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On June 28 2012 22:54 Mattchew wrote:
Marv
To simplify your process I will give you a step by step of how you should approach everything.
We are in Lynch Scum or Lose. Mis-lynching town or the SK will result in a scum victory
The first and MOST IMPORTANT thing you need to do is come up with a final read on Risk.
The reason for this, is that he is pretty much the only player 100% guaranteed not to be the SK.
Personally I believe him to be town. I don't think there is any logical reason for scum to hold their RB when I believe the SK has been hunting them all game (Zeph then Xsksc were scummy targets that I doubt scum would shoot at and I believe SK shot at them to kill mafia). It would be extremely bold of them to hold their RB and increase the chances of one of them being hit by SK.
If you disagree, I feel that you must vote and lynch Risk because if you are correct, he will flip scum 100%. There is no one else you can say this for.
If you agree with my assessment that Risk is town, then you have 5 players left, 4 of which are not town. I think the first step you must take is trying to remove the remaining townie from the pool of 5. This way (and this is so weird to actually say out loud) you can start to play connect-the-scum, something that normally can demolish town. However in this scenario, it is actually the best way to try and lynch a scum team member over the SK or townie.
Any route you choose I will support, other than voting me for lynch. I also will help you think out your reads if you would like my opinions. Basically Marv, the game comes down to your reads, no one else's, if you read the situation as Risk being town then his reads also matter, but until that point, the game is on your shoulders.
This is a very levelheaded and well thought out post, which coincides on my read that you are not scum.
I agree we shouldn't lynch you today. And if you really aren't scum then VE may have saved the game with his shenanigans last night. What do you feel about my post and its possible scum targets. I know we need marv on board to do anything but I would like your input.
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Also since I am sure it will be brought up, Yes I am flip-flopping on my two biggest scum reads that I pushed all game long, it also means everyone was correct and I played horribly from the beginning tunneling people I shouldn't have.
I still don't want to change my mind, but the logic says that they are not scum and I can't fight with that as it is the best lead town has right now.
Post game I will discuss more and hopefully get some insight on what I did wrong until then lets lynch scum.
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On June 28 2012 23:01 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 22:54 Mattchew wrote:
Marv
To simplify your process I will give you a step by step of how you should approach everything.
We are in Lynch Scum or Lose. Mis-lynching town or the SK will result in a scum victory
The first and MOST IMPORTANT thing you need to do is come up with a final read on Risk.
The reason for this, is that he is pretty much the only player 100% guaranteed not to be the SK.
Personally I believe him to be town. I don't think there is any logical reason for scum to hold their RB when I believe the SK has been hunting them all game (Zeph then Xsksc were scummy targets that I doubt scum would shoot at and I believe SK shot at them to kill mafia). It would be extremely bold of them to hold their RB and increase the chances of one of them being hit by SK.
If you disagree, I feel that you must vote and lynch Risk because if you are correct, he will flip scum 100%. There is no one else you can say this for.
If you agree with my assessment that Risk is town, then you have 5 players left, 4 of which are not town. I think the first step you must take is trying to remove the remaining townie from the pool of 5. This way (and this is so weird to actually say out loud) you can start to play connect-the-scum, something that normally can demolish town. However in this scenario, it is actually the best way to try and lynch a scum team member over the SK or townie.
Any route you choose I will support, other than voting me for lynch. I also will help you think out your reads if you would like my opinions. Basically Marv, the game comes down to your reads, no one else's, if you read the situation as Risk being town then his reads also matter, but until that point, the game is on your shoulders.
This is a very levelheaded and well thought out post, which coincides on my read that you are not scum. I agree we shouldn't lynch you today. And if you really aren't scum then VE may have saved the game with his shenanigans last night. What do you feel about my post and its possible scum targets. I know we need marv on board to do anything but I would like your input.
I mean I dont think you are the SK and I think town is me/marv/risk so I dont really care much for your opinions no offense
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On June 28 2012 23:13 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 23:01 rastaban wrote:On June 28 2012 22:54 Mattchew wrote:
Marv
To simplify your process I will give you a step by step of how you should approach everything.
We are in Lynch Scum or Lose. Mis-lynching town or the SK will result in a scum victory
The first and MOST IMPORTANT thing you need to do is come up with a final read on Risk.
The reason for this, is that he is pretty much the only player 100% guaranteed not to be the SK.
Personally I believe him to be town. I don't think there is any logical reason for scum to hold their RB when I believe the SK has been hunting them all game (Zeph then Xsksc were scummy targets that I doubt scum would shoot at and I believe SK shot at them to kill mafia). It would be extremely bold of them to hold their RB and increase the chances of one of them being hit by SK.
If you disagree, I feel that you must vote and lynch Risk because if you are correct, he will flip scum 100%. There is no one else you can say this for.
If you agree with my assessment that Risk is town, then you have 5 players left, 4 of which are not town. I think the first step you must take is trying to remove the remaining townie from the pool of 5. This way (and this is so weird to actually say out loud) you can start to play connect-the-scum, something that normally can demolish town. However in this scenario, it is actually the best way to try and lynch a scum team member over the SK or townie.
Any route you choose I will support, other than voting me for lynch. I also will help you think out your reads if you would like my opinions. Basically Marv, the game comes down to your reads, no one else's, if you read the situation as Risk being town then his reads also matter, but until that point, the game is on your shoulders.
This is a very levelheaded and well thought out post, which coincides on my read that you are not scum. I agree we shouldn't lynch you today. And if you really aren't scum then VE may have saved the game with his shenanigans last night. What do you feel about my post and its possible scum targets. I know we need marv on board to do anything but I would like your input. I mean I dont think you are the SK and I think town is me/marv/risk so I dont really care much for your opinions no offense
Thats fine, I don't really want your thoughts on my opinions but the logic behind the vote on you last night. Also if you really believe what you just posted why are both Ss bussing me? If I am scum that doesn't make any sense. I have you, Sharft, and Snarfs out to get me, it doesn't make sense for me to be part of a scum team. Especially if you believe the players you listed are town.
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On June 28 2012 22:14 Shraft wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 21:40 marvellosity wrote:On June 28 2012 21:18 marvellosity wrote:
yeah I don't know right now. I was too hasty yesterday with my answers.
I have to put in a monumental amount of effort to try to refocus my reads and with town's negligible chance of winning I'm struggling to find the motivation. Again I'm spamming like a baws, but obviously I will find the effort at some stage. Everyone seriously needs to help me with my questions and analysis, especially if it involves me. Just kill rastaban. Refocus your reads tomorrow.
This is a fucking awful thing to say.
You cannot possibly be town.
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Seriously what townie suggests to the only confirmed townie, at the point where town is on the verge of already losing, to not bother thinking about his reads and follow someone else who is not confirmed in any way?
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On June 28 2012 23:26 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2012 23:13 Mattchew wrote:On June 28 2012 23:01 rastaban wrote:On June 28 2012 22:54 Mattchew wrote:
Marv
To simplify your process I will give you a step by step of how you should approach everything.
We are in Lynch Scum or Lose. Mis-lynching town or the SK will result in a scum victory
The first and MOST IMPORTANT thing you need to do is come up with a final read on Risk.
The reason for this, is that he is pretty much the only player 100% guaranteed not to be the SK.
Personally I believe him to be town. I don't think there is any logical reason for scum to hold their RB when I believe the SK has been hunting them all game (Zeph then Xsksc were scummy targets that I doubt scum would shoot at and I believe SK shot at them to kill mafia). It would be extremely bold of them to hold their RB and increase the chances of one of them being hit by SK.
If you disagree, I feel that you must vote and lynch Risk because if you are correct, he will flip scum 100%. There is no one else you can say this for.
If you agree with my assessment that Risk is town, then you have 5 players left, 4 of which are not town. I think the first step you must take is trying to remove the remaining townie from the pool of 5. This way (and this is so weird to actually say out loud) you can start to play connect-the-scum, something that normally can demolish town. However in this scenario, it is actually the best way to try and lynch a scum team member over the SK or townie.
Any route you choose I will support, other than voting me for lynch. I also will help you think out your reads if you would like my opinions. Basically Marv, the game comes down to your reads, no one else's, if you read the situation as Risk being town then his reads also matter, but until that point, the game is on your shoulders.
This is a very levelheaded and well thought out post, which coincides on my read that you are not scum. I agree we shouldn't lynch you today. And if you really aren't scum then VE may have saved the game with his shenanigans last night. What do you feel about my post and its possible scum targets. I know we need marv on board to do anything but I would like your input. I mean I dont think you are the SK and I think town is me/marv/risk so I dont really care much for your opinions no offense Thats fine, I don't really want your thoughts on my opinions but the logic behind the vote on you last night. Also if you really believe what you just posted why are both Ss bussing me? If I am scum that doesn't make any sense. I have you, Sharft, and Snarfs out to get me, it doesn't make sense for me to be part of a scum team. Especially if you believe the players you listed are town.
I don't think that if I were scum I would have been in that situation last night, but that should be obvious.
Once again, votes made in the thread are not final until deadline. It is super easy to bus your teammates, and if Marv does not decide to lynch Risk The chances that 2 of the 5 remaining players (3 of which who are scum) are voting you would probably scare him off a lynch of you and onto someone else, and if nothing else, buy them town cred for lynching a scum member.
The only vote that really matters right now is Marv's because all of town (and the SK) needs to follow his lead
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Mattchew or anyone -
given the Zephirdd/xscks SK kills (we can assume this), I look at risk's filter and he was suspicious of both xsckcs and Zephirdd.
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is it reasonable to assume SK would be shooting for mafia night 1? or is there a reasonable chance at that stage they don't care so much?
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fuck I keep forgetting risk shouldn't be SK, god damnit marv
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What was risk's last scum game?
risk or anyone?
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On June 28 2012 23:37 marvellosity wrote:
fuck I keep forgetting risk shouldn't be SK, god damnit marv
 its ok you are working logically atleast
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Mattchew, I am convinced you are anti-town. Just sayin'
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On June 28 2012 23:50 marvellosity wrote:
Mattchew, I am convinced you are anti-town. Just sayin'
So do you think I am scum? even with the way events unfolded last lynch? Even if I was SK, I would be as good as town to you for atleast this cycle, so unless you think of me as scum, you might want to value you my opinion
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prplhz scum, mattchew scum, risk.nuke scum,
shraft SK
prplhz used awful reasoning to try to push through the lynch on the townie
rest of town saw through it
risk was absent
shraft has interest in scum being lynched
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but is it really a good play for scum to hold their RB.
scum could have roleblocked VE?
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The only player at the moment where my read on risk/matt others at the moment doesn't matter is prplhz.
##unvote
##vote: prplhz
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On June 29 2012 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
The only player at the moment where my read on risk/matt others at the moment doesn't matter is prplhz.
##unvote
##vote: prplhz
so you believe in taking the chance that prp is SK or town (and losing right here and now) rather than voting your scum read in Risk (100% town or scum)
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Seriously marvellosity this is the dumbest thing you have done all game and that says a lot.
I'm not going to be around a lot today or tomorrow but I'm going to be around enough to convince you that I'm town. You're the only one I trust in this game (because of your role) and partially risk.nuke. I would defend myself but there is no case on me other than your single argument "he tried to push the lynch of a townie with bad reasoning" but I don't know where I did that. I think it's quite telling that everybody in this thread is on my back right now even though no one ever made a case on me.
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I still want to lynch Shraft off of my case of yesterday because it's the best case in this thread even though I only skimmed the thread today.
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