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On July 17 2012 10:38 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 10:35 marvellosity wrote:On July 17 2012 10:34 wherebugsgo wrote:On July 17 2012 10:31 marvellosity wrote: bugs: - eh... i keep deleting :p
you're obviously not particularly confident in your read on him if you wrote what you wrote anyway. if you're fairly confident he's scum then you have no reason to believe he wouldn't try to mislead town if he lived.
aren't you really saying you think he's scummy but you wanna give him a 2nd chance? read again. LAYABOUT IS SCUMMIER. yeah i got that. putting something in caps that you already said doesn't make it go in my head twice. I'm not asking why you don't want to lynch him today, I'm questioning your line of thinking that someone you believe to be scum would help us find scum. oh, that's simple. This setup has most scum not knowing who the other scum are. It's in their best interest to actually look for scum, similar to a game that has multiple scum factions. Otherwise they'll just die isolated. Thus, for a person like syllo to live, we force him to find other scum for us (we know that syllo is capable of this regardless of his alignment). As long as he is unwilling to do this we threaten him with death. If he is willing to help find other scum then he's either town or he's a scum who's helping us kill his own teammates. When we have more information on how he's done this (given time) we can more effectively determine his alignment. If, at any point, there are no players scummier than him, we just kill him. Or we can just kill him outright and not risk him having a power?
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On July 17 2012 10:46 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 03:42 VisceraEyes wrote: Blazinghand needs to slow the eff down. I'm pretty sure he's town bury there were 113 new replies since I last checked. BH you should support RL. Given this what do you make of this Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 01:46 marvellosity wrote: laughable != scummy. I prefer BH's case on syllo than the one on BH It was posted right after Supersoft pointed out how BH looks green based on his rapid fire defense with some really out there logic. Hiropro and most of the people at that time thought BH was scum but Marv didn't join in the wagon. Given you think BH is town, does this alter your read on Marv? I am getting more of a townie feel from Marv since he has decided to end the lurking and actually started to contribute. Making posts does not mean he is contributing. See?
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On July 17 2012 10:49 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 10:47 marvellosity wrote: Probey, I'll make it easy for you
read my filter from before and then after the first time Foolishness said the nuke should have been launched at me instead I know which is why I want VE's opinion. He still has his vote on you. Given the number of other targets for lynch it seems misplaced and I want his input. Kurumi, you sir are not helping. Why the fuck are you defending marvellosity? If making posts is equal to contributing, then I am greenest of all towns, only to be beaten by Bill Murray in the past.
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I'm awake and I am starting to work on my cases. Why Blazinghand wanted to save me remains unknown to me. It seems that we have nukers and anti-nukers. Probably both roles on both sides. I know I am town and I could nuke. BH and VE it seems can block nukes. RoL had a nuke too. Anyway I should start working on those cases. Leave layabout. You can't draw any conclusions from those 2 posts besides that he seems to think about things that are happening instead of accepting everything. In my book, it is a town thing to do. I have no idea why WBG thinks he is scum. Probably many modkills incoming, but keep your eyes on BM and GGQ who either said nothing so far or made one post.
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On July 17 2012 18:43 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 18:41 supersoft wrote: the nukes are modconfirmed. both kurumis and rols nukes were followed up by a modpost saying that they will go down at the end of the day. if this turns out to be trolling by the hosts we can still lynch kurumi tomorrow right? That doesn't confirm they are actually real though, because in some setups with nukes anyone can "launch" a nuke but only real ones are actually lethal. It seems like an amazing coincidence for the person kurumi nuked to also have nukes. Nuke me. Why are you scared of trying it out?
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On July 17 2012 23:06 Palmar wrote: layabout Sloosh Sandroba Probulous HiroPro Foolishness VisceraEyes Bill Murray Gonzaw Meapak_Ziphh Supersoft austinmcc Wherebugsgo Katina syllogism GGQ Blazinghand Chezinu Kurumi rastaban Mattchew marvellosity risk.nuke Q-bert-Z RebirthofLegend Palmar Zealos
Thank me later. fixed that for ya
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Oh, laya should be black. Forgot about him.
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On July 17 2012 23:21 syllogism wrote: Well you are bad at mafia then So is sandroba, His stupidity and huge ego blinded him so much that he did nothing after his shitty ineffective gambit. Many people would listen to him, but he decided to hide. He also said something about RoL not being scum and never said what it was. If there is somebody who is bad at this game, it is sandroba. He is just sitting on his throne of gluttony, sloth and pride. He most likely is town, but he is playing terribly. I just don't understand this, why people decide to go afk instead of doing something.. Palmar, sandroba, layabout. It makes no sense to me. That's okay town, it's not like we aren't playing the game of luck, flailing around and trying to hit while relying on blues. Wake the fuck up and start doing things when you are able to. I think Meapak is scum. I must stop reading the thread because it just doesn't let me concentrate. And you filthy scum? Have fun killing yourselves.
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On July 17 2012 23:32 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 23:24 marvellosity wrote: Ok. Why are you voting Kurumi when he's getting nuked? a day 1 correct lynch is great. There is no reason to risk that being fucked with. I have no idea if mafia can bus/heal/block this shot from rol or not. I say we take what we have. If kurumi is mafia, which he most likely is, we're ahead, no matter what else happens. The lynch is our safety net, you can't fuck with the lynch. I am not scum. But you're all set I am one. Nobody thought it through besides layabout and gonzaw. Thank you guys for playing this game as intended.
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On July 17 2012 23:37 austinmcc wrote:Good lord you guys post too much. Read through, need to look closer at the syllo and BH stuff, but first I want to ask this: Does anyone actually know what sandroba's power is?I want sandroba to reveal his role. He seems sure that mafia is going to kill him Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 06:08 sandroba wrote: Meh I think mafia is going to kill me anyway so no harm doing this.
... The repercussions of my claim is that even after mafia kills me they can't know for certain there is no other abilities like mine in the game so all their communication is no longer safe. Have fun mafia =P
so there's no harm in revealing. 1-shot? 1 message per half cycle? 1 message per cycle? Please reveal more about your actual power, sandroba, because it's not sitting well with me right now. More than anything else in the thread, I'm curious about this. He is not dying, you are. So shut the hell up and lurk. Now scram.
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On July 17 2012 23:40 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 23:38 Kurumi wrote: He is not dying, you are. So shut the hell up and lurk. Now scram. No thanks, I'd like to contribute. You're not at all curious about the magical power that out-ed you? I want you to survive ffs
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On July 18 2012 00:48 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 23:40 austinmcc wrote:On July 17 2012 23:38 Kurumi wrote: He is not dying, you are. So shut the hell up and lurk. Now scram. No thanks, I'd like to contribute. You're not at all curious about the magical power that out-ed you? Sorry austinmcc, I refuse. Mafia has much more to gain from me claiming fully than town. Why exactly do you want to know? I could be mafia as chairman/president and kurumi my minion since he has a power. I could be minion with this power and used it in such manner, which makes it the same effectiveness as if I were town using it. Based on the information I presented to the thread is up to you to make a call on my alignment and kurumi's and I don't believe you need any extra information to make that call. @kurumi If somehow you are town it's going to be a very sad day for me, but you must realize the way you reacted to that msg makes you 99.9999% mafia and we have no option but to lynch/kill you. Also nuking a person who has not posted yet is not exactly the most townie thing to do and that's what made me suspicious in the first place. If somehow you are town you should look at yourself first before accusing me of playing badly. And you say I'm laying back and doing nothing when I'm one of the few arguing against the huge wagon on syllogism and actually trying to get BH lynched. @palmar I think the likelyhood that nukes are real is greater outweighs the safety of a day1 guaranteed scum lynch. If mafia has some ability to redirect nukes so be it, we lynch kurumi tomorrow and BH today instead of the contrary. Speaking of BH, have you checked how he reacted when he returned to the thread after being accused? Do you really buy that? How would you react after getting such message as town?
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On July 18 2012 01:15 sandroba wrote: I would reveal I've been msg'ed in thread. Or if I could come to the conclusion the msg came from a townie I would think about what he is trying to accomplish and not follow the instructions. You would out a blue power for no reason? Well, I did not expect anything wise from you. Congratulations.
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On July 18 2012 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote: @Bugs: Stop rolefishing.
Between BH and layabout, I much prefer to lynch layabout and here's why:
I believe in sandro's catch on Kurumi. Most of us do, right? So we're operating under the assumtion that scum minion A (Kurumi) has Power A (Nuclear Missile). By my estimation, a power that directly opposes a scum minion's power would, logically, be a town power. The scum team aren't in different factions, they're one BIG faction that don't know each other. So why in the dicks would scum minion B (BH) have scum power B (Anti-Missile) when Power B directly opposes Power A? It makes much more sense to logically assume that BH is town if we're accepting via behavioral analysis that Kurumi is scum.
Am I crazy here?
Layabout has been consistently useless and that's not like layabout. I'm good with a layabout lynch today. Not syllo. Sandro is right, the case on syllo is weak...and I would be just as opposed to a Foolish or WBG or Sandro lynch based on a weak case.
I can't tell what I think of Palmar yet, as his scumplay has taken a SHARP upturn from what we're used to. I need to see more of his intentions before I make a decision about his alignment.
##Vote: layabout Don't lynch layabout, that's mindless. This guy posted TWO TIMES. Everything he has done was to express some doubt in what happened. He did not attack sandroba, he asked questions. STOP voting layabout.
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On July 18 2012 02:22 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote: I believe in sandro's catch on Kurumi. Most of us do, right? So we're operating under the assumtion that scum minion A (Kurumi) has Power A (Nuclear Missile). By my estimation, a power that directly opposes a scum minion's power would, logically, be a town power. The scum team aren't in different factions, they're one BIG faction that don't know each other. So why in the dicks would scum minion B (BH) have scum power B (Anti-Missile) when Power B directly opposes Power A? It makes much more sense to logically assume that BH is town if we're accepting via behavioral analysis that Kurumi is scum.
Am I crazy here? RoL has also launched a nuke at Kurumi. If Nuclear Missile is mafia-only, that means 2/6 minions had the nuclear missile power (assuming the top 3 don't have powers themselves). That seems like a stretch. I find it more likely that nukes were given to both town and mafia, or only town (although mafia probably has SOME kind of extra kp, given that they only get 1 per night?). So I think you're wrong in assuming that all nukes are mafia, although if both Kurumi and RoL flip mafia maybe so. If not all nukes are mafia, then mafia might have a minion that can block. Nukes: Me and RebirthOfLegend Anti-Nukes VisceraEyes Blazinghand No problem.
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On July 18 2012 02:26 HiroPro wrote: Mind telling who you think is scum, austin? Stop fishing and scram.
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On July 18 2012 03:16 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 03:04 layabout wrote:bah Sandro town Kurumi scum. since none of you questioned mafia following a two line message of questionable intent when mafia can only have sent up to 3 messages that could have been as long as they liked and would have been their only method of communication. Are we ignoring the nuke and just killing Kurumi then?
lol On July 17 2012 07:00 layabout wrote:
PSA: No talking to kurumi and spamming up the thread! On July 17 2012 11:20 Blazinghand wrote:
##unvote ##vote: layabout what are you talking about? You want to lynch kurumi despite of the nuke? Did you even read the thread? I don't think so. Your "I must be over thinking things" means nothing more than: "lul guys i have no idea what is going on and i hope i will somehow catch something i can comment on without you guys noticing that i have no idea whatsoever. + I am a lazy bum" That's how Town in this game works.
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On July 18 2012 04:28 supersoft wrote: we are not lynching veterans today. Wait at least for night 1 and see who's left by then. Interesting, why? Then I shouldn't get lynched before I got nuked!
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Anyway I propose Kurumi lynch. I am dying as town anyway, so that sucks. If RoL flips town, then we have two towns dead. If we kill another town.. 3 towns dead day 1. Lynch me. Please. This is the best thing you can do. Best case - RoL is scum. Worst case, I am town and so RoL is.
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Also remember we have extended majority lynch here. We should no-lynch then.
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