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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 12:42 GMT
#702
Igrok is trolling. Welcome to the list with BM and lyter as people I will never play with. It isn't the hardest list to get onto, so don't feel too bad.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 12:44 GMT
#703
On July 05 2012 21:40 HomerunBat wrote:
I really didn't like his behavior as the town reads became stronger. He ran out of room to hide. I posted a BS case on Tali and Saturn jumped all over it.

Risen, for your suggestion to be true, not only would dedede have to be lying, but so would grush, who is town in your scenario.


How is grush lying? He shot cephiro it got bounced to me. I'll drop my harping on cephiro/dedede if you can show me the lie. I'm all for the confirmed town cephiro/dedede circle jerk if grush is lying.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 12:57 GMT
#706
On July 05 2012 21:48 HomerunBat wrote:
Cancel that, I had assumed that your theory had dedede lying about the switch. You said clearly earlier that that wasn't the case.

I still think dedede is town though. It's the simplest explanation.


Why isn't mine the simplest explanation? New to mafia grush trusts my judgement on cephiro (bc he thinks I'm town) and shoots cephiro. Dedede and cephiro cook up their bus driver plan and use their mafia bullet on cephiro while simultaneously protecting cephiro with the bus. Dedede doesn't need the protection since everyone pretty much thinks he's town. He's also right in his initial assessment that no one will shoot me bc no one thinks I'm scum so it's a safe bus for his buddy cephiro.

Simple, effective, and look at all the town cred they got. And I would have been all with it had cephiro not played like an idiot and said igrok was his most town read.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:00 GMT
#707
I like my case more than igroks because it gives everyone the benefit of not being idiots. The only problem I have with it is the silence coming from ms/tali/grush, but it's just 9am now on the east coast, so I'm not surprised by their absence.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:03 GMT
#709
do I need to re pm hosts if I only sent push cephiro and not ##push cephiro?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:05 GMT
#711
On July 05 2012 22:02 iGrok wrote:
you like your case more than mine because in yours you don't die and get to shoot people.


You have yet to say anything constructive about my case. Why is it wrong? I expected more than this trash from someone who hosts. I hope you're mafia. Then I can say gg you got me and not have to put you on my list of people I'll never play with.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:07 GMT
#712
On July 05 2012 22:05 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 22:03 Risen wrote:
do I need to re pm hosts if I only sent push cephiro and not ##push cephiro?

Lol. You know what would take less effort asking this? Just PMing ##push. So why are you saying this in public?


I'm in san francisco on my phone. Going through the pm process is a pain, plus if anyone else was wondering about this it will be answered. How are you a host of anything?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:21 GMT
#716
On July 05 2012 22:10 HomerunBat wrote:
Risen, if you really think dedede is scum, then make the case using his filter. Your scenario is possible, yes, but it doesn't stand on it's own merits just because it is possible. If dedede is scum then his filter will have scummy stuff in it. I looked, and I don't see it. If you want to convince people, show us how he is scummy.


What scummy stuff does anyone need this game? If I was scum on that team I'd push grush, then I'd push tali, then risen, then igrok if it even mattered at that point. Know what's screwing us right now? Lurking. Wtf grush where you at? posting a lot is pro town bc you can be caught in lies, examined for logical play by what you do compared to what you say, etc. posting a lot: very rarely bad for town, neutral for scum. Lurking: very often bad for town, rarely bad for scum.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:25 GMT
#719
On July 05 2012 22:17 iGrok wrote:
Lol, you're attacking my credibility as a host? What?

Anyways, your "case" is that Cephiro and dedede are scum together? Is that right?


Ok, for the moment I'll suspend my read on you.
I just... literally everyone is scummier than those two. Literally. Even me. I don't understand why you think they are scum, other than that its a convenient reasoning for the night actions. But this means that they would have had to plan it since the early part of Day1 when dedede claimed (10 hours into D1). So their goal was to make Ceph look like a townie. But lets look at their other actions.

Cephiro fully supports the Kingmaker plan. dedede also fully supports it.
But most importantly, dedede pushes a lynch off of tali. if the scum team is Ceph&dedede, he wouldn't do that.


Why not? He pushes it from one townie to another in that scenario. I'm not saying it's rock solid. I'm all for lynching grush right now. If he flips town I think my case gains a lot of steam, if he's scum I'm going to die but then I think it narrows it down to tali/ms as the last scum.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:27 GMT
#722
On July 05 2012 22:23 iGrok wrote:
Push Risen. Kill us both. Then lynch grush.


I'm not carrying you I'm carrying cephiro. I like the ms push since that pretty much makes you invulnerable should ms be scum.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:31 GMT
#725
On July 05 2012 22:25 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 22:25 Risen wrote:
On July 05 2012 22:17 iGrok wrote:
Lol, you're attacking my credibility as a host? What?

Anyways, your "case" is that Cephiro and dedede are scum together? Is that right?


Ok, for the moment I'll suspend my read on you.
I just... literally everyone is scummier than those two. Literally. Even me. I don't understand why you think they are scum, other than that its a convenient reasoning for the night actions. But this means that they would have had to plan it since the early part of Day1 when dedede claimed (10 hours into D1). So their goal was to make Ceph look like a townie. But lets look at their other actions.

Cephiro fully supports the Kingmaker plan. dedede also fully supports it.
But most importantly, dedede pushes a lynch off of tali. if the scum team is Ceph&dedede, he wouldn't do that.


Why not? He pushes it from one townie to another in that scenario. I'm not saying it's rock solid. I'm all for lynching grush right now. If he flips town I think my case gains a lot of steam, if he's scum I'm going to die but then I think it narrows it down to tali/ms as the last scum.

Yes, we'll lynch grush.

But we're pushing you first.


Right you do that. Meanwhile anyone with half a brain will be pushing ms. I'll be changing my carry to ms as well.

Here's my reasoning. If ms is scum and I get pushed it makes you invulnerable. If ms gets pushed you're invulnerable. Either way you're going to be sitting pretty.

This falls apart if cephiro/dedede are scum though. We should be able to kill them once it's realized they're scum, though (if they are)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:34 GMT
#728
On July 05 2012 22:29 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 22:27 Risen wrote:
On July 05 2012 22:23 iGrok wrote:
Push Risen. Kill us both. Then lynch grush.


I'm not carrying you I'm carrying cephiro. I like the ms push since that pretty much makes you invulnerable should ms be scum.

When did you switch your carry?


I'm on my phone and really don't want to dig for it. I clearly announced I was carrying cephiro, though. (has changed to ms as soon as I go through and pm all the mods)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:35 GMT
#729
On July 05 2012 22:32 iGrok wrote:
How does pushing Saturn make me "invulnerable" lol.

You think Ceph and dedede are scum so you want to push saturn?


It's becoming clear you don't actually read my posts.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:36 GMT
#731
DERP, our carry changes at night. Sorry igrok.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:38 GMT
#732
On July 05 2012 22:35 iGrok wrote:
I mean, was it at night or today


I sent it in during this whole argument and thought it changed immediately. Doesn't change until night, my bad.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:40 GMT
#733
My plan is logical. But my plan was the logical one when I was the detective and no one followed that so I don't know what I'm expecting here.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:44 GMT
#736
EBWOP: this is great! Push ms, lynch grush. If town, dedede/cephiro mafia, if scum, lynch risen (town flip) then lynch tali/ms(I'm assuming ms will be dead at this point, though)

Problem here: igrok or homerun are scum. Then gg, you played well and I was fooled.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:48 GMT
#737
I'm of course assuming dedede isn't scum if grush is. A bus on cephiro with grush as a team mate still gets dedede the cred he needs, but I'm not seeing him being scum in that scenario. Why not use your bus to protect your team mate.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 13:59 GMT
#738
Everyone went to sleep :/
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 14:12 GMT
#740
On July 05 2012 23:02 iGrok wrote:
@HRB:
I'm more convinced Risen is scum than Saturn. Thats why.
But, you've given me an idea. Ceph, will you shoot saturn tonight?


You're not this stupid. I know you're not. You can't be. So why is igrok being so stupid. I'm blank, does anyone else know why he would be doing this? I can only think that he's afraid of dedede/cephiro team shooting him and removing his last stock, so he acts dense, but at the same time he knows pushing me into the lava will kill himself, so what gives?

He must be 100% that I'm scum in order to be willing to trade lives, but why? Are you stupid enough to think there has to be a dk on both sides, and then you'll complain that it's imbalanced for town to have 2 dks post game? (i must admit I auto thought you were scum when you were revealed as dk for this reason, but then I actually used my brain. if you kill me under the mistaken impression town can only have one dk don't bitch about it post game)

His play literally makes no sense.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
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