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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 26 2012 12:51 GMT
#751
Hey Mattchew why am I scum again?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 26 2012 12:53 GMT
#752
I kind of agree with risk.nuke that marvellosity doesn't look scum. I have no idea about the SK thing or what the "SK profile" is. I just think that marvellosity was out of a sticky situation looking kind of alright if he was scum (the day1 tunnelfest) and then he decided to engage in it again out of the blue on day2 when it should be pretty obvious that he would end up looking horrible, makes no sense at all to me. It's really that simple.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 26 2012 13:03 GMT
#758
Yea that's what I said earlier, he's the scummier of you because he's the smarter and he's still engaging in this shit. I just don't really know if he's actually scummy 'cause he seemed kind of emotional in his defense and not like "lol this kid is going to get his ass handed to him now" but then again, I don't even know what that means.

How does risk.nuke know that scum has a roleblocker?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 26 2012 13:26 GMT
#764
Meh, I was in that game and I read it (well some of it 'cause it was a tunnelfest between Toadesstern and VisceraEyes) but there's a huge difference between these games as your quotes also show. There's no wild caps lock or people with guns to their heads (I remember that picture quite well 'cause I was really "what the fuck" about it in LI). It really seems very different here with him talking about his daughter's dance recital where she was dressed as a faerie.

I should really be smarter than to get won over by real life arguments and VisceraEyes shouldn't even talk about them in any game 'cause it's really unfair. Ignoring all his real life stuff he does seem a lot worse off than you and I don't know why people apparently don't see this.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 26 2012 13:30 GMT
#766
Only other lynch I could get on board right now is Mattchew 'cause his posting seems weird, either it's careful or it's trolly and then he apparently didn't read the day post and this is really scummy ('cause scum knows what is in the day post anyway). I think his case on me was full of shit, the "are you scum bussing zentor?" seemed so weird. On the other hand I have a really annoying tendency to think that people who accuse me of being scum are scum and I'm really trying to get that under control.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 26 2012 19:40 GMT
#860
Okay lets lynch Shraft. I'm not in any way confident enough that marvellosity or even VisceraEyes are scum so I don't want to lynch into them. But you guys are going to fucking stop this tunnelfest or I am not going to give a shit tomorrow. We know that you think each other are town, you are only allowed to make very few and condensed posts on each other from now on. Seriously.

You also need to shoot tonight marvellosity but we can talk about that later.



I want to lynch Shraft because of how hesitant he has been doing anything this game, how he seems more occupied with getting his vote down than with actually doing something with the lynch, and partially because of some other things.

His first vote on rastaban came after he made a case on rastaban's first post but he hesitates to vote him. Then next he says that rastaban's case on risk.nuke was scummy but he doesn't vote him. Then a few hours later he votes rastaban just because of these two things, cautious first post and risk.nuke case. This wasn't just a few hours later, this was after three other people had placed their vote on rastaban already.

Next is the current marvellosity wagon, we talked about it for ages but he is hesitant with his vote. He only votes after Probulous makes his big case. Earlier he said that the question-answer-thing was a bit scummy but it wasn't worth lynching marvellosity over, but now he is using that very same argument for voting for marvellosity! I also think it's very telling that he is actually saying that marvellosity is scum for saying that his own behavior is town. Why would any townie ever say that his own play is scummy when it is townie by definition? Townies think that everything they do is the towniest shit ever (even when it isn't which is surprisingly often).

The most telling about how he is acting during these lynches is how little he cares about the lynch itself compared to his vote. After he votes rastaban, he does not mention rastaban again in the thread at all! He doesn't push his lynch even though he's been suspicious of him all game long. It looks like he is happy he just got his vote down and now he doesn't really care who gets lynched. The same thing with the marvellosity lynch: more than 10 hours before deadline he actually says "It's probably too late to sway the lynch". That sounds like he thinks that marvellosity is town but 10 hours before the lynch he doesn't really want to do anything about it. Instead he makes a big post on Snarfs concluding that he is null.

He is also keen to point out how tired and drunk he is all the time, like he's trying to apologize for his play. Scum are a lot more prone to apologize for their game because, unlike townies, they're not actually trying their best and they don't see their game as inherently good! And this is in spite of how no one is actually attacking him, which is my next point. Shraft is one of the very few guys who has not been attacked the whole game, he's actually hardly been mentioned. His filter is small, he has a small town presence, and there's plenty of scummy stuff in there. Why didn't scum jump him already? This is of course supplementary because I'm not going to blame him for other people's actions but I think it's well worth noting.

##Vote: Shraft
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 26 2012 19:41 GMT
#862
You two stop this shit right now jesus christ you're giving me a headache.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 26 2012 19:42 GMT
#863
We're on page 44 and 90% of your 10 page filters is just yelling dumb shit at each other.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 26 2012 19:42 GMT
#865
No, you're going to stop talking to him because it's bad for town lol. Jesus christ.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 26 2012 19:49 GMT
#871
I already told you that I don't want to lynch marvellosity and I also told you why.

I think xsksc is leaning town. Simple stuff like how he is trying to contribute by answering stuff for the guy he was replacing (pretty silly thing to do but a dumb excuse to create content is pretty townie), he's been quite active and vocal (even already been attacked for it).
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 26 2012 19:59 GMT
#879
How the hell is Shraft interested in finding scum? He places his vote, leaves and then he has big null tells.

Yea, marvellosity was out of that dumb shit going on between you and him. Why would a scum make a 180 just so he could go 1for1 with someone? No I didn't read his huge ass filter in depth but I don't recall your case on him impressing me at all and I didn't get a scummy feeling from him.

Yell at me for trying to find an alternative lynch and then 1 minute later suggest yourself that we switch to someone else.

I can vote Mattchew too as I said before but I'd much rather we lynch Shraft. I don't understand his play but I always have a hard time trying to read someone who is attacking me for dumb ass reasons.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 26 2012 20:00 GMT
#880
On June 27 2012 04:55 risk.nuke wrote:
prplhz that's just beeing overly defensive. There is absolutely no need for a townie replacement to jump into a game and justify his formers reads. I find that deal scummy not contributing. And even it was, what else have he done that made you lean town on him or have you judged his alignment from that alone?

Why the hell would someone be overly defensive when they replace into a game? He didn't do anything scummy yet because he didn't do anything yet!
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 26 2012 20:23 GMT
#891
Can't we just god damn lynch Shraft? I have a pretty good feeling about this and I can't get a read for shit on anybody else. Why the fuck do you have 50% of the game between you VisceraEyes and marvellosity?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 26 2012 20:25 GMT
#893
But you didn't ask me a question risk.nuke. You just disagreed with me in a spoiler. I don't really know how I am supposed to respond to that 'cause I already gave you my opinion.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 26 2012 20:31 GMT
#896
I didn't ignore you, I read your post alright.

No I wouldn't (and I know because I just replaced into iGrok's mafia) but I don't think that means that everybody would react like that. He is using a dumb excuse for creating content and that's townie enough to me right now. von Klaust II wasn't even under any pressure, I think you voted him for lurking and that was it.

You'll also see that xsksc isn't actually defending von Klaust II's standpoints, he actually starts out by saying (correctly) that he can't take responsibility for them or explain them. He just answers the questions to create some sort of content and get a kick start into the game and I think that looks pretty townie.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 26 2012 20:38 GMT
#899
LOL what does your trust in me have to do with my case on Shraft? Why don't you respond to that instead of saying that you're not lynching him because you "don't trust me" whatever that even means. You gave me a wishy washy reason why Shraft was town "he tried to find scum" and then I asked you why you even think this and you never responded.

What does "I don't trust you" even mean? Does it mean that you think that I'm scum? You have been voting me or trying to vote me for no reason all game long, what is your problem?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 26 2012 20:39 GMT
#900
@rastaban Can you get a little more concrete than just "I read his filter" into "Town"?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 26 2012 21:43 GMT
#909
I tried to write an in depth response to the cases but that turned out really bad. I really dislike text walls because I think they're mostly useless. The TLDR for Probulous' case is: marvellosity acted scummy in a concerted effort to 'cause chaos on day1, relying solely on the defense "but I always look scummy!". Probulous is also stretching it a lot with his "I imagine town would respond like this: "blahblahblah" but marvellosity said something else", you can't predict anybody like that. I don't really think that scum would do that intentionally. marvellosity has been in the spotlight all game long and scum generally don't like that. Sbrubbles kind of quite the game in Pick Your Poison because he couldn't handle the pressure of being scum. This doesn't apply in the same degree to everybody but mostly, scum will not get into the spotlight unless they feel like they have to. I never bought the "he threw the question back" 'cause that just looked kind of cheeky and aggravating which generally isn't scummy. I agree that it's bad that he didn't want to respond to the question, if not then just to get it the fuck out of the game so that you can focus on something else. Seems weirdly stubborn.

I kind of responded to part of your case already, I don't think scum would make the day2 case that marvellosity made on you 'cause they would look really bad. I think it was pretty obvious that marvellosity would get lynched over you in a 1on1 situation because of all the heat that was on him on day1. I don't think anything else in there has any indication on his alignment.

Your vigilante point is really good VisceraEyes and it's done more to convince me than these two cases. I also don't like how marvellosity uses meta in his own defense 'cause this looks overly self conscious. I have just been reluctant to accept that 'cause I wanted to lynch Kurumi on the same thing in Pick Your Poison and he turned out to be town. I just really think that Shraft is scum and I have no idea what you guys are on about. I got Sbrubbles on day1 in Pick Your Poison with a similar analysis (didn't push it 'cause I wasn't confident enough in it 'cause it was a new style).
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 26 2012 21:47 GMT
#910
Your turn VisceraEyes.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 26 2012 22:31 GMT
#916
29.5 hours?
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