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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 07 2012 12:11 GMT
#421
On July 07 2012 21:05 BassInSpace wrote:I also think that your logic in giving rabbitz, TMG and Makin town reads is flawed. My case against Mackin already speaks for itself, but rabbitz's last minute vote switch occurred when Hopeless was already set to lynch. Even if he hadn't switched, Hopeless would still have been lynched because he hit 5 votes first. His vote changed nothing. You could even argue that it was an attempt at being on the correct lynch to grab townie cred if you wanted to.
Ow, I didn't notice this. Well scratch what I said about Evul being 100% townie then.
Evulrabbitz
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden134 Posts
July 07 2012 13:13 GMT
#422
I also think that your logic in giving rabbitz, TMG and Makin town reads is flawed. My case against Mackin already speaks for itself, but rabbitz's last minute vote switch occurred when Hopeless was already set to lynch. Even if he hadn't switched, Hopeless would still have been lynched because he hit 5 votes first. His vote changed nothing. You could even argue that it was an attempt at being on the correct lynch to grab townie cred if you wanted to.


Will this is true to some extent, I could also have thrown my vote against Lazermonkey making it 6 votes for Lazer and 5 for Hopeless. So once again, as YourHarry first stated, my innocence lies in the innocence of Lazermonkey. Either both of us are Mafia or both of us are townies.

To elaborate on the last statement. If I were Mafia, the one case where a vote for Hopeless would have been even remotely viable for me would have been if both Lazermonkey and I are Mafia along with the now deceased Hopeless. If I were Mafia and not Lazermonkey why would I have voted for my friend to die rather than a townie? If Lazermonkey was mafia and not I why would he have voted for Hopeless rather than defending himself (which he did) and pushing a case towards some other player that has received suspicion(which he didn't)?

It's a honest mistake to make, but my vote was in fact deciding in the part that is was not for Lazermonkey.
Evulrabbitz
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden134 Posts
July 07 2012 13:14 GMT
#423
Edit: Either me and Lazermonkey and both mafia, or both townies.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 07 2012 14:26 GMT
#424
No, maybe either Lazer or you want to bus hopeless for townie cred if only either 1 of you are mafia? Most of all you won't look good at all had you casted that last minute vote on Lazer if he was townie.

Also, I found Lazer's disinterest in the hopeless lynch given all the fire he was causing quite puzzling.

Hapa, Jingle's emotional FUCK YOU posts in this game were exactly like what he'd post in the mafia QT so I have some serious BOTD on him. However I know that while being emotional, he's also smart so I can never be too sure.

Mackin, mind explaining the vote on YourHarry?
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 07 2012 14:27 GMT
#425
edit: in the mafia QT in NMM XVIII, We had up to 900 posts there.
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Evulrabbitz
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden134 Posts
July 07 2012 14:35 GMT
#426
No, maybe either Lazer or you want to bus hopeless for townie cred if only either 1 of you are mafia? Most of all you won't look good at all had you casted that last minute vote on Lazer if he was townie.


I'm sorry I don't understand this. Please elaborate.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
July 07 2012 14:36 GMT
#427
On July 07 2012 14:38 YourHarry wrote:
EDBWOP (Edits bolded):
For similar reason, this also clears evulrabbitz. After TMG's vote, lazer, as expected, voted for hopeless, which tied their votes at 5 a piece. Evulrabbitz then broke the tie, voting for hopeless, 23 minutes before the deadline. At these time points which were so close to the deadline, it was clear that each of their votes would make a definite impact. Especially since there was no clear consensus on hopeless being the scum (except for hapahuli, even people who were voting for him, myself included, projected their doubt on hopeless being scum but that it was the better choice between lazer and hopeless) it would not have been that suspicious to place their lynch deciding vote on lazer, rather than hopeless.



I only noticed it now, but lazer voted before me, his vote is immidiatly before mod's votecount, and the votecount doesnt included him..

When Evul voted it was 5-5 with advantage for Hopeless because he reached 5 first, Evul voting Hopeless didnt decide the lynch but secured the lynch
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 07 2012 14:54 GMT
#428
On July 07 2012 23:26 JieXian wrote:Also, I found Lazer's disinterest in the hopeless lynch given all the fire he was causing quite puzzling.
I wasn't at home last night -.-
Evulrabbitz
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden134 Posts
July 07 2012 14:57 GMT
#429
When Evul voted it was 5-5 with advantage for Hopeless because he reached 5 first, Evul voting Hopeless didnt decide the lynch but secured the lynch


What I was trying to say with my last post; My vote did in fact secure the lynch on Hopeless, but not from the aspect you are looking at it.

By voting for anyone but LazerMonkey I did in fact decide the outcome of the D1 lynch. It doesn't matter that I voted for Hopeless, since he would have been lynched anyway. What matter is that I did not vote for Lazermonkey since then there would have been more votes on Lazer than on Hopeless.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 07 2012 15:00 GMT
#430
On July 07 2012 23:35 Evulrabbitz wrote:
Show nested quote +
No, maybe either Lazer or you want to bus hopeless for townie cred if only either 1 of you are mafia? Most of all you won't look good at all had you casted that last minute vote on Lazer if he was townie.


I'm sorry I don't understand this. Please elaborate.


If you're mafia but not Lazer: If you did a last minute vote to save hopeless and Lazer and he flips townie you'll probably be lynched next. The logical choice is to bus.

If Lazer is mafia but not you: His case against Jingle or me wasn't be successful at that time so he just chose to bus hopeless to save himself.

Hapa before you drive to the library I'm just pointing out the flaws in Evul's argument.
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Evulrabbitz
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden134 Posts
July 07 2012 15:04 GMT
#431
If you're mafia but not Lazer: If you did a last minute vote to save hopeless and Lazer and he flips townie you'll probably be lynched next. The logical choice is to bus.


Would the logical choice really be me? Wouldn't it be the one who pushed the case?

That's like saying if Hopeless turned townie the logical choice would be to lynch me and not Hapa(who pushed the case against him)
Evulrabbitz
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden134 Posts
July 07 2012 15:05 GMT
#432
I'm sorry, I failed with BBCode

the part above the lines is the quote, if that wasn't obvious
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
July 07 2012 15:06 GMT
#433
On July 07 2012 23:57 Evulrabbitz wrote:
Show nested quote +
When Evul voted it was 5-5 with advantage for Hopeless because he reached 5 first, Evul voting Hopeless didnt decide the lynch but secured the lynch


What I was trying to say with my last post; My vote did in fact secure the lynch on Hopeless, but not from the aspect you are looking at it.

By voting for anyone but LazerMonkey I did in fact decide the outcome of the D1 lynch. It doesn't matter that I voted for Hopeless, since he would have been lynched anyway. What matter is that I did not vote for Lazermonkey since then there would have been more votes on Lazer than on Hopeless.



but look, if you kept your vote on jingle for example, Mackin or Khorrus could "magically" apear and vote for Lazer

but by voting on Hopeless, the two of them needed to vote for lazer.. and i couldn't see Khorrus returning
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 07 2012 15:32 GMT
#434
On July 08 2012 00:04 Evulrabbitz wrote:
If you're mafia but not Lazer: If you did a last minute vote to save hopeless and Lazer and he flips townie you'll probably be lynched next. The logical choice is to bus.
Show nested quote +


Would the logical choice really be me? Wouldn't it be the one who pushed the case?

That's like saying if Hopeless turned townie the logical choice would be to lynch me and not Hapa(who pushed the case against him)


What? Do you mind explaining what you thought I meant?
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Evulrabbitz
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden134 Posts
July 07 2012 15:33 GMT
#435
but look, if you kept your vote on jingle for example, Mackin or Khorrus could "magically" apear and vote for Lazer

but by voting on Hopeless, the two of them needed to vote for lazer.. and i couldn't see Khorrus returning


That is true. I thought my vote was the last possible. Regardless, it does not weaken my case, it does rather the opposite.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 07 2012 15:41 GMT
#436
On July 07 2012 23:26 JieXian wrote:
Hapa, Jingle's emotional FUCK YOU posts in this game were exactly like what he'd post in the mafia QT so I have some serious BOTD on him. However I know that while being emotional, he's also smart so I can never be too sure.


After thinking for some time, JingleHell's behavior was nothing like his NMMXVIII when he was about to be line. His posted carefully and with a lot of control, trying hard to appear confident, (well he actually is confident that the other guy is a dumbass of course) while being a more natural person in the QT, expressing himself like anyone would if he was about to be lynched.

WIFOM won't be a problem either beacuse it won't make sense to act the way he did because I'm the only one who knows this side of him.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 07 2012 15:42 GMT
#437
edit: when he was about to be lynched
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BassInSpace
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia165 Posts
July 07 2012 15:46 GMT
#438
Evul, have a look at what JieXian just said. You saving Hopeless so late would have made you look very bad. Bussing Hopeless would make sense. That is the reason you are not "cleared" as YourHarry put it.
BassInSpace
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia165 Posts
July 07 2012 15:51 GMT
#439
So I just got ninjad like 5 times over because I didn't refresh for so long, but anyway...

Evul, JieXian is saying that the logical choice for you if you are scum and Lazer is town was to vote for Hopeless because if you hadn't and Lazer flipped green, you would have looked quite scummy, and not only would Hopeless have had a high chance of being lynched the next day anyway, you would also be compromised and under heavy scrutiny.
Evulrabbitz
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden134 Posts
July 07 2012 15:55 GMT
#440
What? Do you mind explaining what you thought I meant?


As I interpreted it, you claim that if I would've voted for Lazermonkey, which would lead to the death of him, and he flips green; I would have been the next logical lynch.

Is that what you meant?
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