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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 11:13 GMT
#653
On July 05 2012 20:07 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:01 HomerunBat wrote:
remember to PM push choices to the hosts, don't think they count here. could be wrong though.

Cephiro, are you considering switching iGrok and Risen on the item stances?


I'm still having a hard time seeing why Risen is a townie based on his actions so far, and carrying my previously strongest townread doesn't exactly help that either. I'll have to read his filter again, but I just can't get over the fact that he was bashing a plan for attributes that his own plan was even worse at, and on top of that he's been changing his target rapidly. I just don't see it as something a townie would do. If he really is town, then he's playing really poorly in my opinion. (No offense.)

So to answer your question, no, not yet.


Lol, iGrok your strongest town read? Igrok is no ones strongest town read what a joke. After igrok flips i think Cephiro needs to die next.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 11:17 GMT
#655
On July 05 2012 20:13 HomerunBat wrote:
Risen, there is 5 people in your list above, yet you say 4 at the end. Do you include Cephiro in that list?


The post is directed at Cephiro and since I don't expect him to kill himself that leaves four people. I didn't honestly think anyone could think scum was outside those five but sure if you think scum is outside those five I'd like to hear your thoughts
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 11:19 GMT
#656
On July 05 2012 20:14 HomerunBat wrote:
You must have missed the part where you and Cephiro were switched and you ate the scum KP. That means it was aimed at Cephiro.


You mean if dede is telling the truth, right? A breadcrumb isn't a role or alignment confirmation until you're dead.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 11:22 GMT
#657
EBWOP: But your implication is right. Cephiro looks pretty town. That means we got saddled with at least one confirmed bad as town :/ (no offense, but igrok strongest town read? Lulz, who else in this game can honestly say that)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 11:30 GMT
#659
On July 05 2012 20:23 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:13 Risen wrote:
Lol, iGrok your strongest town read? Igrok is no ones strongest town read what a joke. After igrok flips i think Cephiro needs to die next.


Learn to read. Previously. I'd still kill you before iGrok happily.

Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:10 Risen wrote:
Also, I saw earlier someone questioning my vote swap, so here's a counter question. Why are you asking?

My vote swap literally meant nothing. It didn't affect the game at all. Asking that question and trying to cast doubt on me is scummy as shit. The answer is bci wanted tali lynched, though. Seems fairly obvious to me. I wasn't comfortable with Cephiro's late vote on grush one bit.


So because I changed my vote from you to grush (From the person I wanted killed the most, to the person I wanted killed the 2nd most), you think my vote was scummy? I seriously don't understand what the hell you are doing in this game, your logic is repeatingly blame others for the same flaws you do in a worse manner yourself. So your vote swap meant nothing, but my obvious late vote did? (Yeah, I said I would change to grush if you wouldn't get lynched, so how was it a scummy vote?)

So again you are blaming someone for random shit, and painting yourself as innocent when if we look at things by your own logic, you are the most scummy player in the game.

So yes, I think there is a scum outside of tali/grush/iGrok/Saturn.


That's fine, I'll gladly be your fifth on that list since no other townie honestly considers me scum. Just don't let me calling you bad cloud your judgement. Post game we can clink cups and laugh about how silly (read as: why are you the only one who finds me scummy) you were.

It's legitimately hard for me to fathom you're town. I don't think dedede is stupid enough to out himself like that, though.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 11:37 GMT
#661
Food for thought in the thread: bus cephiro and risen. Shoot cephiro. Dedede says: Hey guys look at my breadcrumb!

Meanwhile in mafia chat: omg we got lucky and grush shot cephiro too!

Scum team: dedede and cephiro.

Any flaws in that logic? I like it, because it gives cephiro benefit of the doubt on not being horrible. Only problem is I really liked dedede. His name is so good :/
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 11:39 GMT
#662
On July 05 2012 20:32 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:30 Risen wrote:
It's legitimately hard for me to fathom you're town.


I guess we agree on one thing then. :p


Smiley face. He's scum.

##push cephiro
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 11:42 GMT
#665
On July 05 2012 20:40 HomerunBat wrote:
The problem is that there is just about nothing in dedede's filter to support the theory that he is scum.


Yeah. I'm having trouble coping with the news, too :/
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 11:46 GMT
#667
On July 05 2012 20:40 Mister Saturn wrote:
can't we just vig shoot igrok tonight? If you let me and hiro we will do it and then the bus driver can protect us

i'm probably gonna vote to push talismania.

And @risen: the problem is i think he could have done more damage to town if he hadn't revealed that he was the yoshi, that would be like a super double-think scum move. I guess its possible though.


Bad logic, you answer yourself. Look at how much town cred this got dedede and cephiro. Everyone is asking them for item/placements. Outrageous in execution, but it almost worked! If cephiro hadn't blundered I would never have thought about it.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 11:48 GMT
#669
On July 05 2012 20:45 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:37 Risen wrote:
Food for thought in the thread: bus cephiro and risen. Shoot cephiro. Dedede says: Hey guys look at my breadcrumb!

Meanwhile in mafia chat: omg we got lucky and grush shot cephiro too!

Scum team: dedede and cephiro.

Any flaws in that logic? I like it, because it gives cephiro benefit of the doubt on not being horrible. Only problem is I really liked dedede. His name is so good :/


.... Just wow. Is there anyone but yourself left that you haven't accused of being scum now? Talk about grasping at straws. Could you please point me one single pro-town thing you've done this game? All you do is create new controversies to cause more confusion. Next night feel free to pick me up, because if you're alive I'm shooting you.

Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 20:39 Risen wrote:
Smiley face. He's scum.

##push cephiro


This logic. I cannot fathom.


No martyring, you've been picked up.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 11:50 GMT
#670
On July 05 2012 20:48 HomerunBat wrote:
Wait...you seriously think dedede and cephiro are the scum team?


Maybe I should take a break, but I think it's a very real possibility. If I was wrong I would have expected scum to be jumping on this case, which is part of the reason I made it lol.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 12:02 GMT
#675
I like how your post doesn't consider my case as a possibility igrok rofl.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 12:04 GMT
#676
Also, igrok doesn't KNOW grush is scum. Only scum KNOW anything.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 12:06 GMT
#680
On July 05 2012 20:57 HomerunBat wrote:
I don't want to close my mind to any possibility, but I think the simplest explanation in this case is true. You, Cephiro, and dedede are all 3 town.

Some people don't agree that you are town, but I really think you are. If you are scum, then good job screwing with my head.

Cephiro, I linked Risen's past games in an earlier post of mine. I'd like you to take a look. TL mafia LI and LIII.


You're probably right. I think the grush lynch will tell us a lot. Interesting that igrok wants to push me in and kill me, though. He'd be killing himself in the process. Means he REALLY thinks I'm scum.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 12:11 GMT
#684
ugh it makes no sense. Igrok can't be scum. I'm not seeing what he's getting here. Igroks post and complete ignoring of a potential flaw in his argument screams scum. but he knows killing me kills him, which doesn't scream scum. Sigh...

igrok stop fuckin trolling me and answer why my post doesn't apply
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 12:13 GMT
#685
Yup, fuck this. I'm in san francisco and I refuse to carry you derps. Gg cephiro/dedede/grush/tali
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 12:18 GMT
#686
Sending in my final actions. Carrying Cephiro and igrok if you're mafia who just saved himself by simultaneously convincing town I'm scum and convincing me you're town I'll nominate you over myself for top play 2012. Godspeed town.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 12:21 GMT
#689
EBWOP: also, ## push cephiro. Lynch grush. If he flips scum lynch tali, if he doesn't go after cephiro/dedede. I don't think we can lose if you guys follow that.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 12:29 GMT
#694
Igrok I clearly meant you shouldn't consider me apikachu like others were thinking. Cephiro is literally jerking himself off right now on you igrok.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
July 05 2012 12:37 GMT
#700
Meanwhile we have everyone and their mother disregarding a possible cephiro/dedede team. Bend over and take it boys.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
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