someone who makes more sense? I can only think of two people in which you can make an argument for. It's fine to discuss potential lynch targets, the issue is that it is day two and literally every player has been accused. There's absolutely zero focus. One page people are talking about Zealos, 3 pages later it's about Chezinu. With so many cases it's hard to tell who is actually trying to make a case (townies) and who's just fueling the fire (mafia). From what I can see though the people of interest in this regard are Blazinghand (should be obvious by now), marvellosity, and HiroPro. supersoft, Mattchew, Probulous, Palmar and yourself are somewhat guilty but not to the same extent. Other than BM where should the focus be? Don't you beleive that Kurumi and Zealos are scum? We have BH after both of them. I am confused on what you want to focus on, is their more to discuss on these 3 players? I am just confused as to what you mean by wanting to focus. It seems to me that town is pretty agreed on the next, 2 if not 3 lynches. Clearly there's still plenty more to discuss as the number of times I've seen a unique "Player X should be our day 3 lynch" is substantial. Kurumi yes (that's why I've voted for him), Blazinghand yes, Bill Murray yes, Zealos I'm not convinced at all. Frankly there's no real case against him. You and blazinghand and Kurumi (as well as a few others) have all claimed he's mafia but have yet to provide more than a single sentence explanation. It was the same thing that happened with austin yesterday; nobody really made a case against him, everyone just decided to sheep along with one persons' thoughts and jump ship. Until someone actually makes a case there's no reason why Zealos should be getting killed. LIES LIES AND SLANDER On July 20 2012 04:09 Blazinghand wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2012 05:19 Blazinghand wrote: On July 19 2012 05:16 Zealos wrote: On July 17 2012 07:43 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 07:42 Kurumi wrote: On July 17 2012 07:41 Blazinghand wrote: On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote: On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote: You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you? Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip. You are making this so easy. I am town. You "know" I am town. Why vote on me? ._. My point is that "if you are really a town player" you should be spending your resources to help me lynch syllo. You're not doing much to convince me right now. That is super odd to me. Clearly his logic makes no sense, and he's trying to buddy up to who he thinks will be an influential town player. LOL WUT LOL "an influential town player" Kurumi at that time? Are you fucking kidding me? Kurumi was caught scum and was self-destructing, and I figured on the off chance he was town I'd give him some advice on what to do before he died so that after the flip he'd look good. Are you even paying attention? Kurumi? Did you read the thread? Come on, man, there's tons of evidence against me, tons of qutoes you could use, and you used THAT ONE? Did you just quote a random post from me or what? Put some serious effort in. It's not THAT HARD. LOL Show nested quote + On July 19 2012 05:47 Blazinghand wrote: On July 19 2012 05:44 HiroPro wrote: On July 19 2012 05:40 marvellosity wrote: pretty likely scum. from what i've seen he doesn't really afk as town yet he got himself modkilled as scum in LV for no apparent reason. Flip flopping on BH due to his self-vote past the deadline. Now I don't particularly like that either, but it's not like he didn't admit to it straight away. Then he's justifying his read with the crap about influential town Kurumi. clearly smacks of not reading the thread and if you're attempting to make a case knowing nothing about thread happenings then actually you're just shitting things up = scum. Everyone please read the last 3/4 page with Zealos and his filter. He's scum. I concur. I hate to OMGUS but I really can't see a town player doing what zealos did, which was to not read the thread, find someone who's a bit scummy and pressure him in a shitty way that reveals unwittingly that he hasn't been reading the thread at all. At first I just couldn't stop laughing at how bad it was, but it's just super clear Zealos is scum, so he'll have my vote come daybreak. Case basically writes itself. Much kudos to HiroPro for staying on Zealos this whole time. Zealos should be the D3 lynch imo On July 20 2012 04:12 Blazinghand wrote: Like, I wish I could write MORE on Zealos, but his strategy this entire game has been to never post except to show up and call things "odd" and "weird" and then dissappear and lurk more. His attack on me is scummy as dicks, and then this: Show nested quote + On July 19 2012 05:26 Zealos wrote: I'll just go ahead and vote for BH at the start of day2 then leave you guys to it. bb, like, what? What about kurumi, what about making a real case, what about checking in on things or being remotely helpful? This is scum trying to skate by, every one of his choices this game is clearly undefendable from town motivation, but easily has scum motivation. That plus Sandro's claim against him, whatever credibility you hold in Sandro, is the Zealos case | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 17:31 GMT
#2192
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 17:41 GMT
#2198
On July 21 2012 02:38 VisceraEyes wrote: I find it interesting that you didn't take issue with the FIRST assumption, that if he is UNABLE, then he's certainly scum bussing his department...which is more of an empirical statement and actually more of an assumption. :/ I'd like everyone's thoughts plz. Lynch Zeal + Kuru, but in the meantime test sandro (since one or both could be bus) | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 17:43 GMT
#2200
On July 21 2012 02:41 sandroba wrote: Rofl, I can't believe the retardation going on in the last pages. And no I'm not going to message a person you choose. If you want to find out if I'm mafia or not without using your heads I guess you are going to have to lynch me. I don't like your attitude in this post. Shouldn't you be wanting to be as confirmed-townie as possible? | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 17:46 GMT
#2203
On July 21 2012 02:45 sandroba wrote: I don't like your lack of logic. I guess we are even. Well. I'm just saying, one of us is like a super baller town leader who's helping town to supposedly get 2 good lynches, and the other is sandro and should stop being butthurt and help the town | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 18:12 GMT
#2212
On July 21 2012 03:10 Foolishness wrote: Show nested quote + On July 21 2012 02:45 HiroPro wrote: You know what I find interesting Foolishness? The fact that Kurumi's response to sandroba's message is enough for you to kill him, but Zealos's response to sandroba's message isn't even worth mentioning in your read. Your "case" against him is taking things completely out of context. Zealos said early on he didn't like the BH lynch cause it was overtunneled and had weak reasons. He changed his opinion later on and he even said so and gave a reason why. I'm pretty sure I can find at least two other people who didn't like the BH lynch at first either but then changed their minds later (Probulous and VE come to my mind, correct me if I'm wrong though). What's the rest of your case about? It seems to me to be all about not voting BH and then deciding to vote him. He clearly explained himself (yeah I agree not the best explanation in the world, but you're nitpicking at nothing). Again, post a case otherwise there's no reason to be talking about lynching this guy. Don't forget the parts where he's not doing anything helpful and then gets outed by sandro. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 18:20 GMT
#2216
On July 21 2012 03:18 austinmcc wrote: - Kurumi's PM said to do something, which he did - Zealos didn't say anything about his PM The responses are different. Kurumi obeyed a PM when we didn't know anyone but mafia could send messages. Zealos didn't mention his PM, and either hasn't read thread or is pretending not to read thread and know about Sandroba's claim, and either didn't understand that the message sounded like mafia orders or is pretending not to understand what it sounded like. the natural response, as a townie, if you received a PM that looked like orders, is to post it to the thread. why would you do anything but that? The only reason you wouldn't is if you were scum and you thought those orders were for you. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 18:23 GMT
#2219
On July 21 2012 03:21 Foolishness wrote: Show nested quote + On July 21 2012 03:12 Blazinghand wrote: On July 21 2012 03:10 Foolishness wrote: On July 21 2012 02:45 HiroPro wrote: You know what I find interesting Foolishness? The fact that Kurumi's response to sandroba's message is enough for you to kill him, but Zealos's response to sandroba's message isn't even worth mentioning in your read. Your "case" against him is taking things completely out of context. Zealos said early on he didn't like the BH lynch cause it was overtunneled and had weak reasons. He changed his opinion later on and he even said so and gave a reason why. I'm pretty sure I can find at least two other people who didn't like the BH lynch at first either but then changed their minds later (Probulous and VE come to my mind, correct me if I'm wrong though). What's the rest of your case about? It seems to me to be all about not voting BH and then deciding to vote him. He clearly explained himself (yeah I agree not the best explanation in the world, but you're nitpicking at nothing). Again, post a case otherwise there's no reason to be talking about lynching this guy. Don't forget the parts where he's not doing anything helpful and then gets outed by sandro. Here's a list of people who aren't doing anything helpful: Sloosh, HiroPro, Bill Murray, MZ, austin, syllogism, GGQ, yourself, Kurumi, Mattchew, marvellosity, risk,nuke, Qbertz, Palmar, and Zealos. Hardly a reason to be killing Zealos when I can easily say the same thing about any of the above players. Furthermore from what I understand sandroba sent him a message and he didn't post it. From his filter it's quite clear to me the guy has no idea what's going on in the game, I don't see anything unnatural about how he handled the situation. Dumb/bored townie != mafia. AND he hasn't been reading the thread. Are all of these things just coincidences in your mind? Is Zealos just magically at the crossroads of all these scummy behaviors and patterns, each of which, sure, might individually happen t a townie, but all of which together point towards scum? It's like if you walk by someone and they make a weird face, ok, fine, but if you walk by 10 people and they all make weird faces it's time to check your deoderant | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 18:25 GMT
#2220
On July 21 2012 03:23 Foolishness wrote: sandroba didn't send Kurumi a PM Show nested quote + On July 19 2012 02:49 sandroba wrote: Yes I am denying it. I didn't message kurumi. There are 9 mafia in this game so I guess I'm one short I'm sorry. And yes I didn't know katina was mafia for sure until her recent post that says she is mafia. Please teach me so I can do better. Even more reason to lynch Zealos instead! | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 18:36 GMT
#2228
On July 21 2012 03:34 syllogism wrote: Stop arguing with mafia, in particular Foolishness. Katina how come you don't want to lynch Foolishness tomorrow? Because she's mafia with him. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 18:57 GMT
#2236
On July 21 2012 03:51 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + On July 21 2012 03:46 sandroba wrote: And by the way, 2 people messaged kurumi. Me on day1 and someone who is not chezinu on night 1 (chezinu messaged wbg). No. Chezinu said that he did NOT message WBG Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 14:41 Chezinu wrote: For instance, I knows I didn't write no message to WBG.. and sand no wrote a message to WBG... so who R did? Chezinu, as far as I can tell, has claimed to message: D1 - ? N1 - BH D2 - VE I think? Slightly unsure of the timing on the BH message. I received my PM near the beginning of D2. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 20:19 GMT
#2252
##unvote ##vote: kurumi | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 21:08 GMT
#2281
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 21:12 GMT
#2287
On July 21 2012 06:11 VisceraEyes wrote: Wait town-cred is like..meaningless in this setup isn't it? :/ Okay I'm willing to wait on Sandro. I really wish he'd confirm that he can send messages to townies though, because his aim is bordering on too phenomenal to be earnest. Well, even if Kurumi was a non-obvious choice, Zealos was a solid one, and he has 1/3 chance of hitting scum. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 21:39 GMT
#2312
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 22:16 GMT
#2328
##unvote ##vote: sandroba | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 22:30 GMT
#2342
On July 21 2012 07:30 supersoft wrote: Show nested quote + On July 21 2012 07:28 austinmcc wrote: On July 21 2012 07:20 VisceraEyes wrote: I want to eliminate Executives. I think Sandroba is the Director of Marketing or the Chairman of the Board. And Austinmcc isn't bad. He's paranoid, and now I am too. + Show Spoiler + hatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshats!hats!hats! why do you guys even want to eleminate executives. I thought they have no powers?! They have the best powers, communication | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 23:36 GMT
#2365
On July 21 2012 08:35 Katina wrote: Show nested quote + On July 21 2012 07:16 Blazinghand wrote: I'm crazy! I'll do it! ##unvote ##vote: sandroba Okay, really? Anyone who says this guy shouldn't be our D3 lynch should seriously consider going back to some newbie games... He knows he's Mafia. He's only doing this because he's so obviously guilty. What? No. You're ignoring the possibility of Kurumi flipping scum. If Sandro IS somehow legit, then Zealos is also scum. What is it with you and trying to lynch me in literally every game we play together? ._. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 20 2012 23:39 GMT
#2367
On July 21 2012 08:37 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On July 21 2012 08:35 Katina wrote: On July 21 2012 07:16 Blazinghand wrote: I'm crazy! I'll do it! ##unvote ##vote: sandroba Okay, really? Anyone who says this guy shouldn't be our D3 lynch should seriously consider going back to some newbie games... He knows he's Mafia. He's only doing this because he's so obviously guilty. I'm inclined to agree, but I REALLY REALLY want to lynch Executives. This inter-office communication bullshit is gonna continue to be convoluted and confusing. Katina, do you think I'm insane for thinking sandroba is scum? If so, please tell me nicely. Look, I think it's pretty clear what's gonna happen. Either Kurumi flips scum and we lynch zealos tomorrow, or Kurumi flips town and we lynch Sandro tomorrow. I don't see how it could possibly be optimal to lynch me tomorrow. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 21 2012 00:35 GMT
#2416
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 21 2012 00:37 GMT
#2420
On July 21 2012 09:35 Foolishness wrote: Show nested quote + On July 21 2012 09:28 VisceraEyes wrote: On July 21 2012 09:26 Foolishness wrote: On July 21 2012 09:23 VisceraEyes wrote: The CEO likely doesn't know who picked what Chez. He probably gets a list and is made to choose one from the list, as it says in (under) the OP. I'm in the "Lynch Foolishness" camp tomorrow. So you think Blazinghand is town then? No I think Blazinghand is less likely to flip Executive than you. That's the most ridiculous thing ever. Blazinghand has practically admitted he is mafia and you're just going to let him run around in hopes of hitting executives? That's like a sane DT getting a red check and you don't kill the guy cause you think he's a miller (hilariously enough this happened in my first mafia game here...care to guess which side won?). You can't ignore the players who have lots of good analysis against them (Blazinghand, Bill Murray, syllogism and austin and GGQ to some extent, etc) in the hopes of sniping an executive. That's just paving the way for a mafia victory; any competent person will tell you that. I've never admitted I'm mafia, I've been helping the town. Do I have a fair amount of one-liners and quips? yeah, sure. Do I also have solid cases in my filter? YES. Because I'm helping the damn town | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 21 2012 00:37 GMT
#2422
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 21 2012 18:25 GMT
#2480
On July 22 2012 03:21 supersoft wrote: palmars performance so far is extremely poor that's true... However sandrobas scumrevealingpower makes one feel like it's unnecessary to analyze players. I don't think that would stop a town palmar from doing analysis and scumhunting. Palmar isn't the type to blindly rely on an unconfirmed Follow the Cop strategy-- town Palmar is plain about his reads pushes, things aggressively, and openly scumhunts. He's also highly active. This departure from his meta isn't ENORMOUS (like, say, in purgatory where he barely posted as scum) but it's THERE. It's not like Palmar is an utterly incompetent scum player, I'm sure he's trying to mask his scum meta. He just hasn't done a perfect job of it, and we would be unwise to ignore it. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 21 2012 19:34 GMT
#2491
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 21 2012 19:35 GMT
#2494
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 21 2012 23:00 GMT
#2556
On July 22 2012 07:55 layabout wrote: What is all of this about BH that i seem to have missed? Apparently I'm to be lynched tomorrow rather, than, say, Zealos. | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
July 22 2012 05:53 GMT
#2615
From, The Boss Man" | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
August 02 2012 17:07 GMT
#4478
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Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
August 03 2012 15:30 GMT
#4490
In terms of the setup, this was an amazing marathon, especially as it got nearer to the end. I'm wondering if some sort of scum Called Shot KP, or something, might have been good, if only because, as Palmar noted, several strong players were allowed to live. Perhaps an alternative NK mechanic would work as well? | ||
Blazinghand
United States25545 Posts
August 03 2012 15:37 GMT
#4492
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