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talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 19:56 GMT
#590
On June 19 2012 04:54 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 04:09 talismania wrote:
People who should I shoot:

Drazerk
strongandbig
Nisani201
deconduo
FourFace

?

Out of those? Drazerk or Nisani. Why aren't DropBear or Maju on your list?

I will catch up to the rest of the thread a bit now.


DropBear is an outside possibility. Maju is a decent lynch candidate.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 20:03 GMT
#594
On June 19 2012 04:59 Drazerk wrote:
Tali is your shot a 1 time thing?

Just interested


Yes, I already claimed that.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 20:05 GMT
#597
On June 19 2012 05:04 Drazerk wrote:
(Had it been multi shot I would of had you shoot me btw)


Go on...
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 20:07 GMT
#600
That's not all the way there.

If I had multishot, who would you have me shoot along with you?

As I see it, even I don't shoot you we can still lynch you and fulfill that "I need to be killed before lylo" condition.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 20:09 GMT
#603
On June 19 2012 05:08 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 05:07 KharadBanar wrote:
On June 19 2012 05:05 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2012 05:05 talismania wrote:
On June 19 2012 05:04 Drazerk wrote:
(Had it been multi shot I would of had you shoot me btw)


Go on...


You clearly have never seen me play town... I need to be killed before lylo if town want to win (unless I get mod confirmed or some shit like that)

This doesn't make sense. If town lynch scum instead of you, it doesn't even come to LYLO so it's irrelevant.


I don't want to be lynched I want to be shot there is a difference


And the difference to you is... ?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 20:12 GMT
#606
On June 19 2012 05:10 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 05:09 talismania wrote:
On June 19 2012 05:08 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2012 05:07 KharadBanar wrote:
On June 19 2012 05:05 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2012 05:05 talismania wrote:
On June 19 2012 05:04 Drazerk wrote:
(Had it been multi shot I would of had you shoot me btw)


Go on...


You clearly have never seen me play town... I need to be killed before lylo if town want to win (unless I get mod confirmed or some shit like that)

This doesn't make sense. If town lynch scum instead of you, it doesn't even come to LYLO so it's irrelevant.


I don't want to be lynched I want to be shot there is a difference


And the difference to you is... ?


Lynch creates discussion forces people to take sides etc etc

Shots are done for the luls


So you would rather die for the lulz than be lynched and have discussion generated about it?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 20:16 GMT
#610
On June 19 2012 05:10 Nisani201 wrote:
Alright so I've just read through the thread and I have no idea why people are saying that my play is strange or weird or whatever. I don't know why people are getting away with soft-calling me scum (I'm looking at you, talis) and no one is really posting reasoning

There is Hyaach's analysis on me, which is pretty bad.

Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 16:23 Hyaach wrote:
Nisani201.

People find it wierd to ally so fast with a house without any information from it?

On June 17 2012 05:00 Nisani201 wrote:
On June 17 2012 04:47 talismania wrote:
KharadBanar and Nisani206

Why did you ally with HiroPro?

Because I prefer to make friends, not enemies.


Only people that wants friends are scum/third parties. Towns can credit themselves cred by scum hunting. Scum/third parties are lazy and lack this advantage.

Alright, I agree that I didn't explain myself very well in that post and it looks pretty bad, but I'll try to explain it now.

My main understanding of the "house chezinu" mainly came from Merc Mini 2 where I played with Chezinu, and he was acting very similar to Hiro's play in this game. In that game Chezinu was a bulletproof SK and I figured that it was very likely Hiro had a lot of power. I didn't want to get stuck in some stupid feud with a third party when I could have been scumhunting. Furthermore, I didn't really see any downside to allying with the House... and no one has pointed one out; people have been saying that this kind of affiliation with it is scummy but I don't really see why that is.
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 16:23 Hyaach wrote:
On June 17 2012 07:22 Nisani201 wrote:
I highly doubt that there are any vanilla roles such as "serial killer" in this game.


Why discredit the existence of a 3rd party be it a group or 1 single individual?

This is a crazy game and it has crazy roles... I know that I have a crazy role, not sure about others but my experience with crazy games suggests that most people are going to have crazy roles as well.

Why the hell did you include this in your analysis? Did you run out of posts that you thought were actually scummy? This entire case is forced, and this part of it proves it to me.

Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 16:23 Hyaach wrote:
On June 18 2012 06:43 Nisani201 wrote:
Some other points to make:

If you are the "king" then you should claim that you are, as well as the powers you have.

I also don't like the case on Maju



On June 18 2012 07:19 Nisani201 wrote:
I think the source of a lot of confusion surrounding the monarch stuff is because talis/acro aren't making good distinctions between what is fact (established in the role pm) and what is speculation. Could you two be more specific?



Why are you so interested in the King and the specific set up?
Do they have anything to do with your win-con?

Once again more blatant and pointless speculation.

A lot of people are talking about the king. Because 2 people (and probably more) already have information on it it seems like it's a very important mechanic in this game. Information is especially important in a game like this where we have so little information about the setup and anything can happen.

Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 16:23 Hyaach wrote:
On June 17 2012 10:09 Nisani201 wrote:
What information is revealed upon death?


With 0 KP last night and KB who is buddy-buddying you is in the spotlight.
Are you afraid his death will reveal existence of your 3rd party set up?

What the hell is this? I ask a question to the host and now you're spinning it and making up bullshit. There are a million reasons why I could have asked this question, and you pull one out of the hat to match the opinion of Hiro and a few others that I am 3P.


So what's your crazy role?

What is your win condition?

My win condition is elimination of all anti-town forces, but my role isn't that crazy.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 20:21 GMT
#618
On June 19 2012 05:18 Nisani201 wrote:
Why do you want me to claim?

I have a crazy role, not alignment. I do have an opportunity for an "extra win" and an "extra loss," but you guys don't have to worry about those because they are pro-town objectives.


It's ok I guess I don't expect you to claim. But what's this extra win extra loss stuff? I don't see how you can extra lose. Can you give us a hint as to your various wincons?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 20:32 GMT
#636
Nisani, what do you know about the king and monarchist activist?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 20:38 GMT
#638
What other factions do you know about?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 20:44 GMT
#647
On June 19 2012 05:39 Nisani201 wrote:
Why do you keep asking me these questions?


Because I want to know? And I have a gun?

Do you know of any other factions? If your wincon is town-aligned, then maybe us in town can help you out.

Did your pm contain any info on the king and MA at all?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 20:44 GMT
#649
On June 19 2012 05:43 EchelonTee wrote:
Tali, you should shoot soon if you have an informed decision. Don't make it last minute; we can use the flip to help figure out the lynch.


Relax, dude. I will shoot sometime in the next six hours or so I imagine.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 20:56 GMT
#662
Can I have people's reads/opinions/impressions of strongandbig?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 21:01 GMT
#666
So... does anyone else think deconduo was scarily accurate when he described this as an assassins + kingmaker setup?

Right now reading between the lines it sounds like there's a bunch of people who can win with town (or with scum?) but get an extra bonus if they're the one to night kill the MA or King or something like that. Maybe extra lose if they accidentally kill the other or some other role.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 21:08 GMT
#669
Yeah I'm thinking a bunch of mixed alignment assassins that basically are one-shot night vigis. They would have to have a crazy penalty against missing though or else all of them shooting would end the game really soon. eh, dunno.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 21:11 GMT
#671
Pretty sure he's just voting for me to shoot dropbear.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 21:11 GMT
#672
Nisani what do you make of strongandbig?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 21:16 GMT
#678
On June 19 2012 06:13 FourFace wrote:
talismania do you still want to shoot me, if so why?


Kind of, kind of not. At the moment I'm leaning town on you. Do you have any extra win / extra lose wincons?
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 21:18 GMT
#681
On June 19 2012 06:13 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 05:58 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2012 05:56 talismania wrote:
Can I have people's reads/opinions/impressions of strongandbig?


I think he has a seperate win con to murder someone

I think this is the same win con that 201 / Acro has

I can ONLY win with town. I can lose with town... and additionally I can lose if something bad happens. No clue what Nisani's extra wincon is.


You're the monarchist activist and you can lose if the king dies? Just a guess. I kinda doubt it because you said you were going to claim D2.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 18 2012 21:49 GMT
#693
On June 19 2012 06:27 FourFace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:16 talismania wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:13 FourFace wrote:
talismania do you still want to shoot me, if so why?


Kind of, kind of not. At the moment I'm leaning town on you. Do you have any extra win / extra lose wincons?


Why, are you probing for the MA?


No I was just curious as to who has these extra win and extra lose stuff.

What are your impressions of Drazerk, strongandbig, and nisani201?
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