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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On July 01 2012 06:27 Vivax wrote: Guys, look at the voting thread. Casualman just voted for himself. That's his phase 2. He can't have done that. That would be retarded. | ||
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BroodKingEXE
United States829 Posts
On July 01 2012 05:13 drwiggl3s wrote: Ok since some people asked, here's what I'm thinking. I agree that BKEXE's initial posts were a tad scummy. But what gave it away to me was that after casualman voted for him, both Mattchew and BKEXE immediately returned the favour and voted for casualman to be lynched. Both without any explanation other than saying "Wtf is this". And then later, both went MIA for quite a while instead of explaining their votes or trying to defend BKEXE. You may ask why would casualman throw his vote at BKEXE so early. It could be he is either just noob, or it could be he read BKEXE as scum (like many people are now) but just before a lot of people had the chance to. As for other players: I find many people are soft defending BKEXE and in their posts trying to put suspicion onto others (with little reason). I see these as scummy moves. If you are going to place your vote on me you need more evidence than that. Firstly you arent explaining why the Mattchew is scummy and just buddy us even though others have suspicions as well. Second how much further can I explain the vot for casual? Insaneness is a good way for scum to hide, as it prevents us from getting a good read; a townie helps the town with sane posting. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5249 Posts
On July 01 2012 04:24 s0Lstice wrote: ET what do you think of Katina? It's Katina, so I have no clue. If her reads start flipping town, then I'll be more suspicious. On July 01 2012 04:47 Acrofales wrote: @ET: s0lstice's post satisfies me with regards to his earlier promise to give his reads during the day. You agree? No. I expect a lot from a townie s0Lstice. Unfair? A bit, but it's no less than I'd expect from slOosh, Cephiro, gonzaw. On July 01 2012 05:57 casualman wrote: phase 2 Hey Adam, remember my first game? When sephirothag or whoever crucified himself for no reason? This is the MrZentor variety of it. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5249 Posts
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Vivax
22080 Posts
On July 01 2012 06:40 EchelonTee wrote: Hey Adam, remember my first game? When sephirothag or whoever crucified himself for no reason? This is the MrZentor variety of it. You speak in riddles for me, who is Adam?And how is that event similar to this one? Also, could you explain me fully what the kenpachi rule is? I didn't play these games where you learned what you learned. | ||
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
On July 01 2012 06:27 Vivax wrote: Guys, look at the voting thread. Casualman just voted for himself. That's his phase 2. I know, I quoted that already and asked him, but he just does not answer... For now I will just probably ignore him | ||
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Katina
United States454 Posts
Casualman has caught my attenion with his phase 2 talk as he called his self vote. I'm curious to see more from him and find out what he has to say at a later. I still find BKE suspicious for the reasons that have been stated. He seems more interested in defending his lack of noobiness then helping the town. | ||
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BroodKingEXE
United States829 Posts
On July 01 2012 07:00 Katina wrote: Okay, I just finished reading through the thread. Casualman has caught my attenion with his phase 2 talk as he called his self vote. I'm curious to see more from him and find out what he has to say at a later. I still find BKE suspicious for the reasons that have been stated. He seems more interested in defending his lack of noobiness then helping the town. Do you know why I have been defending my experience? Because if solstice and I have played an equal amount of games I have not created a case on a newb. Isn't that the bulk of the accusation against me? | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On July 01 2012 07:27 BroodKingEXE wrote: Do you know why I have been defending my experience? Because if solstice and I have played an equal amount of games I have not created a case on a newb. Isn't that the bulk of the accusation against me? No. It isn't. Try again. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On July 01 2012 05:13 Vivax wrote: Why exactly do you prefer a BM lynch over a BKE lynch? Also, I'm still waiting for VE's response to my questions, as any townie should, they are short and should be easy to answer if he was townie. Not sure if he's evading them or just afk. But he already skipped them once. Afk ...phoneposting. I answer you questions. Oh yes. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18100 Posts
On July 01 2012 05:24 s0Lstice wrote: Acrofales- No I don't expect you to read past games for 29 people. Wha? Seems to me that this is exactly the situation you'd use meta for. If you don't know the player, the more information you can get, the better off you are. I use meta differently (only talking about people whose playstyle I am unfamiliar with here): if I find something typical that could be a scum tell, but is townie for some people, I try to look at older games and figure out playstyle. The problem is that it takes a lot of effort and time to read other people's finished games and get a good read. What is generally easier to use meta for and far less prone to error is to meta people who you DO know. You have expectations from their town and scum play. This game has a few people I have experience playing with. For instance, I consider myself a decent judge of Mattchew if he ever starts playing the game (based on 3 or 4 games now that we've played together). You think Vivax is scummy here: There have been a handful of people you have been suspicious of. Vivax' meta is particularly easy to look up because he is new. You can get a good idea of how he plays with not a lot of time spent. Is meta just not your thing? It seems weird to me that you would so willingly pass up an opportunity to add clarity to your read. It feels like you are being aggressive just for the sake of looking aggressive. As I clarified above. Additionally, I actually did look up Vivax's games this afternoon, and saw that he had played 3 newbie games, of which1 was scum and 2 town (third I didn't look at). However, a quick glance was not enough to tell me much about his playstyle either way. I saw he got lynched early on as town in both his scum games, which tells me he is probably not very good at looking townie at least. Your defense of him seems to be indicating that I missed something in that glance. What makes Vivax's play townie? | ||
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BroodKingEXE
United States829 Posts
Im not talking about your case, the majority of the town has been criticizing me for accusing newbies after the policy. Solstices OP in my opinion could have been a scum one. I looked at it from a town intent POV and a more direct post would have made sense. There's nothing wrong with pointing that out. | ||
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BroodKingEXE
United States829 Posts
Votecount: VisceraEyes: mKmKmK(2): NoSmurfHere, rastaban BroodKEXE(4): Katina, Bill Murray(1): Acrofales Acrofales(1): Bill Murray casualman(3): Mattchew, BroodKingEXE, casualman | ||
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Twelve
United States90 Posts
On July 01 2012 08:12 BroodKingEXE wrote: I think a vote count would be appropriate: Votecount: VisceraEyes: mKmKmK(2): NoSmurfHere, rastaban BroodKEXE(4): Katina, Bill Murray(1): Acrofales Acrofales(1): Bill Murray casualman(3): Mattchew, BroodKingEXE, casualman This reads as scum to me. Reorganizing public information and posting it as a friendly town helping message, even though in reality it offers very little information. I hear "Hey guys, scum would never post a vote count where they are losing! Clearly BKE just has the town's best interests at heart!" On a side note though, what reasons would there be for casualman to vote for himself if he were town? | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
if BKX flips scum, will you all listen to me on acrofales? It's a JEEP tell for a FoS with a vote on someone else Acrofales did that, lets test BKX ##Unvote ##Vote: BKX | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On July 01 2012 08:24 Twelve wrote: This reads as scum to me. Reorganizing public information and posting it as a friendly town helping message, even though in reality it offers very little information. I hear "Hey guys, scum would never post a vote count where they are losing! Clearly BKE just has the town's best interests at heart!" On a side note though, what reasons would there be for casualman to vote for himself if he were town? I agree too, it's so easy to get that votecount, and that being a mod's job and all, he's probably scum doing that I don't know if I'm suffering from hindsight bias on that - look at it making me vote him right away, too, though | ||
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BroodKingEXE
United States829 Posts
On July 01 2012 08:25 Bill Murray wrote: Acrofales FoS on BKX is fishy as fuck if BKX flips scum, will you all listen to me on acrofales? It's a JEEP tell for a FoS with a vote on someone else Acrofales did that, lets test BKX ##Unvote ##Vote: BKX Youre voting for me because Acro is trying to distance himself from me right? Then vote for Acro if youre more sure on him! | ||
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NoSmurfHere
New Zealand613 Posts
Do note that mKmKmK has taken his time in responding to the votes he's received. If he were town at the very least he'd call my vote stupid. However he's chosen to lurk the suspicion away which is far more of a scumtell than towntell. In addition notice how he hasn't built up many votes whereas some random noob is racking up votes like a stripper with DDs racks up $2 bills on fight night. There's some major derailing going on and whoever is responsible is scum. | ||
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
On July 01 2012 08:55 NoSmurfHere wrote: Bill Murray is an idiot, some vig should shoot him tonight. Not worth a lynch as that would probably wreck the thread and waste discussion space. Do note that mKmKmK has taken his time in responding to the votes he's received. If he were town at the very least he'd call my vote stupid. However he's chosen to lurk the suspicion away which is far more of a scumtell than towntell. In addition notice how he hasn't built up many votes whereas some random noob is racking up votes like a stripper with DDs racks up $2 bills on fight night. There's some major derailing going on and whoever is responsible is scum. You're insinuating that mK is scummy because people aren't voting for him? That's rather ridiculous. Your first 4 posts don't do anything at all other than give a completely unsubstantiated vote. Your latest post says BM should be shot because he's an idiot, not because he's scum. You then spew ridiculous comments on mK based on him lurking while there are others who have lurked more. You then talk about derailing in a very vague manner without bothering to direct it anyone. Your vote is weird and has poor support and your comment about BM is completely at odds with town goals if you don't believe he's scum. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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