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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 00:13 GMT
#1565
On July 19 2012 08:53 Katina wrote:
Mattchew

First thing that I found interesting while looking through Mattchew's filter was that he is gunning to get me killed the whole game but when the nukes start getting thrown around he decides to do that.

Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 11:46 Mattchew wrote:
TBH i have no idea if any of these nukes or blocks are real

like I do not knowingly have a nuke

##nuke Bill Murray


He sends the nuke on BM. It makes no sense to nuke him when he hasn't said a word about BM before this. This makes no sense if he wanted to kill me that badly.

Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 13:44 Mattchew wrote:
On July 17 2012 13:39 Katina wrote:
Gah, I guess his filter really doesn't have anything. Even when I compared it to past games my intuition still strongly tells me he's Mafia. My intuition hasn't let me down yet. I assure you that as soon as I can demostrate he is Mafia accurately I will.

I did go back and take another look at Mattchew's filter though. He's only going after me because I'm an easy target (Liar game is proof of that. In that game three different Mafia members went after me) It's evident that his case against me was incredibly forced and makes little sense this is seen because nobody agrees with it. People like WBG know my play very well so if his case had any value it would be sure that these people (WBG, VE, etc) would be commenting on it. He hasn't done anything this game besides tunnel me and attempt to nuke BM. That's a very questionable move in itself.

To answer WBG's questions, I'm not sure about VE yet. I will let you know what I take a look at him.

I will get back to you on Foolishness.

Yeah testing nukes on someone who hasn't posted and I would normally be ok with policy lynching sure is questionable!

I've also posted reads on people like BH, MZ and others while trying to stimulate discussion and push people for their reasons, but fuck that, I have only tunneled you


Mattchew, sunk to Kurumi's level and nuked someone who hasn't posted. Furthermore policy lynches are stupid. His actions contradict each other. You have been gunning for me all game but you be willing to policy lynch a different person and nuke somone else entirely.

You have given us your reads but there is no elaboration. You said rastaban was Mafia twice but only said that was because he was looking out for himself, that's hardly a reason to call someone mafia. You did not want to kill gonzaw D1 but you didn't do anything to stop the votes from going over. Instead you sat there and watched it all happen, of course your vote got stolen but that shouldn't stop from telling everyone to vote for someone else instead.Futhermore you never commented on any of the big names in the thread. You have mentioned BH maybe once or twice, you never said anything about austin and as I said before you never talked about gonzaw for more than one post.

Looking through his filter he posts to make it look like he's doing something and contributing but in reality his posts don't say much of anything. Basically they are asking people the same "what do you think of this guy" "What do you think of this reponse" but not generating anything useful.

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On July 17 2012 14:07 Mattchew wrote:
On July 17 2012 13:56 Katina wrote:
On July 17 2012 13:44 Mattchew wrote:
On July 17 2012 13:39 Katina wrote:
Gah, I guess his filter really doesn't have anything. Even when I compared it to past games my intuition still strongly tells me he's Mafia. My intuition hasn't let me down yet. I assure you that as soon as I can demostrate he is Mafia accurately I will.

I did go back and take another look at Mattchew's filter though. He's only going after me because I'm an easy target (Liar game is proof of that. In that game three different Mafia members went after me) It's evident that his case against me was incredibly forced and makes little sense this is seen because nobody agrees with it. People like WBG know my play very well so if his case had any value it would be sure that these people (WBG, VE, etc) would be commenting on it. He hasn't done anything this game besides tunnel me and attempt to nuke BM. That's a very questionable move in itself.

To answer WBG's questions, I'm not sure about VE yet. I will let you know what I take a look at him.

I will get back to you on Foolishness.

Yeah testing nukes on someone who hasn't posted and I would normally be ok with policy lynching sure is questionable!

I've also posted reads on people like BH, MZ and others while trying to stimulate discussion and push people for their reasons, but fuck that, I have only tunneled you


I really like how you convinently appear whenever I do. You haven't post reads on others nearly to the extent that you have on me. I would hardly call what you have been doing as generating dicussion. I think people have even forgotten that you were in the game. No one every says anything to you or about you.

Just because no one talks to me doesnt mean I'm not trying to help discussions. People probably ignore me cause foolishness says so


It seems that Mattchew is using Foolishness' credibilty to get by with not saying much. Which seemed to be working apparently.

No one is really looking at Mattchew or listening to much of what he is saying in thread. (Can't blame you) Mattchew's play has been horrid this game and I am 100% percent certain that he is Mafia.

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A. I am always ok with killing Bill Murray (sorry broski, numbers and experience dont lie) Alignment Free Proof!

B. I didn't have a nuke so your entire case rests on a hypothetical test

C. At that point in the thread, people like sandroba, WBG, Foolishness all said I was wrong about you. I value opinions of others so why would I nuke against all of their wills?

D. You OMGUS by saying no one is discussing with me and that they shouldn't be
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 00:15 GMT
#1566
On July 19 2012 09:02 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 09:00 Bill Murray wrote:
Someone could have stolen his vote


Why? That is what I am trying to work out.

Cause I wasn't on either lynch so I would be an automatic +1 (without subtracting from either side)
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 00:20 GMT
#1571
On July 19 2012 09:19 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 09:15 Mattchew wrote:
On July 19 2012 09:02 Probulous wrote:
On July 19 2012 09:00 Bill Murray wrote:
Someone could have stolen his vote


Why? That is what I am trying to work out.

Cause I wasn't on either lynch so I would be an automatic +1 (without subtracting from either side)

Which does exactly what?

See, mafia gain no benefit from it. If their intention was to get a misslynch well they failed. Given they initially moved your vote onto Gonzaw who had less votes I could see them playing for a no lynch but then they move it to BH right at the deadline bringing a lynch closer, but they still failed. Why move it back?

Honestly I am starting to think that whoever used it was just trying to mess with us, so I am going to drop it.

Thats why I suggested it could have been a townie as well
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 00:24 GMT
#1576
Hey marv and prob, what do you guys make of me and katina's spat
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 00:32 GMT
#1586
On July 19 2012 09:25 HiroPro wrote:
I think Katina might be right on Mattchew guys. In PYP, he day-vigied deconduo (mafia CPR) 2 minutes after the day 1 post based mostly on the number picking and in this game he is unwilling to use a nuke that he may not possess on his strongest scum read?

I joined that game, to get a day-vig, and shoot someone 1 minute into the game. That was the strongest reason for me signing up that game
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 00:32 GMT
#1588
On July 19 2012 09:27 Katina wrote:
Mattchew wahy do you always ask everyone's opinion of whatever you and I say to each other? You are doing anything you can to get my lynched for absolutely no reason.

I would bet anything that you are Mafia.

Why do you not want to hear people's opinions on your thoughts? Do you not want to be put into the spotlight?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 00:36 GMT
#1592
##vote kurumi

amidoingthisrite?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 04:12 GMT
#1642
I am extremely underwhelmed by foolishness.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 15:23 GMT
#1695
Palmar is it fun sheeping me?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 15:25 GMT
#1698
other than the gonzaw read, which i think is wrong
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 15:26 GMT
#1701
On July 20 2012 00:25 marvellosity wrote:
Matt, I don't think you know the definition of 'sheeping'

I was gonna say regurgitating, but decided sheeping looked more smarmy
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 15:40 GMT
#1711
On July 20 2012 00:35 Palmar wrote:
yeah but why?

All you've focused on so far is the amount of his posts, not the content.

I think I said this already, but Gonzaw seems to gain his aggressiveness from his thread dominance. He outwrites and outreads everyone forcing people to interact with him and this is how he gets his reads. When he has this kinda time and effort to put into a game, this is where his confidence stems from IMO
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 15:43 GMT
#1715
On July 20 2012 00:38 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 00:30 syllogism wrote:
Palmar while you are here, explain, in your own words. Why you think BM is mafia


compare this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=54241


to this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&user=54241

and this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305850&user=54241

Sure, you can in theory make the argument he got excited with his powerrole in BC's game and that's why he was so much more engaged than in the two games he's scum (including this one). But I don't think I have to spoonfeed you the difference in emphasis and posting style... right?
he's a politician that steals powers and he used my vote to consolidate a lynch onto BH... if he is scum, i dont think he'd be a leader nor someone the leaders reach out to day 1, so he would have very little idea if he was helping a mislynch or a scum lynch by moving me to BH
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 16:32 GMT
#1725
On July 20 2012 01:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yes that post never came. After composing some of it and it being built up so by Probulous, I reread it and realized that most of it was stuff that had been mentioned or was drawing connections between people that didn't happen.

So yeah, everyone can exhale - that post of "interesting things on reread" isn't coming. My reads post is gonna have to suffice. WAH WAH WAAAAAAH.

Cool your scum too.... this is not that hard... woulda covered your tracks better without the wah wah waaaaaah

For those keeping score at home

Scum =
Foolishness
Kurumi
VE
Rastaban
Katina
MZ

maybe chez?


There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 19 2012 22:42 GMT
#1820
Cool add zealos to the list


Scum =
Foolishness
Kurumi
Zealos
VE
Rastaban
Katina
MZ
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 20 2012 00:55 GMT
#1938
On July 20 2012 08:29 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 01:32 Mattchew wrote:
On July 20 2012 01:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yes that post never came. After composing some of it and it being built up so by Probulous, I reread it and realized that most of it was stuff that had been mentioned or was drawing connections between people that didn't happen.

So yeah, everyone can exhale - that post of "interesting things on reread" isn't coming. My reads post is gonna have to suffice. WAH WAH WAAAAAAH.

Cool your scum too.... this is not that hard... woulda covered your tracks better without the wah wah waaaaaah


This makes absolutely no sense...Like 0

Note to self: Risk has done nothing but defend himself and call people stupid.


His wah wah waaaah conveys deflection. He knows not making that post is scummy so he tries to play it off as if he is joking and trolling about not making the post. Its forced nonchalance to convey he is comfortable relaying a scummy message. I do it too.


On July 20 2012 08:32 Bill Murray wrote:
mattchew in the wings
waiting on a spiderweb
who is the dinner

wut?

There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 20 2012 01:04 GMT
#1943
On July 20 2012 09:59 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 09:55 Mattchew wrote:
On July 20 2012 08:29 Probulous wrote:
On July 20 2012 01:32 Mattchew wrote:
On July 20 2012 01:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yes that post never came. After composing some of it and it being built up so by Probulous, I reread it and realized that most of it was stuff that had been mentioned or was drawing connections between people that didn't happen.

So yeah, everyone can exhale - that post of "interesting things on reread" isn't coming. My reads post is gonna have to suffice. WAH WAH WAAAAAAH.

Cool your scum too.... this is not that hard... woulda covered your tracks better without the wah wah waaaaaah


This makes absolutely no sense...Like 0

Note to self: Risk has done nothing but defend himself and call people stupid.


His wah wah waaaah conveys deflection. He knows not making that post is scummy so he tries to play it off as if he is joking and trolling about not making the post. Its forced nonchalance to convey he is comfortable relaying a scummy message. I do it too.


The point is it would be a much better play by VE to just fake something. I gave him a ready made excuse to waffle on about early game stuff that might or might not be relevant. He knows that posting nothing looks scummy but he does it anyway. The wah wah stuff is just VE being VE.

You somehow take that to mean he is scum? At worst he was deflecting from participating but look at that, he is participating. Like I said, your post makes no sense.

The point is VE as town is more confident than needing to deflect shit away by saying stupid stuff like wah wah waaah.. I expect Town VE to be way more assertive and just say I am not writing a post about it.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 20 2012 01:06 GMT
#1945
ps. you know its much harder to fake something and get caught then to just not do anything and say wah wah waaaah

Foolishness guess what buddy?! You've been counter ignored!
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 20 2012 01:06 GMT
#1946
On July 20 2012 10:05 marvellosity wrote:
It's a dead end, Matt

so you don't want me to talk about the read or you think i should stop cause you think "im right, he's wrong"
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 20 2012 01:15 GMT
#1951
On July 20 2012 10:10 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 10:04 Mattchew wrote:
On July 20 2012 09:59 Probulous wrote:
On July 20 2012 09:55 Mattchew wrote:
On July 20 2012 08:29 Probulous wrote:
On July 20 2012 01:32 Mattchew wrote:
On July 20 2012 01:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yes that post never came. After composing some of it and it being built up so by Probulous, I reread it and realized that most of it was stuff that had been mentioned or was drawing connections between people that didn't happen.

So yeah, everyone can exhale - that post of "interesting things on reread" isn't coming. My reads post is gonna have to suffice. WAH WAH WAAAAAAH.

Cool your scum too.... this is not that hard... woulda covered your tracks better without the wah wah waaaaaah


This makes absolutely no sense...Like 0

Note to self: Risk has done nothing but defend himself and call people stupid.


His wah wah waaaah conveys deflection. He knows not making that post is scummy so he tries to play it off as if he is joking and trolling about not making the post. Its forced nonchalance to convey he is comfortable relaying a scummy message. I do it too.


The point is it would be a much better play by VE to just fake something. I gave him a ready made excuse to waffle on about early game stuff that might or might not be relevant. He knows that posting nothing looks scummy but he does it anyway. The wah wah stuff is just VE being VE.

You somehow take that to mean he is scum? At worst he was deflecting from participating but look at that, he is participating. Like I said, your post makes no sense.

The point is VE as town is more confident than needing to deflect shit away by saying stupid stuff like wah wah waaah.. I expect Town VE to be way more assertive and just say I am not writing a post about it.


Um you haven't read his recent games have you?

I've been in most of them lol...

So I was going to compare VE's response to me calling him scum vs his games as town and scum, but then I realized he probably has little to no respect for my scum hunting or voice in the thread, whereas when he reacts in those games, it is to people like Marv that he does.

That being said, I may stand corrected about my point about VE being scum there, however my eyes will be glued to his posts and filter
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