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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 09 2012 02:49 GMT
#524
Hah, with prplhz' check this game could be over today.

##Vote VisceraEyes
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 09 2012 15:29 GMT
#556
marv I said his game could be over in the sense that the scum theme of this game is apathy / laziness. Am I ripping off what incognito did in Mafia L? Yea. drwiggl3s flips town. I can see how Sinensis could be stubborn / unco-operative town this game. prplhz looks townish to me. Therefore from scum perspective town is totally wrong and they don't really have to risk vocally doing something noticeable. Kinda like how after the bout in Movie Mini was over scum were easy to pick off.

We have what, 3 blue claims? From my perspective all I have to do is pick out 3 scum from 7 players and evaluate the blue claims. And I think all three claims are looking legit. I was toying with the idea that it wouldn't make sense from balance, but that would be pointless because 3 blues could be sensible depending on scum roles, of which the only we could know of beside lynching & flipping is an rber.


I was and very much am for a MrZentor lynch as well.
##Vote: MrZentor
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 09 2012 15:30 GMT
#558
Yo MrZentor,

I (slOosh), the main pusher for the Sinensis lynch, has decided he is looking townish even in light of everything I said D1. Clearly there is reason behind this. I'm not there to piggyback off anymore.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 09 2012 19:11 GMT
#595
On July 09 2012 06:35 slOosh wrote:
His prplhz vote doesn't make any sense either. The only post made was when prplhz blamed people for making him out himself as cop. Well from a scum perspective it doesn't really make sense to draw attention back onto yourself when everyone else has somewhat accepted your claim. And for someone so keen on perspectives how he can neglect it against prplhz yet turn around and use the same reasoning against Sinensis, the inconsisteny reveals that there is an agenda behind his posts.


VE could you address this?

Also, you keep calling prplhz' cop claim as BS. Yet you choose to pursue a Sinensis lynch. Why?

Lastly, you haven't asked me a single question as to why I think Sinensis isn't worth lynching anymore, when I was the main advocate for a Sinensis lynch on D1. Am I not worth convincing, or at least discussing with?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 09 2012 19:59 GMT
#598
On July 10 2012 04:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
I assume it's because you think I'm scum and I'm all about it slOosh. If I'm wrong go ahead and fill me in, but you're reading my change in style as scummy caution and there's nothing I can do about that.

I don't know what I think about prplhz because I've been ignoring everything he posts. I thought he was scum earlier and when I laid off because his posting picked up he immediately called me scum. So frankly I have no idea how to read the guy without bias and as such I'm leaving his fate to town. I'll admit that discrediting him needlessly is probably anti-town, but honestly there's nothing I can do about that.


And my last question concerning Sinensis?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 09 2012 20:02 GMT
#600
On July 10 2012 04:52 Dangeresque77 wrote:
SlOosh what do you think about a mrzentor, Ve scum team?

Connections need flips. I see them suspicious as individuals. Thus I could see them in a scum team but it's not good practice to pursue that kind of scum hunting until we get some confirmed flips.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 09 2012 20:02 GMT
#601
On July 10 2012 05:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
To be frank I'm not discussing with anyone slOosh, it's nothing personal.

Ask marv how much I've interacted with him this game.

So you've given up on the game? Why?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 09 2012 20:13 GMT
#605
So you think MrZentor is town?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 09 2012 20:30 GMT
#608
Forget this. VE is being extremely passive aggressive and unhelpful, and he isn't reading.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 09 2012 20:30 GMT
#609
Alright, do we start looking for last scum or do we just chill till the flip marv?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 09 2012 20:44 GMT
#614
No. There is no discussion here. I'm not going to be goaded into pointless drivel and crap on the thread. I'm done with you VE.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 10 2012 16:02 GMT
#677
I don't care who we lynch, I think they are both scum.

On July 09 2012 06:35 slOosh wrote:
Yea I'm in the same boat as Zeph and prplhz. I'd lynch VE tomorrow.
...
MrZentor also good lynch.
This is before D2 starts.

On July 09 2012 11:49 slOosh wrote:
Hah, with prplhz' check this game could be over today.

##Vote VisceraEyes
On July 10 2012 00:29 slOosh wrote:
I was and very much am for a MrZentor lynch as well.
##Vote: MrZentor


On that note I don't trust prplhz for his 3rd subtle accusation against me. Really, that last line
On July 10 2012 19:52 prplhz wrote:
Why did slOosh change away from some guy who he says he thinks is pretty much confirmed mafia just to lynch some easy target in zentor?

is totally unnecessary for the post he made. It's casting doubt on me, its a misinterpretation (I never called him as such, the vote switch happened much earlier in the day following marv's pressure on MrZentor), and defends MrZentor as an "easy" target. For someone who overly uses the phrases "I don't really know what to think", "This really seems", "I think you might be" concerning MrZentor's alignment, blatantly calling him an easy target is a huge contradiction.

Based on this alone, I speculate a prplhz, VE, MrZentor team with MrZentor as rber based on how the day has been playing out and the lynch direction has been going. However we lynch one scum at a time. I'm comfortable with lynching all three as individuals, and even more so as a team. I also want to consolidate. I'll be trusting marv's and Zephirdd's judgements here. My preference however goes to MrZentor based on how they are keen to redirect the lynch.

##Unvote MrZentor
##Vote VisceraEyes

(I'll be checking up online all day so consider my vote good on whoever).
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 10 2012 19:18 GMT
#691
On July 11 2012 01:05 marvellosity wrote:
slOosh, could you address the point made by prplhz/myself about Zentor's aggressiveness towards me?

It boils down to "hey scum won't be that scummy would they?" and the fact that you are asking that question shows that the strategy of "be scummy" a viable one. Remove the MrZentor tag off - would you lynch this guy? I would. You could argue that he plays like scum as town, but then if you make that consession how would you ever know if he is scum? If MrZentor rolls scum is town auto lose?

Honestly scum are in a situation where they have little to none thread control.
1) They were complacent D1 because we were lynching townies, and a drastic change in thread direction will surely be noted
2) We have a confirmed town that they have to go through, so manipulation is more difficult

So what are they going to do when one of their own gets caught? All they can do is bus for the town cred, or do subtle misdirections (such as bring up another lynch candidate). I didn't get any bad vibes from Zephirdd and so aside from us three I don't think scum have clout to do anything but pull out such cards as "passive aggressiveness" and "too scummy to be scum".

Or you could go the other way around. Three players must be scum, and conversely the remaining players must be town. Who looks towniest and whatever you have leftover is scum. Bluelightz is a ? for me, I think Zeph and danger are town, you are confirmed and therefore scum must be in the leftovers. If I had to pick out a town out of those 4, it wouldn't be MrZentor.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 10 2012 21:00 GMT
#693
No thanks VE, we can talk post game.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 10 2012 21:18 GMT
#698
I'm not allowing it because there is no purpose to it. You state that my logic backward and convoluted. Of course I would rebut that. My thinking process is the same, I haven't consciously changed my play aside from WBG's advice to push my gut reads which I consistently did D1 with Sinensis. The early vote on drwiggl3s I've explained already.

You say that I'm not even considering the possibility that you might be town. Sure I did. It's just when you never really contributed, did some scummy stuff and with the pool of possible scum is so small, it's not that hard to come to such a conclusion. Plus this is really roundabout discussion. Are you trying to figure out if I'm scum or are you trying to gather information to prove to town that I am scum? Because you've done everything except actually call me scum.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 10 2012 21:19 GMT
#700
On July 11 2012 06:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
CHRIST if I'm up against a slOosh/marv scumteam I'm literally going to cry.

Like, literally guys.

Haha, yea VE ok we are done here. See you post game.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 11 2012 00:41 GMT
#750
Don't let the passive aggressive get to you. I'm not going to switch if you are actually wavering in your read of VE, since it means he will be alive D3 and probably marv's gonna get shot and I dunno if you have the guts to pull off a VE lynch.

Striking parallel between this and Pick Your Poison, where Radfield pushed for Toad.

I know I said I'd be fine with lynching both, but not if you are starting to think VE could be town, because that will hurt us so much late game.

As I said, I'll be here to deadline.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 11 2012 00:59 GMT
#768
On June 30 2012 04:54 GMarshal wrote:
Broken Mind (Mafia Godfather/Strongarm)
You are the remnants of what was once a dreamer, but whose experiences in reality have broken your mind and your will to live. Now you just want everything to end, and so you have cast your lot with the Aberrations. Besides possessing the normal aberration traits, you are a completely normal person, making the psychologist think you are Not Aberrant. However, you have the remnants of your rage, rattling around somewhere in your brain. During any night in the game, you may become a full fledged Aberration, (returning Aberrant to the psychologist for the rest of the game, including that night) and infuse a single kp with extra power, allowing it to count as 2kp for the purpose of piercing any protection.

Please read. Please please read. I'm sick of people not reading.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 11 2012 00:59 GMT
#769
On June 30 2012 04:54 GMarshal wrote:
During any night in the game, you may become a full fledged Aberration, (returning Aberrant to the psychologist for the rest of the game, including that night) and infuse a single kp with extra power, allowing it to count as 2kp for the purpose of piercing any protection.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 11 2012 01:08 GMT
#771
That depends on if they have a godfather. Also you should keep in mind the validity of prphlz's claim at all times.
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