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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 02 2012 19:12 GMT
#828
On July 03 2012 04:09 Mattchew wrote:
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On July 03 2012 04:08 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Kill:

Twelve
rastaban
Ghost
Katina
BM
VE

Assuming mK is town. If he flips scum then lynch them all anyway

I don't like Katina and VE on this list can you explain why they are there.. and what about Drwig?



Don't like it? W/e, not my problem (at least for now)

Dr looks too stupid to be scum but I could be wrong there. I don't think he'd say specifically to get you lynched if he was scum.
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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 02 2012 19:21 GMT
#832
On July 03 2012 04:15 Mattchew wrote:
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On July 03 2012 04:12 NoSmurfHere wrote:
On July 03 2012 04:09 Mattchew wrote:
On July 03 2012 04:08 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Kill:

Twelve
rastaban
Ghost
Katina
BM
VE

Assuming mK is town. If he flips scum then lynch them all anyway

I don't like Katina and VE on this list can you explain why they are there.. and what about Drwig?



Don't like it? W/e, not my problem (at least for now)

Dr looks too stupid to be scum but I could be wrong there. I don't think he'd say specifically to get you lynched if he was scum.

I think Katina and VE are town, why do you think they are scum?


No real point in wasting my time during the night. I don't even know if I'll live to tomorrow.

I like s0lstice though. He seems intelligent.
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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 02 2012 20:01 GMT
#846
On July 03 2012 04:44 Vivax wrote:
NoSmurf, that post of yours sucked. You also jumped on the bandwagon against foxtrot pretty late.

Enough for me to unvote marv and vote for you next day. I think you should post more.


Speak for yourself, most of your posts are unintelligible trash
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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 02 2012 20:35 GMT
#859
Guess not!

Better that they're dead now though, wastes less time later. I think my list from before is still a good bet.
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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 02 2012 21:47 GMT
#867
On July 03 2012 06:43 Twelve wrote:
I'm hesitant to post this,but I have a feeling I may be killed tonight, and a REALLY strong feeling NoSmurfHere WILL NOT be Mafia killed tonight. I made a list of people who jumped on the mKmKmK lynch as I felt it was just an attempt of mafia to get a townie lurker lynched. As I went through the list of names using their filters, I came to some tentative conclusions.


My current read is that if there is a Ringleader in this game (godfather), it is NoSmurfHere.

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NoSmurfHere New Zealand. July 01 2012 10:25
Also your belief in "proof" probably suggests you shouldn't be playing mafia, given that most accurate reads are not based on anything anywhere close to proof.


I feel he may be breadcrumbing for a detective role check. It was just a note next to his name when I

Look at the interaction between NoSmurfHere and rastaban. After NoSmurfHere starts the bandwagon against mKmKmK(a lurker lynch I really didn't agree with), he seems very interested in a role claim from NoSmurfHere, perhaps trying to get a detective to waste a night and make a really dangerous "confirmed towny".


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On July 01 2012 00:53 rastaban wrote:
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On July 01 2012 00:45 EchelonTee wrote:
On June 30 2012 14:16 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Also, please stop discussing role PMs. The OP clearly states:
All flavour will appear exactly as it is here.
[b][blue]This is true for all roles.

I don't want to discuss NoSmurfHere's wording of the claim; I'm focusing on the fact that he generically claimed Vanilla Townie, and mKmKmK reacting strangely at it ("vague post is vague") is an eye catcher.

Yeah let's not anger the host.

The other option is he is a blue acting strangely to it, but I am sure Mafia already thought of this if he isn't on their team so he is outed regardless of alignment. I think this is the easy and probably accurate lynch for today, so we should be thinking about pushing for a role claim from him.



I may be reaching, but again, I think I may wake up dead and wanted to get my thoughts out there.
[/b][/blue]

rough translation of this post:

I'm scum and I know NoSmurfHere is town, therefore the only way I can make him look bad is by calling him the godfather.

Nice one.
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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 02 2012 21:51 GMT
#872
On July 03 2012 06:49 Twelve wrote:
How do i know NoSmurfHere is town? I'm just posting my thoughts, what have you done for town so far?


if you actually thought I was mafia you'd call me mafia. Instead you call me the godfather (probably because you know my vanilla town claim is legit)

rastaban was scummy enough in his post that suggested I could be blue. You're scummier in that you're calling me godfather just to call me scum. The reason people do that is if they themselves are scum and need an excuse to call an established player mafia.
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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 02 2012 22:04 GMT
#877
On July 03 2012 06:52 marvellosity wrote:
NoSmurfHere - here's a clue. You're not established.


even if I'm not established he'd just call me scum.

To call me godfather is stretching unnecessarily. It could only mean he already knows my alignment.
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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 02 2012 22:08 GMT
#879
so you're saying he's an idiot?

cool.
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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 03 2012 00:11 GMT
#904
that's me btw.

I'm WBG
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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 03 2012 00:12 GMT
#905
NOW do things make sense?
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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 03 2012 00:16 GMT
#909
hahahahaha.

anyway I was gonna post the reason I have that read on Katina (it's a meta read) and then I realized if I posted a meta read on katina it'd be kinda pointless unless you all knew who I was.

I posted under my actual account once to see if anybody would notice but no one did. Then I accidentally posted with this acct in the movie thread (lol) and someone not in this game noticed.

but anyway Katina's been jumping on wagons and not really been explaining her reads very thoroughly this game. This is very similar to what I saw in MTG (as opposed to her RB play in Emergency) so I'm inclined to believe she's scum.

As for VE the read isn't strong because I always find it hard to read VE but I'm getting the same vibe I got from him in LI. He's not directly pushing any of his reads and he's for the most part flowing with town sentiment. I kinda saw that in Emergency too but that's all kinda nebulous.

Then in terms of the lurkers there's a bunch of them who look terrible. I'm not greatly confident in any of them either (simply because there's so damn many) but honestly our best bet is to just start killing the scummiest of them first.
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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 03 2012 00:17 GMT
#913
err not emergency but WoF. the game where he was mafia with ace and forumite
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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 03 2012 00:54 GMT
#928
I don't find ET scummy right now. No reason to suspect him. If he is scum then we'll just have to wait to see if he continues to be reasonable and continues to push the lynches he says he's going to push. We make his life difficult. Ultimately if he's not shot by scum after a few days of being reasonable (while other townies have been) then he's probably scum.

I happen to agree with VE's reads other than me, of course, so it's possible he's not scum after all. (or he could be bussing hard, who knows)

Tomorrow we should most definitely look into killing katina or BM. Vigis should consider shooting BM as a priority, it'll save us a lot of time.
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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 03 2012 01:22 GMT
#949
On July 03 2012 10:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
WHO GAVE MARV AUTHORIZATION TO FIRE N1 ANYWAY?!? HUH?!

BUGS IT WAS YOU WASN'T IT?!


I told the vigis to shoot BM. DERP
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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 03 2012 01:24 GMT
#953
##vote Katina

Die biatch!

Reasons were outlined earlier and they haven't yet changed.
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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 03 2012 01:28 GMT
#955
btw on this list:

Kill:

Twelve
rastaban
Ghost

Katina
BM
VE

So we need at least 2 more names...hmmm
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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 03 2012 03:11 GMT
#976
yo casual do you have any intention of making yourself readable this game?

I'm going to continue to ignore you if you keep up this current trend. Probably call a vig shot on you unless you begin actively contributing and making sense.

Same to you BKE: you need to read the thread (this goes to anyone who missed the vig claims, for example: ET)

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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 03 2012 03:19 GMT
#981
On July 02 2012 07:30 Katina wrote:
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On July 02 2012 06:31 EchelonTee wrote:
Mattchew, adam, ve, katina; is the mK lynch good to you? Something feels a bit fishy; I need reassurance or a cold slap in the face. We narrowly have time for a mass switch; only other option I see as feasible and good is a BM lynch.


I don't like the mkmk lynch. I think that it happened all too easily. I don't think he's scummy enough to feel comfortable to lynch D1. There are other good candidates we should be focusing on like BKE or casualman. The general rule with BM is if he is causing chaos in the thread than he's town. So far he swearing and yelling at people and calling people out on their crap. There's more reason to think BM is town than Mafia. It reminds me of when people kept killing VE because he's VE.

I would sooner lynch BKE or casualman than BM.


On July 02 2012 01:57 grush57 wrote:
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On July 02 2012 01:49 layabout wrote:
Current Votes:
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(Top: most recent Bottom: least recent)

VisceraEyes ##Vote: BillMurray
austinmcc ##Vote mKmKmK
Vivax ##Vote mKmKmK
Vivax ##Vote Mandalor
Kurumi ##vote mKmKmK
EchelonTee ##vote mKmKmK
Hyaach ##vote mKmKmK
s0Lstice ##Vote: Katina
Adam4167 ##Vote: Mandalor
Mandalor ##vote: BroodKingEXE
MajuGarzett ##Vote: NoSmurfHere
Twelve ##vote: BroodKingEXE
Bill Murray ##vote: BroodKingeXxe
casualman ##Vote: casualman
drwiggl3s ##Vote: BroodKingEXE
ShiaoPi ##vote: BroodKingEXE
rastaban ##vote mKmKmK
BroodKingEXE ##Vote: casualman
VisceraEyes ##Vote: BroodKingEXE
Bill Murray ##Vote Acrofales
Acrofales ##vote BillMurray
Mattchew ##vote casualman
casualman ##Vote BroodKingEXE
Bill Murray ##Vote: VE
Katina ##Vote BroodKingEXE
NoSmurfHere ##vote mKmKmK
VisceraEyes ##Vote: VisceraEyes


votecount:
mKmKmK (7)
austinmcc
Vivax
Kurumi
EchelonTee
Hyaach
NoSmurfHere
rastaban

BroodkingEXE (6)
Katina
ShiaoPi
drwiggl3s
Bill Murray
Twelve
mandalor

Casualman (3)
Casualman
BrodkingEXE
Mattchew

BillMurray (2)
VisceraEyes
Acrofales

Mandalor (1)
Adam4167

NoSmurfHere (1)
MajuGarzett

Katina (1)
s0Lstice


As a member of our great (circus) town it is very important that you put effort and time into your vote. It increases your chance of winning. It is expected of town. It is not very difficult for town. It is benfiacial for town. It is risky for mafia. The more opinions mafia give and the more stances mafia have to take, the more likely they are to give themselves away. Avoiding putting in time and effort in voting is beneficial to mafia.

With that in mind, why on earth are VisceraEyes and Acrofales throwing away their votes. Both players are known for domineering and leading threads for better or worse and it is surprising that they are happy to cast votes that will be of little consequence.

These players:
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Katina
NoSmurfHere
Mattchew
Acrofales

Voted very early on and have not changed their votws. I am concerned that so many players are content to leave their votes like this when you consider the huge difference in the information available when they voted to the information available now.

Casualman voted for himself. Either he is a townie that is playing to screw with us or he is mafia plaing to screw with us.
We should kill Casualman. If we allow players to do that then we will be dealing with nonsense all game and once all of the active players are killed off our lurking brethren will see a bunch of rubbish get confused and lose. I still think we should kill Kurumi but he is at least half playing the game.

##Vote Casualman

I have to agree. Atleast BM isn't going full retard like casualman. Casualman doesn't want to play and is just being plain stupid. Plus, he is by far playing the most scummiest so far.


Scummy posts that defend BM

Plenty of players said "I just don't want to read or consider BM" which is completely understandable from a town perspective. Softly calling him town is pretty strange, though. It makes sense from a mafia perspective, since they know he'd return town to checks. Sucks for them that a vig had the sense to shoot him in the face.

One thing I am very interested in now:

Acrofales, now that BM is dead who would you like to kill today? Who qualifies as scum?
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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 03 2012 09:29 GMT
#1002
given VE's current posting trend I think it's more likely he's town than when I had the read before.

Katina looks really bad in particular though, and grush/Vivax don't look good either.

Ignoring connections ET has so far been rather quiet today, and plenty of players (such as Maju and Adam) need to actually do something useful. Otherwise they should die at some point too.

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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 03 2012 19:05 GMT
#1064
The easiest thing for any scum to do is to defend a townie that is likely to die. It sounds dumb but even though it can be construed as pro-town it's actually a way of making your life as scum last longer. Vivax doing that is not really alignment indicative IMO.

I need to reread again because I feel uncomfortable with my reads. I think Katina is scum but she's not going to be around today (and wouldn't be even if she were town) and I'm not sold on Vivax. I'm pretty sure there's at least one scum among the more active players. Perhaps ET.
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