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rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 14:19 GMT
#3834
Gentlemen Stoke the fires, Beat your plowsharesCoffee Mugs into swords, its time to murder someone. Listen to me I say, I am your neighborhood nosy employee and every day instead of doing my job I snoop on someone. I get any messages going to or from that person during the day.

Here is my breadcrumb:
On July 22 2012 04:57 rastaban wrote:
I was snooping through some of the experienced players filters
Syllogism is town it is pretty obvious
Foolishness I'm sorry I doubted you for a bit. I forgot last game we played together mafia's ploy was to get you lynched. I am convinced your town now so let's work together. You are posting just like you did then with distant for poor town play an focusing on finding scum. I like it!

Not sure on ggq yet, time for more research!
Chezinu and sandroba are obviously town.
BM is so different from himself he must be scum.


If I died I had hoped people would check my filter to see who I had snooped on, it wasn't so much about confirming them as much as at least getting a bit more information out to town. As you can tell it was Sylo and Foolishness. Foolishness I figured wouldn't have been a hench man, so I knew he would message every time he had the option to, if he was scum. Sadly I misunderstood when it said that Executives couldn't have powers, and thought that Godfather would be considered a power even if it was passive. So when he flipped scum I started PMing the host until I saw that he was immune. Sorry guys, The funny thing is if I had waited a little longer I would have seen the flip and avoided that catastrophic post.

Next up I checked out Q-Bert-Z, knowing he was inactive and possibly becoming more inactive I checked him so that we could hopefully ignore him and just use him as an extra town vote while he was gone. No message from him came about, combined with BM confirming that he had no day ability I think he is town, or at least we should save him till last if we can't find someone else guilty. Now my checks aren't perfect as getting no messages doesn't clear someone completely, and it is less useful on minions as they get PMmed less often.
Now sadly I am very poor at guessing scum, or at least targets who message and my Sylo, Foolish, Q-Bert-Z, trio netted me zilch. As you may notice my plan was to target the more experienced players that I thought wouldn't be lynched soon.

Guess what I got a message today. I decided maybe VE is right to be paranoid, so under the guise of friendship I stuck my nose in my best friends business when lo and behold I noticed a message. Now let me tell you friends this I expected, as he had been open about his dealing with other players. But remember friends I am a snooper, I Picked up the fairly comical letter and decided to go make a copy and that is when I saw it. A crumpled piece of paper, part of it had been burned so I couldn't make out the full message, but some remained intact. Was he sending this message or receiving it? Either way it didn't matter. I had been told he could only send one message, and their was no one else who could send them except that awful guy in the board of marketing. This man I trusted and had called friend, was either was the chairman of marketing or else he was taking orders from him! I then realized the chairman certainly couldn't have sent the first message so this man was working for marketing, How sublime to catch him red handed, though I cried dark viscous black tears from the cold heartless betrayal he had plied upon me!

I thought to wait to share what I had to save my own skin, but then I realized my time here at PCP has not been very helpful, I have been a nosy but lackluster employee. Perhaps I could die tonight and save someone who though lacking in powers was much more useful like a sylo and with only 1-3 names even sent I doubt I am on the list anyway. I decided that the more time to discuss this the better. Also only one man remains who can message

So I give to you my friends the name of this rogue, this vagabond, this harlot of marketing and his name is not Walton but CHEZINU!!!

I will give you the second message, the recipient of the first message can reveal it if they would like but as it has nothing game relevant and was merely trolling I will ignore it:

---Message Partially Censored---
I'm lonely. Figure it out.

I don't know what it means, but really the fact that their was another message is the incriminating part. So Chez will you deny that you got two messages or will you come up with a reason for it?


Addendum i.e. clues to chezinu's alignment supported by the above
VE was right, why switch up playstyles when what he was doing was winning? Why did he not use his power to out mafia but save himself from supposed town head VE (paranoid) Look at how Sandroba used his power and then how chez used his. Why is chez still alive if he had all this power? Why did mafia use the keyword Chaos all the time, just like chez? Why was Foolishness the only veteran experienced player on the Scum team?

So many questions so few answers.


Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 14:29 GMT
#3835
Addendum 2:
Also the missed messages, most likely they were to scum thats why their are so many he didn't claim. This was how they would be able to upwardly communicate but it would be risky since he didn't know if scum would get them or town.

Time to claim where they went Chezinu. Who got those messages you sent but didn't want to reveal, you might die now, better share that information. And the first message you sent was not a will, so tell town who they were.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 14:37 GMT
#3838
I'm lonely. Figure it out.

What could this mean? It is from the Marketing Director. Perhaps he is trying to give chez a clue to

Ahah I just figured it out. It was a clue for Chez to message the director of marketing. I lied the second PM did factor in the Director of Marketing is:
Katina
Beloved Katina,

I know you were surprised at my alignment. I really enjoyed looking at that photo of you with your pants on your head. However, I am dead now. Speaking from the grave, I urge you to keep playing though I am not with you. I know you only enjoy playing the game because I am there. I am sorry for not logging out of my account every time I use your laptop, I simply just forget. Please forgive me. I don't want to fight with my sweet darling. Once this game is over, I hope we can play again together in a game where we are lovers. I would like you to know that I will always be there for you. See you soon in RL.

Love,
The Fool that is in love with you!
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 14:37 GMT
#3839
On July 27 2012 23:34 austinmcc wrote:
Wait...you used your power on Chez. You saw that he either sent or received a message that says "I'm lonely. Figure it out." That's it? No more?

Chez claimed he was a "Bossy Employee." As in:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 09:12 Protactinium wrote:
Bossy Employee
You are the bully of the office! Although you have no official titles, you like exercising power. Your fellow coworkers become terrified with your mere presence. Once per half cycle, you may attempt to boss around any employee of your choice. To use this power, you must PM me with whatever message you wish to send, along with the name of your target employee. Your target will not be informed of your identity, and is under no obligation to comply with your orders. I reserve the right to censor your message if deemed inappropriate. Feel free to clarify anything with me if you have any questions. You win with the town for some reason.
The role doesn't say one message, the role is 2 messages per cycle...

Multiple messages fits his role perfectly. Don't know if fakeclaim or outted self because of bad math.

Right once per half cycle, Both message were in the day half cycle.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 14:39 GMT
#3840
I have no problem being lyched to confirm my role. We are so far ahead that if it means we kill Katina and Chezinu I would gladly take that trade :D
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 14:43 GMT
#3843
On July 27 2012 23:34 syllogism wrote:
That's a very confusing post, so could you very clearly state what your role told about chezinu? I suppose letting him answer first might be better.

I may have to actually read his filter. I agree that the way he has been using his power is very strange and suboptimal.

My role just gives me any messages from or to that person during the day cycle. I don't know which is which but it is easy to deduce.

He sent the second message I posted to Katina after he had received the first one which was the director trying to give him a clue so they could start discussing things together.

Both messages were in the last day cycle, I only get them once night starts, I confirmed that it was 2 separate messages. Also the Bossy role gets 1 message a half cycle (during the day) both couldn't be from that role as I thought this too before going public. The censored message was hoe the recipient received it, thats all I know.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 14:44 GMT
#3845
On July 27 2012 23:42 syllogism wrote:
So you are saying Chezinu received the "I am lonely, figure it out" message and sent the latter?

Yeah, I didn't think they were related at first, but it makes sense when I realized the short one had to be from the director. And why would they waste it on such a stupid message unless it was a clue. Then Chez solved it for me when I realized that is why he made that troll post.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 14:45 GMT
#3846
On July 27 2012 23:44 syllogism wrote:
Well this seems pretty clear then, perhaps gonzaw isn't mafia after all, somehow. That would be a shame though.

Well there is still one left right
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 14:47 GMT
#3847
On July 27 2012 23:42 austinmcc wrote:
I'm laughing too hard at that second message to think straight about this.

LOL, even if he hadn't been scum it would have been worth wasting my power to catch that PM
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 14:54 GMT
#3850
On July 27 2012 23:50 syllogism wrote:
That would explain why katina wanted to lynch gonzaw today. At first glance most things do seem to make sense with chezinu/q-bert-z/katina as the remaining mafia. Why is Chezinu mentioned on the OP? Why does it say he is a reporter when he claims his role is Bossy Employee?

OP was written before He /in I beleive.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 14:56 GMT
#3852
On July 27 2012 23:52 marvellosity wrote:
so, who is it best play to lynch today?

I would say Chez, as it also verifies I am not lying. Katina could flip town if the clue was misinterpreted (very Unlikely) and it wouldn't give as much info on chez and I.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 14:58 GMT
#3855
On July 27 2012 23:56 marvellosity wrote:
also rastaban, that does explain that Foolishness comment you made. I really thought that was the weirdest shit for you to write.


LOL, yeah I wanted to embelish so it didn't look like a breadcrumb too obviously unless viewed after my death. However he was scum and so I ended up looking "foolish" hur hur
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 15:02 GMT
#3856
Also, why is it that QbertZ is being thought to be the final scum?
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 15:10 GMT
#3862
On July 28 2012 00:06 HiroPro wrote:
Wait, so the second message that you said was just trolling is the Katina one?

Yeah, I thought he was just trolling, until I realized it was him sending that to Katina to show he had guessed the clue sent. Even if he was wrong the recipient wouldn't know about the short censored message and would think that chez was just trolling, but really he was fishing for the director.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 15:54 GMT
#3866
More proof, in light of my accusations Walton was forced to resign!!!
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowldc/cnns-jim-walton-resigns_b79823

Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 16:58 GMT
#3873
On July 28 2012 01:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also if Chez flips town (I think he should be our lynch tomorrow for the x6) we should IMMEDIATELY flip rastaban for lying to our faces.

I agree, I can go first, but I really want to keep our streak up if possible
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 17:03 GMT
#3875
Katina above has confirmed the one message, so we now know I am at least not lying about one of them. And the other message fits into the context. I am interested to see what story Chezinu comes up with to justify receiving a message, or will he deny that it ever occurred?
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 17:11 GMT
#3877
I posted it further down once I realized it actually did apply. here is is
On July 27 2012 23:37 rastaban wrote:
I'm lonely. Figure it out.

What could this mean? It is from the Marketing Director. Perhaps he is trying to give chez a clue to

Ahah I just figured it out. It was a clue for Chez to message the director of marketing. I lied the second PM did factor in the Director of Marketing is:
Katina
Show nested quote +
Beloved Katina,

I know you were surprised at my alignment. I really enjoyed looking at that photo of you with your pants on your head. However, I am dead now. Speaking from the grave, I urge you to keep playing though I am not with you. I know you only enjoy playing the game because I am there. I am sorry for not logging out of my account every time I use your laptop, I simply just forget. Please forgive me. I don't want to fight with my sweet darling. Once this game is over, I hope we can play again together in a game where we are lovers. I would like you to know that I will always be there for you. See you soon in RL.

Love,
The Fool that is in love with you!

Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 17:14 GMT
#3879
On July 28 2012 02:12 austinmcc wrote:
Oh. So that was one and then the other one was nothing more than "I'm lonely, figure it out?"

Yes.
"I'm lonely, figure it out?" was sent first. Notice the first part is censored, so they can't reveal names. It was Katina trying to drop a clue as to who she is so Chez could start using his power to message her. Chez figures out that Katina is the one since she would be lonely with Foolishness dead. So he sends the big response, but makes it vague enough that it looks like trolling in case he guessed wrong.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 18:37 GMT
#3883
On July 28 2012 03:30 gonzaw wrote:
o_O what the...?


Okay, if I get this correctly, rastaban claims that last day cycle (Day 4), there were 2 messages sent and received by Chezinu, right?
So Chezinu received the 1st message first (from someone), then sent the 2nd one to Katina?
The 2nd message could have been sent by Chezinu, since he has that power.....but the 1st one had to be sent from mafia since there isn't any other similar messaging role out, which can only happen if Chezinu is minion since he received the message...

....wow

The "he figured out Katina was her executive" bit makes sense, although it's possible Chezinu thought Katina was her executive and was wrong. However I agree it's likely Katina is the executive herself, so this makes more sense.

Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 02:46 austinmcc wrote:
On July 26 2012 05:36 gonzaw wrote:
Fuck it's Can't Believe all over again

Had to pull this up, ended up being too true. A lynch on you turns into a scum lynch and the game mostly wrapping up, with only one unknown scum remaining, and you, I guess, being town.

On July 27 2012 10:31 gonzaw wrote:
I actually think it's something like this:

Executive: Katina
Minions: QBertz Zealos
Which of your two minions would you replace with Chezinu?


Well shit I don't know :/

I guess it's possible Zealos is town (somehow) and derped that sandro message (somehow).
But if QBertz is scum, then he didn't send or receive any message when rastaban checked him, which he would have if he was scum.
I forgot about BM as well, who claimed Qbertz has no abilities, making him either town or executive. But if QBertz was executive surely he would have sent a message to one of his minions when rastaban checked him.
That Mole thing is incriminating though, but maybe it has something to do with his role (and he knew about the mole somehow?) or it was a coincidence?
Isn't QBertz getting replaced or something? Fuck

Qbert likely has a night power, so thats why he didn't get anything, I also checked him and he didn't get any messages but since he was leaving it is likely they weren't messaging him on that particular day.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
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