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On July 23 2012 09:33 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 09:15 Mattchew wrote:On July 23 2012 08:47 Probulous wrote:
I am an idiot. Move along.
Mattchew, do us a favour and stop tunnelling Katina. It makes you look like scum because that is all you ever do. This isn't an opinion on her alignment... And tunneling would mean I have no other opinions and refuse to vote for anyone else... She is my strongest scum read so no prob, I will not stop pushing her until that changes, and you should know better than to say something stupid like that Your strongest scum read? Stronger than Palmar? Stronger than the guy who claimed 1-shot vig who can only shoot if no mafia has died in 1.5 cycle? There is no way she is your strongest read unless you are tunnelling or you are lying; i.e. you are mafia. Vote Palmar.
? Where have I ever even commented on Palmar. I don't know what i believe his alignment is yet, and you said yourself that it would be weird to fake claim a conditional power knowing there was to be a counterclaim. I think almost everyone in the game thought foolishness was scum, so 2 people shooting him makes sense
On July 22 2012 09:30 syllogism wrote:
Foolishness' weird defense of Palmar makes it fairly likely that palmar is an executive. That would also explain why Palmar has put some effort into his bigger posts, as I would expect him to be even lazier as a minion. I highly doubt mafia executive roles were RNGed and Foolishness flipping ceo just reinforces it.
this makes sense though. I think I need to re-read him
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On July 23 2012 10:14 Probulous wrote:I noted this earlier but I think I should come back to it Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 17:59 Palmar wrote:
As an alternative, sinani is trolling and taking part in dumb discussion so I'd be fine with killing him. is remarkably similar to this Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 17:49 Palmar wrote:
I think we should murder sinani206. At worst nothing of value will have been lost. From Werewolves where he was scum and successfully pushed for sinani's lynch. His efforts into labelling QBertz as sinani seem way over the top, especially that QBertz sounds nothing like sinani (could be roleplaying but I find it hard to believe QBertz is sinani).
he actually thought sinani was scum that game (there were 2 scum teams)
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On July 23 2012 10:24 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 10:17 Mattchew wrote:On July 23 2012 10:14 Probulous wrote:I noted this earlier but I think I should come back to it On July 16 2012 17:59 Palmar wrote:
As an alternative, sinani is trolling and taking part in dumb discussion so I'd be fine with killing him. is remarkably similar to this On February 13 2012 17:49 Palmar wrote:
I think we should murder sinani206. At worst nothing of value will have been lost. From Werewolves where he was scum and successfully pushed for sinani's lynch. His efforts into labelling QBertz as sinani seem way over the top, especially that QBertz sounds nothing like sinani (could be roleplaying but I find it hard to believe QBertz is sinani). he actually thought sinani was scum that game (there were 2 scum teams) Mattchew, why exactly do you think Katina is scum? I agree that she's likely scum, but I want to see your reasoning for it.
I said it before using a WBG quote on how to quote her. I think she is accusing people for things other people (or herself) are doing. I don't think a lot of the things in her cases are logical and she was told by wbg (in advice to improve her scum play) to make more cases on more people, which I think she's forced out this game.
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how to catch her as scum*
(not how to quote her lol)
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On July 18 2012 12:32 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 06:44 Katina wrote:
There is no way there will be a Foolishness or a Sandroba lynch today. Syllogism, or Blazinghand is most likely at this point maybe Austin (depends on everyone else)...Right now both Syllogism and Blazinghand is near the top of my suspicion list and these two are the main candidates for lynch today. Blazinghand hasn't been around in for a bit while Syllogism has been here trying to defend himself and push his suspicions of Foolishness (Who is also scummy to me) I would like to give Syllo another day and see what happens. So I will be voting for Blazhinghand today. I'm sure enough about austin yet to consider him a lynch candidate today I will wait and see what happens later on.
##Unvote Kurumi
##Vote Blazinghand
Depending on his flip and who dies during the night hopefully we will have a more organized D2. Which is the biggest load of hogwash ever. He is suspicious, because? Oh I get it, he is suspicious because he is suspicious... 
You said you think Katina is town, but this is the only thing I can find that even somewhat mentions an opinion on her play, and it isn't a townie one.
What do you make of the fact that in 2 posts to start day 2 Katina doesn't mention Palmar (or vote him) and then until switches back to being "on him" when the bandwagon today had started rolling.
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Hey palmar have you ever seen prob play this way? He seems way more aggressive and "big man on campus" then the town prob I am used to. He is also ignoring direct questions posed to him which is something else I have never see him do
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On July 23 2012 20:25 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 19:35 Palmar wrote:i'm voting zealos. because of this: On July 20 2012 07:34 sandroba wrote:
Man this is fun.
I messaged Zealos yesterday before the day post. He never revealed he got pm. I just got confirmation that the pm was sent and Zealos has posted twice since then. So yeah fun times. and this On July 21 2012 03:36 sandroba wrote:
My PM to zealos actually started like this: No rest for the wicked. Don't trust any message that doesn't start with this phrase.
Which he omitted when he claimed the message. I thought it was a pretty obvious mafia message. Which basically means he's guaranteed to be scum. .....
Riveting
+ Show Spoiler [......] +On July 22 2012 09:12 Protactinium wrote:![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/24/Bureaucracy_box_art.jpg/200px-Bureaucracy_box_art.jpg) Day 3Within the labyrinth of cubicles, offices, and badly lit corridors of the company headquarters, sandroba ran furiously through the massive, hopelessly convoluted building. In his hands, he clutched a thick sheaf of redacted spreadsheets, crooked financial records, and bribery lists, as well as some dirty photographs of the company's top executives enjoying a wild party with dozens of ladies of the night thrown in good measure. Now sandroba just had to find an honest mid-level executive to help him expose their corruption, bribery, and dirty dealing to the world. Unable to find working elevators anywhere in the building, sandroba raced up the stairs to the office of the Principal Operations Liaison. However, on the door to his office read a sign saying, "Please refer your business to the Corporate Communications Strategist on the 17th floor." Chagrined, sandroba dashed up to this man's office, only to behold a sign directing him to the Internal Security Coordinator on the 4th floor. Up and down the stairs he sprinted, getting more and more exhausted and out of breath. To his growing frustration and fatigue, each office pointed him toward the office of even more obscure executives, from the Senior Creative Director to the Customer Division Manager or the Chief Accountability Orchestrator. His heart pounded agonizingly, sweat poured out of his body, his head ached abominably, and his blood throbbed in his veins. Before long, the exertion of running from office to office up, down, across, and diagonally through the building became too much for him. At last, sandroba's over-strained heart gave out just as he arrived, gasping and blue of face, at the door of the Human Directives Analyst. Of course, this door, just like all the others, bore a sign saying, "Please refer your business to the District Data Designer on the 20th floor." Coming upon the corpse of sandroba, another harried and overworked employee cried out an outraged shout. He had been feeling uncertain about life, death, and continuing to work for this demonic corporation already, and now he discovered that one of his colleagues had died on the job. With a swift movement, he shattered his coffee mug against a nearby table to make a jagged improvised weapon and charged up the stairs until he found the poshest, most luxurious office in the building. Screaming out again, this employee burst within and stabbed in bloodthirsty fashion at a stunned-looking Foolishness. Within a few minutes, the veil of red passed from before his eyes, but by then Foolishness was long dead. sandroba the Bossy Employee has been exhausted to death. Show nested quote +You are the bully of the office! Although you have no official titles, you like exercising power. Your fellow coworkers become terrified with your mere presence. Once per half cycle, you may attempt to boss around any employee of your choice. To use this power, you must PM me with whatever message you wish to send, along with the name of your target employee. Your target will not be informed of your identity, and is under no obligation to comply with your orders. I reserve the right to censor your message if deemed inappropriate. Feel free to clarify anything with me if you have any questions. You win with the town for some reason. Foolishness the CEO was stabbed to death with a broken coffee mug. + Show Spoiler [role PM] +![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Ver/misc/bureaucrat.jpg) Congratulations, you are Foolishness the CEO! Naturally, you are an evil, evil bureaucrat. You control a mighty company that is moving in to acquire Liquidia. Having already dominated the games queue thread with your dictatorial policies, you judge the time is ripe for assuming complete control. However, because you are too occupied scheming and ripping off customers, you only have time to issue orders to your two trusted directors (once every half cycle). You do, however, know the powers your company posseses amongst its minions. They are: [information redacted] Be warned: one of the above minions is a traitorous employee who wants to sell you out to your fiercest competitor and doesn't actually have a power. Sadly, you don't know his identity. On the other hand, just like a real evil dictator, you have the power to kill your own employees. Any time during the game, you may use your secret trap door to anonymously (and instantaneously) kill one of your employees in an attempt to kill the traitor (one use). However, the trap door only works on your own employees. If you use it on a non-employee, the kill does not go through, they are notified someone made an attempt on their life but not who, and your night action immunity goes kaput. Unfortunately, your subordinates don't know who you even are because you're too busy playing around on your luxury yacht. Luckily, you know them! Your subordinates are: [information redacted] Once every half cycle (day/night) you may choose to send a message to one of your subordinates (Chairman of the Board or VP of Marketing) Because you are the CEO, you have immense power. Any malovent night action on you fails (besides vigilante shot) and you are notified that someone attempted that action but not who. You also show up as a role of your choice to any detective type actions. You may choose from the following roles that might exist or make up your own! [information redacted] Lastly, your team will vote on a kill. During the day, the rest of the mafia will send in their kill choice to the mod. At the lynch we will present you with a list of names to choose the kill from.. If you die the Chairman of the Board takes over your job, then the vice president of marketing, and if he dies then the name which comes up the most from the remaining mafia members is the target. Once per game you may eschew the advice of your minions and simply choose the target yourself. If you live and one of your executives die, you will be given a name of their most trusted (living) minion. You may choose to promote said minion to the executive's position (and knowledge), if you choose to spend 1 full cycle without sending messages.
Day 3 ends at 01:00 GMT (+00:00) (48 hours from now) on Monday, July 23.
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On July 23 2012 20:32 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 20:30 Mattchew wrote:On July 23 2012 20:25 Zealos wrote:On July 23 2012 19:35 Palmar wrote:i'm voting zealos. because of this: On July 20 2012 07:34 sandroba wrote:
Man this is fun.
I messaged Zealos yesterday before the day post. He never revealed he got pm. I just got confirmation that the pm was sent and Zealos has posted twice since then. So yeah fun times. and this On July 21 2012 03:36 sandroba wrote:
My PM to zealos actually started like this: No rest for the wicked. Don't trust any message that doesn't start with this phrase.
Which he omitted when he claimed the message. I thought it was a pretty obvious mafia message. Which basically means he's guaranteed to be scum. ..... Riveting + Show Spoiler [......] +On July 22 2012 09:12 Protactinium wrote:Day 3 Within the labyrinth of cubicles, offices, and badly lit corridors of the company headquarters, sandroba ran furiously through the massive, hopelessly convoluted building. In his hands, he clutched a thick sheaf of redacted spreadsheets, crooked financial records, and bribery lists, as well as some dirty photographs of the company's top executives enjoying a wild party with dozens of ladies of the night thrown in good measure. Now sandroba just had to find an honest mid-level executive to help him expose their corruption, bribery, and dirty dealing to the world. Unable to find working elevators anywhere in the building, sandroba raced up the stairs to the office of the Principal Operations Liaison. However, on the door to his office read a sign saying, "Please refer your business to the Corporate Communications Strategist on the 17th floor." Chagrined, sandroba dashed up to this man's office, only to behold a sign directing him to the Internal Security Coordinator on the 4th floor. Up and down the stairs he sprinted, getting more and more exhausted and out of breath. To his growing frustration and fatigue, each office pointed him toward the office of even more obscure executives, from the Senior Creative Director to the Customer Division Manager or the Chief Accountability Orchestrator. His heart pounded agonizingly, sweat poured out of his body, his head ached abominably, and his blood throbbed in his veins. Before long, the exertion of running from office to office up, down, across, and diagonally through the building became too much for him. At last, sandroba's over-strained heart gave out just as he arrived, gasping and blue of face, at the door of the Human Directives Analyst. Of course, this door, just like all the others, bore a sign saying, "Please refer your business to the District Data Designer on the 20th floor." Coming upon the corpse of sandroba, another harried and overworked employee cried out an outraged shout. He had been feeling uncertain about life, death, and continuing to work for this demonic corporation already, and now he discovered that one of his colleagues had died on the job. With a swift movement, he shattered his coffee mug against a nearby table to make a jagged improvised weapon and charged up the stairs until he found the poshest, most luxurious office in the building. Screaming out again, this employee burst within and stabbed in bloodthirsty fashion at a stunned-looking Foolishness. Within a few minutes, the veil of red passed from before his eyes, but by then Foolishness was long dead. sandroba the Bossy Employee has been exhausted to death. Show nested quote +You are the bully of the office! Although you have no official titles, you like exercising power. Your fellow coworkers become terrified with your mere presence. Once per half cycle, you may attempt to boss around any employee of your choice. To use this power, you must PM me with whatever message you wish to send, along with the name of your target employee. Your target will not be informed of your identity, and is under no obligation to comply with your orders. I reserve the right to censor your message if deemed inappropriate. Feel free to clarify anything with me if you have any questions. You win with the town for some reason. Foolishness the CEO was stabbed to death with a broken coffee mug. + Show Spoiler [role PM] +Congratulations, you are Foolishness the CEO! Naturally, you are an evil, evil bureaucrat. You control a mighty company that is moving in to acquire Liquidia. Having already dominated the games queue thread with your dictatorial policies, you judge the time is ripe for assuming complete control. However, because you are too occupied scheming and ripping off customers, you only have time to issue orders to your two trusted directors (once every half cycle). You do, however, know the powers your company posseses amongst its minions. They are: [information redacted] Be warned: one of the above minions is a traitorous employee who wants to sell you out to your fiercest competitor and doesn't actually have a power. Sadly, you don't know his identity. On the other hand, just like a real evil dictator, you have the power to kill your own employees. Any time during the game, you may use your secret trap door to anonymously (and instantaneously) kill one of your employees in an attempt to kill the traitor (one use). However, the trap door only works on your own employees. If you use it on a non-employee, the kill does not go through, they are notified someone made an attempt on their life but not who, and your night action immunity goes kaput. Unfortunately, your subordinates don't know who you even are because you're too busy playing around on your luxury yacht. Luckily, you know them! Your subordinates are: [information redacted] Once every half cycle (day/night) you may choose to send a message to one of your subordinates (Chairman of the Board or VP of Marketing) Because you are the CEO, you have immense power. Any malovent night action on you fails (besides vigilante shot) and you are notified that someone attempted that action but not who. You also show up as a role of your choice to any detective type actions. You may choose from the following roles that might exist or make up your own! [information redacted] Lastly, your team will vote on a kill. During the day, the rest of the mafia will send in their kill choice to the mod. At the lynch we will present you with a list of names to choose the kill from.. If you die the Chairman of the Board takes over your job, then the vice president of marketing, and if he dies then the name which comes up the most from the remaining mafia members is the target. Once per game you may eschew the advice of your minions and simply choose the target yourself. If you live and one of your executives die, you will be given a name of their most trusted (living) minion. You may choose to promote said minion to the executive's position (and knowledge), if you choose to spend 1 full cycle without sending messages.
Day 3 ends at 01:00 GMT (+00:00) (48 hours from now) on Monday, July 23. Well that literally means nothing.
cool that makes 2 of us!
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Actually I understand your link but I don't think you understand mine
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I am voting Palmar.
I unintentionally saved BH from a day 1 lynch.
Sandroba saying Palmar was the best reason I could find, and I trust that sandroba is smarter than I.
My vote is late and meaningless, but it does help ensure a lynch.
##vote: Palmar
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On July 24 2012 07:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Why is Zealos confirmed scum again?
On July 23 2012 19:35 Palmar wrote:i'm voting zealos. because of this: Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 07:34 sandroba wrote:
Man this is fun.
I messaged Zealos yesterday before the day post. He never revealed he got pm. I just got confirmation that the pm was sent and Zealos has posted twice since then. So yeah fun times. and this Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 03:36 sandroba wrote:
My PM to zealos actually started like this: No rest for the wicked. Don't trust any message that doesn't start with this phrase.
Which he omitted when he claimed the message. I thought it was a pretty obvious mafia message. Which basically means he's guaranteed to be scum.
and look who wrote it!
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On July 24 2012 07:26 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 07:24 Mattchew wrote:On July 24 2012 07:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Why is Zealos confirmed scum again? On July 23 2012 19:35 Palmar wrote:i'm voting zealos. because of this: On July 20 2012 07:34 sandroba wrote:
Man this is fun.
I messaged Zealos yesterday before the day post. He never revealed he got pm. I just got confirmation that the pm was sent and Zealos has posted twice since then. So yeah fun times. and this On July 21 2012 03:36 sandroba wrote:
My PM to zealos actually started like this: No rest for the wicked. Don't trust any message that doesn't start with this phrase.
Which he omitted when he claimed the message. I thought it was a pretty obvious mafia message. Which basically means he's guaranteed to be scum. and look who wrote it! LOL I CAN PLAY THIS GAME TOO, AM I AWESOME YET? Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 06:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
Secondly we have two near-confirmed scum in Kurumi and Zealos. If you're a vig or you have any sort of night KP it might be a good idea to kill them given that tomorrow will likely be a wash if they're alive.
no, you've been awesome all along <3
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Prob if Palmar were to flip town how would you view his reads?
and will you ever give me an opinion on Katina that actually has substance?
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Also, if Palmar flips town is anyone actually considering lynching syllogism, because I am currently not
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On July 24 2012 08:55 Probulous wrote:
Deadline in 5?
i believe so
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I hope you guys are right
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On July 24 2012 09:02 Probulous wrote:Well no one told me why I am wrong (if I am). Why is this?
Cause honestly I have had a null tell on Palmar and agreed with him throughout this entire game... Also, I was wondering if scum would weed out their high level members for us (killing the town vets first thus if Palmar or syllo or MZ were alive like day 5 or 6, they'd be very very very likely scum... but idk these aren't exactly arguments that counter the case you made and sandroba and syllos reads on palmar
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Prob I find/found it weird that you were unwilling to discuss Katina with me. Usually you and Gonzaw are both extremely longwinded and willing to type out your thoughts on literally anything at anytime. With so many votes on Palmar he was/is set to be lynched and you STILL refused to answer questions about her. There is something different about you this game
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On July 24 2012 09:14 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 09:11 Mattchew wrote:
Prob I find/found it weird that you were unwilling to discuss Katina with me. Usually you and Gonzaw are both extremely longwinded and willing to type out your thoughts on literally anything at anytime. With so many votes on Palmar he was/is set to be lynched and you STILL refused to answer questions about her. There is something different about you this game See Day 1. I worked like an all mighty bitch to get a lynch of either Gonzaw (my preferred) or BH (backup). By my reads that would be a choice between two scum which explains why it was so hard. My point though is that the no lynch was facilitated because people were allowed to bring in other targets. I was one of them. Take it as lesson learnt. Palmar is my strongest read and so I have pushed him. If you want to lynch someone else, then explain why my case is wrong and I will consider yours. Until you do that I am not risking a no lynch simply because someone else might be scum. You forget we have less voting power than usual.
Lol you forget that other cases may be as good if not stronger than yours. Didn't you chastise (or atleast allow people to chastise) me for doing the exact same thing to my strongest read Katina? I don't see you revoking my claims in order to push my vote onto Palmar. Why should I do something that you are not willing to do yourself?
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On July 24 2012 09:19 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 05:03 Mattchew wrote:
you have palmar voting palmar (and zealos)
##vote: Palmar scum double voter?! jk you can't vote yourself, i tried to make slooshykins do that already Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 09:18 Mattchew wrote:On July 24 2012 09:14 Probulous wrote:On July 24 2012 09:11 Mattchew wrote:
Prob I find/found it weird that you were unwilling to discuss Katina with me. Usually you and Gonzaw are both extremely longwinded and willing to type out your thoughts on literally anything at anytime. With so many votes on Palmar he was/is set to be lynched and you STILL refused to answer questions about her. There is something different about you this game See Day 1. I worked like an all mighty bitch to get a lynch of either Gonzaw (my preferred) or BH (backup). By my reads that would be a choice between two scum which explains why it was so hard. My point though is that the no lynch was facilitated because people were allowed to bring in other targets. I was one of them. Take it as lesson learnt. Palmar is my strongest read and so I have pushed him. If you want to lynch someone else, then explain why my case is wrong and I will consider yours. Until you do that I am not risking a no lynch simply because someone else might be scum. You forget we have less voting power than usual. Lol you forget that other cases may be as good if not stronger than yours. Didn't you chastise (or atleast allow people to chastise) me for doing the exact same thing to my strongest read Katina? I don't see you revoking my claims in order to push my vote onto Palmar. Why should I do something that you are not willing to do yourself? ...he already answered this; we don' want a no-lynch.
I wasn't referring to us ever no lynching I am referring to how he pushed his lynch target and how he wants others to push theirs
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