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Way I see it, with the current lead, lynch either release or zen, then grab the other the next day. If we haven't won at that point, start SERIOUSLY reconsidering our options.
Of course, it's also possible Zen is actually the DT, and Evulrabbitz is scum, but Zen knows that in the current circumstances a counterclaim would be a waste of time.
While it wouldn't seem to make direct sense to clear my name, a scum could consider giving up that piece of information a good way to be confirmed townie in an effort to coast to LYLO.
However, this may be the most absurd WIFOM hypothetical I've ever come up with. But I'm throwing it out there so we do consider the alternatives, just in case something strange is happening.
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On July 09 2012 07:39 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2012 07:29 JingleHell wrote:Of course, it's also possible Zen is actually the DT, and Evulrabbitz is scum, but Zen knows that in the current circumstances a counterclaim would be a waste of time. Waitwut!? You understand that Evul must be the DT, right?
No, I understand that it's incredibly likely he's the DT.
Or were you suggesting that it's absolutely impossible for people to lie? Just because under the circumstances it seems improbable that he's not the DT doesn't mean he must be the DT. Of course, you're so focused on being smarter than everyone else that you're not willing to think outside the box.
Why didn't you quote the part where I mentioned that I was talking about WIFOM to the point of absurdity? Because you were too busy wanting to try and beat me over the head with your ego? Pretty much.
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Evul, I did mention that it was absurd to think otherwise. I was just reminding people that we should still be willing to at least consider possibilities, just in case the wool actually is being pulled over our eyes.
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That would be pretty funny.
But yeah, I pretty much just went with the most absurd possibility I could come up with for reminding people to make an open mind so that nobody would mistake it for a good reason to try and start a case when we do have what seems to be better options.
There's a fine line between open mind and insane, after all.
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On July 09 2012 07:51 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2012 07:46 JingleHell wrote:On July 09 2012 07:39 Lazermonkey wrote:On July 09 2012 07:29 JingleHell wrote:Of course, it's also possible Zen is actually the DT, and Evulrabbitz is scum, but Zen knows that in the current circumstances a counterclaim would be a waste of time. Waitwut!? You understand that Evul must be the DT, right? No, I understand that it's incredibly likely he's the DT. Or were you suggesting that it's absolutely impossible for people to lie? Just because under the circumstances it seems improbable that he's not the DT doesn't mean he must be the DT. Of course, you're so focused on being smarter than everyone else that you're not willing to think outside the box. Why didn't you quote the part where I mentioned that I was talking about WIFOM to the point of absurdity? Because you were too busy wanting to try and beat me over the head with your ego? Pretty much. Yes, I'm making the assumption that Evul is not the most retarded person on earth. Him fake claiming at this point would mean that the only way for him to win is if the real DT doesn't counter claim. Why wouldn't the real DT counter claim in this spot? I'm not claiming to be smart, you however are simply dumb. You are a confirmed townie but that doesn't make your reads correct.
No, you're so fucking busy trying to be king shit that you can't understand the purpose of the post, and the reason I went with something absurd.
I'm guessing you've still got your panties in a bunch over me dismissing your long-winded first post and actually succeeding at starting the conversation with sex toys.
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##Vote Bassinspace
I can't imagine in what world Lazer thinks I'm going to listen to him when he alternates between coercive and insulting every time he vomits forth more ego-ridden horse shit into the thread.
Regardless, kill the miller/scum now, and worry about aftermath later. If Bass is the miller, I'd call that a good time to start looking at who voted where again, and start to reconsider some of our basic premises we've been trying to work from.
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On July 13 2012 05:01 Hapahauli wrote:
We're bandwagoning a guy with pro-town behavior on the hope and prayer that he's mafia.
This is the last newbie game I'm ever playing. I hope for my sanity that you guys are right.
If Bass isn't scum, I'd suggest you start looking closely at people who have tried to dominate the thread and control where people voted, tried to stop discussion they didn't like, tried to force reaction over thought, and made personal attacks against anyone who suggested thinking outside the box.
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On July 13 2012 05:25 Hapahauli wrote:
Jingle, I understand that you've stopped caring for this game a while ago, but don't ruin it for the rest of us.
If you'll notice, my vote wasn't the only one on Bass.
Anyway, I think if you're going to suggest that's what's happening, you should consider saying something to the people who actually ruined it? Like the people who basically decided to thump people over the head with their superiority complexes and tell them their play wasn't welcome here? Who then have the sheer, toxic, egocentric gall to suggest they suddenly have some sort of fucking right to tell me who to vote for?
Kiss my ass.
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Actually, 25% correct on scumhunting, Harry. Don't forget N1 when they were planning to lynch me D2. That's some real good odds right there. 50/50 sounds great by comparison.
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There's something about this game a lot of people seem to be forgetting. There is an intentional environment of mutual distrust. Due to the scenario, it literally does not matter what one person knows, if they can't convince other people of it.
There's a rather key social aspect to this game. If your method of play isn't conducive to people trusting you, respecting you, or having any reason whatsoever to work with you, the failure is yours as much as anyone else's. I know people like to just pick a scapegoat, since nobody likes to be wrong, but really, if you can't sell a lynch, you might as well not make a read.
That's the real reason I haven't bothered with this thread much, because every time I say something, I get shouted down. Making reads would be a waste of my time, I've essentially been told as much, and I'm not going to trust or work with people who play that way, so they may not like where my vote lands. Welcome to the game, and enjoy the knowledge of how you failed yourselves.
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On July 13 2012 06:00 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 05:43 JingleHell wrote:On July 13 2012 05:25 Hapahauli wrote:
Jingle, I understand that you've stopped caring for this game a while ago, but don't ruin it for the rest of us. If you'll notice, my vote wasn't the only one on Bass. Anyway, I think if you're going to suggest that's what's happening, you should consider saying something to the people who actually ruined it? Like the people who basically decided to thump people over the head with their superiority complexes and tell them their play wasn't welcome here? Who then have the sheer, toxic, egocentric gall to suggest they suddenly have some sort of fucking right to tell me who to vote for? Kiss my ass. Lol, this is modkill material ; ) So you actually confess that the only reason you vote for Bass is to fuck with me?
If deliberately misconstruing things was a sport, you'd be in the Olympics. Maybe you should consider that when the town is at 25% on those "definite" scumreads, you're going to have serious trouble convincing me to do what you want when you've spent the whole game beating me over the head with your alleged IQ? Pardon me while I laugh in your face.
I'm not in any way doing something worthy of a modkill. I'm just playing the game the best way I see fit, and after all the alternating condescending attitudes and failures to make good reads by certain people, I feel no compulsion to take their word for who to vote on.
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I already did. Or is the part where a 50% (DT night action) > 25% (Current Hapa read accuracy) confusing in some way?
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On July 13 2012 06:53 Lazermonkey wrote:
I hope everyone agrees with this.
Well, apparently 5 people (a majority) currently don't agree with you, so I'd have to hazard a guess that you hope in vain.
Maybe if you want people to agree with you, you should provide them with some reason to do so beyond being slightly less abrasive while they're doing so.
Don't make the mistake of assuming that just because I haven't been wasting much time with you, I must be some kind of pushover. I just have this strange thing about not wanting to waste copious amounts of my free time dealing with someone like you.
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I'm still interested in the possibility of a vote against the one person who's consistently played me-too on cases while being divisive, tried to intimidate votes, and wants to run the risk of keeping someone who's either scum or miller alive until the last minute.
Just to kind of test the waters, who'd be interested in ignoring all the WIFOM arguments that theoretically "prove" Lazer's innocence and lynching him, should Bass fail to flip scum?
Worst case scenario, we'd be able to scum-hunt in peace if he turned out to be a mislynch.
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On July 13 2012 07:26 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 07:03 JingleHell wrote:On July 13 2012 06:53 Lazermonkey wrote:
I hope everyone agrees with this. Well, apparently 5 people (a majority) currently don't agree with you, so I'd have to hazard a guess that you hope in vain. Maybe if you want people to agree with you, you should provide them with some reason to do so beyond being slightly less abrasive while they're doing so. Don't make the mistake of assuming that just because I haven't been wasting much time with you, I must be some kind of pushover. I just have this strange thing about not wanting to waste copious amounts of my free time dealing with someone like you. Wow dude. Why do you even take this personal? And you haven't read my post clearly. I hope everyone agrees with this refered to that we do get more reliable lynches the longer the game goes. Do you not agree with this. Also, I did say a reason for this. You however, have failed to provide a solid reason for why Bass is a better lynch than Mackin.
I take it personal because you made it personal. Don't cry about not getting to control the results when that happened.
I don't agree that reads get inherently "better" later in the game, because, in this game, the best read came day 1. All the other decisive reads since then have been wrong, so clearly, taking the 50% chance sounds pretty damn good when compared to the 25% accuracy of reads.
You're still doing the "beat people over the head with ego" thing, by the way. I suggest if you're going to learn how to not do that, you do it quickly, because I leave for TKD in 20 minutes, and at that point, I'm locked in.
And you're better at repeating yourself than reading, because I've already explained why my vote is where it is several times. Just because you don't like the rationale doesn't make it less reasonable. As evidenced by the fact that quite a few votes are pointed that way.
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On July 13 2012 09:43 YourHarry wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 09:41 marvellosity wrote:On July 13 2012 09:17 YourHarry wrote:
Does Tracker who gets NK'ed still receive a report on the person they investigated?
I don't think Hapha is scum either. If Bass is miller, we lynch Makin.
Tough to choose between Hapha and Lazer though. There is one reason why I don't think Hapha is a scum, which I will reveal later. How could it possibly matter? They're dead. Well he left one final message after he died 
And if he breadcrumbed in his GG post, it would be a flagrant rule violation.
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Gee, too bad we didn't listen to reason, huh Lazermonkey? Pity we lynched the miller... oh wait.
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On July 13 2012 10:10 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 10:08 JingleHell wrote:
Gee, too bad we didn't listen to reason, huh Lazermonkey? Pity we lynched the miller... oh wait. Yup, although you were wrong about me, so I guess we are 1-1 then? : )
There's a minor difference. Go through your filter, and go through mine. I tried to be reasonable about it, admitted my errors, and told people straight up I was working from my gut. You, on the other hand, were too busy trying to prove how much better you were than everyone else to think, and it earned you all kinds of mockery for being WRONG.
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On July 13 2012 10:12 Hapahauli wrote:BHAHAHA oh man, lost it when I read that (no offense Jingle =P)
Meh, you should see my steam avatar.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/owB9b.jpg)
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On July 13 2012 10:13 marvellosity wrote:
JingleHell, if you can't be nice, stop posting
Should I point you to the dozen times you should have said that to him if you wanted me to take you seriously?
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