Hmm I just realized that drazerk didn't check his pm until after the "objection" was made. So when he made his all three are town passage he didn't know his own alignment. God that would be sick if he did roll scum.

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 18 2012 23:11 GMT

#817

MajuGarzett come back!

I still need your opinion on KB and nisani, as well as anyone besides FourFace that you think is scum.

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 18 2012 23:12 GMT

#818

The only way I can justify a KB shot is that I think his role PM might be fairly revealing. I'm not convinced at all that he's scum but he could be an interesting third party.

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 18 2012 23:23 GMT

#821

All the people I want to shoot aren't online :-(

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 18 2012 23:30 GMT

#827

Is there anyone else you're suspicious of? Anyone you think is town?

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 18 2012 23:31 GMT

#828

above directed at majugarzett

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 18 2012 23:36 GMT

#829

I'm shooting in ~20 min if people are waiting. Dunno if hosts will be online though so might have to wait a while to find out.

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 18 2012 23:39 GMT

#830

Right now it's between MajuGarzett and KB. KB to see his PM, MajuGarzett because it might be a little more informative gameplay-wise. And he might have an interesting role too.

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 18 2012 23:47 GMT

#834

Strongandbig which would like me to shoot: KB or MajuGarzett?

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 18 2012 23:51 GMT

#838

On June 19 2012 08:47 talismania wrote:
Strongandbig which would like me to shoot: KB or MajuGarzett?

I ask questions and they all run away :-(

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 18 2012 23:59 GMT

#841

Strongandbig you out there? Waiting to hear from you before I act.

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 19 2012 00:07 GMT

#843

Very good!

I'm about to leave lab and head home myself.

Ok.

##shoot: MajuGarzett

If for some reason I die instead of him, it's because he's the king. Dunno if that information is bad to post or not let's hope not and let's hope it doesn't turn out that way.

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 19 2012 00:10 GMT

#846

There was not a lot to tip the scales in his favor. He's involved in an interesting case triangle: him on FourFace, FourFace on ET, and ET on him that I kind of want to resolve. Also I feel KB is still a great lynch candidate. And I think that there's hopefully something to be learned from both of their roles assuming those get revealed to us. I better not have shot the medic.

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 19 2012 00:15 GMT

#854

:-)

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 19 2012 00:19 GMT

#857

Ok so.

MajuGarzett wanted FourFace dead. FourFace is not his partner.
HiroPro wanted MajuGarzett dead. HiroPro is not his partner.
Acrofales I think also wanted MajuGarzett dead. Acrofales is not his partner.
ET wanted MajuGarzett dead. ET is not his partner.
Strongandbig, when given a last-minute choice between MajuGarzett and KB, chose Maju. Strongandbig probably not his partner.

Anything else I miss?

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 19 2012 02:02 GMT

#871

this also fits with my theory that there might be two scum teams of two. Alternatively it could be one scum team of two, and a bunch of one-shot assassins. Or something else entirely.

Gonna put my vote on kharadbanar for now.

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 19 2012 05:51 GMT

#886

Nisani has all but claimed third party. He has claimed having the ability to "extra win and extra lose" which is somewhat supported by acrofales also saying that he too has an "extra lose" clause in his wincon. This must be kept in mind.

That said he has never looked good in this game. Though this post from MajuGarzett made about nisani should also be taken into consideration (he posted this before I posted that I was definitely going to shoot him or KB).

On June 19 2012 08:28 MajuGarzett wrote:

Show nested quote +

KB is scummy. I know I said earlier that I didn't suspect him but that was in reference solely to the act of making an alliance with the house. The stuff he's done after that is bad.

Nisani is okay but I disliked how little info there was in his vote for xsksc. He didn't really point out anything, just make generalizations and tell people to go look at the filter themselves.

I'm not sure if this makes Nisani look better or worse.

____________________-

On deconduo - deconduo must be town if he's smart. If he's dumb, he could still be scum. Remember that he initially wanted me to type in

Deconduo is town
I am town
I am a dayvig

in order to confirm us both. If I had done as he asked, and he wasn't town, he would have been royally and stupidly fucked. Because I know I'm town, and I know I'm a dayvig, and if the hosts say there's a lie there, then I'm going to shoot deconduo. I have to assume that he would think that much through if he were scum, right? On an aside, lie detector seems like a random role to give to scum anyway.

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 19 2012 06:20 GMT

#889

On June 19 2012 08:28 MajuGarzett wrote:

Show nested quote +

KB is scummy. I know I said earlier that I didn't suspect him but that was in reference solely to the act of making an alliance with the house. The stuff he's done after that is bad.

Nisani is okay but I disliked how little info there was in his vote for xsksc. He didn't really point out anything, just make generalizations and tell people to go look at the filter themselves.

I'm reposting this because I just realized something potentially interesting.

When asked about Nisani, what did MajuGarzett talk about?

...The alliance with House Chezinu? No.
...The claim of "extra win and extra lose" conditions? No.

He talked about... the case on xsksc

Why would this be the one thing to come to his mind?

Maybe I'm crazy, but my hunch is that it's because xsksc is his partner.

Read through xsksc's filter. That shit is ripe. Classic scum posts like "Anyway I'm going away now blahblahblah if anyone has questions" (I hate it when townies do this btw). Tentativeness. The exact same reaction to House Chezinu that MajuGarzett has "I'm wary of it until we learn more about the benefits blahblahblah". Too lazy/tired at the moment to pull a whole case together with quotes and all, but do yourself a favor and read through his filter.

##vote xsksc

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 19 2012 06:32 GMT

#890

ps you guys still on KB should consider getting off of him. DropBear is right - KB put like the fourth vote on MajuGarzett. Our focus now should be trying to use the MG flip to inform the lynch so focus your votes on who you think his partner is.

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 19 2012 07:38 GMT

#895

I will say this again:

it's really unlikely nisani is maju's partner.

Nisani claimed "a crazy role" with "extra win and extra lose" wincons. The existence of "extra lose" wincons was backed up by acrofales. Maju did not have any of these wincons. Therefore I find it an incredibly fortunate lie by nisani to have made that up if he is indeed maju's partner. More likely, nisani is third party or something.