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I'm fine with xsksc first although I'm not totally convinced by it. Both have evidence for and against them. but w/e. | ||
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On June 24 2012 19:02 Hyaach wrote: I RBed ghost last night I'm not scum. A scum xsksc wouldn't kill ghost either. Scum win-con is when scum outnumbers town. Third parties doesn't count. Why kill ghost then? He could get a mislynch on me today, kill someone tonight and try to get a plurality lynch tomorrow. But all these would have been been even faster accomplished had he killed someone last night. I don't know. the fuck is this post I don't understand what you're trying to say. who is the "he" trying to get a mislynch on you today? why did you completely not comment on the part where xsksc found you scum? | ||
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On June 24 2012 19:52 xsksc wrote: It's all good, it does waste a day, but it'll confirm my claim+result. I'm just baffled that you think this is all some clever gambit to buy an extra day so I can use my mysterious power and win. It's a watertight theory. One thing though...I was free to shoot last night. Why didn't I? It doesn't implicate Ghost because I've just claimed Hyaach is anti-town, and it doesn't buy me town-cred. Explain to me why you think scum xsk holds his shot there (without calling me an idiot this time, pretty please) and I'll die a happy man.  The argument would be that in order to win you need to convince the 3P players to help you out. It actually doesn't matter if you make a night kill or not in that scenario because the numbers work out either way that if you're alive tomorrow and claim, you can hope to get hiro/strongandbig/ghost on your side and outnumber town. So you would choose the route that would seem most counter-intuitive in order to buy as much town cred as possible. something like that anyway. | ||
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Drazerk has had it out for the third parties since the beginning. Ghost is acting weird too. meanwhile xsksc has been acting townie as fuck but how knows what that means. If he's scum he really shouldn't be going along with acro's plan but I guess he would have no choice in the matter. I'm not sure about lynching into strongandbig/hiro. They are useful allies for town at the moment. If they're scum, I'm not sure I'll care about losing to them, because that would just be dumb. I also doubt there are five anti-town forces in a 15 player game. Four seems more likely, and I think it's one of xsksc/hyaach and one of drazerk/ghost. Only reason I can think to lynch into neutrals is so we can get another check out of xsksc (that we won't know if we can trust) since scum can't really kill him if he's town. To be honest I'd still rather lynch hyaach. What do we need a roleblocker for anyway? | ||
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if we're going to lynch third party, why not ghost? fourface claimed insane dt - why? probably because his ass wanted to mislead town. He's a survivor alright, but wins with scum. Just a thought. Also ghost has been acting weird since he's arrived. | ||
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On June 26 2012 01:49 Acrofales wrote: @Tali: what makes you think Hyaach is scummier than xsksc? Is it the mechanics? Or is it his behaviour? Basically up until I wrote the two cases, I found Hyaach to have a moderately acceptable filter, whereas xsksc's was terrible. Since then Hyaach has lurked and xsksc has acted townie (I agree with you there). Acting townie when your life's on the line is pretty easy though, for scum. Even Majuju managed to do it in Holy Roman and he was scummy as all hell until the pressure really came on. Then he made some decent contributions before he flipped scum. Enough to convince me and some others that he was less scummy than Sinani (turned out he was exactly equally scummy as Sinani  )I'm with you for the most part. I found xsksc very scummy initially. I even voted for him day one perhaps because of a misguided connection to maju. hyaach has the plus of having said the shit that deconduo pointed out, but his role and everything else doesn't make much sense. xsksc has been townie since then but who knows. at this point I'm kinda with deconduo. I wouldn't mind ghost dead but at some point we have to stop worrying about millers and this that and the other and just figure out who the last scum is. Like, if we lose because hyaach is a miller roleblocker... ok? I mean I've never even heard of that so I won't feel bad about myself. If we lose because snb and hiro are kp-less scum (making 5 scum in a 15 player game) then fuck it, I won't feel too bad about that either. But if we lose because we didn't lynch xsksc and hyaach when it was sitting on our plates the whole time.... I dunno. | ||
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On June 26 2012 02:18 HiroPro wrote: That's not bulletproof, that was just a veteran right? no it was bulletproof too. in bangbang as well roleblock removed bulletproof. anyway acrofales is right, it's academic since it's a bastard game. | ||
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The reason a NK was withheld was either to make ghost look bad, or because it didn't matter. Like, if it's a 1 on 1 between xsksc and hyaach and whoever's scum between them knows that, then they know the only way they have to win is to convince the third party players to join their side, and I think mathwise that happens tomorrow regardless of if they used a NK or not. The other possibility is that the NK was replaced by a traitor being recruited or something. Eh fuck too many possibilities. | ||
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On June 26 2012 02:46 Acrofales wrote: If ghost is 3rd party and scum withheld a kill to make him look bad, they are really stupid. What does scum win? 1 extra day in which we eliminate 1 3rd party. There's still the same number of townies as yesterday and we have eliminated one of the possibilities where scum might be hiding. I have gone through all possibilities and it really made no sense for scum to withhold KP yesterday. My night plan was made in order to wifom scum into thinking it did and they *might* have fallen for it (I was hoping they did). However, if we assume scum can actually think things through for themselves, then they should know withholding KP was a bad move. Funny if they just forgot to send it in. | ||
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___________ also, fuck me for changing my vote. Worst play of the game probably. xsksc says he's going out to get food but I knew he would be back right after the deadline =/ He's lurked all the deadlines so far. Leave it to a scottish guy to come up with "sherlock holmes" for his fake DT name. ___________ Also, how come no one is pointing out strongandbig's roleclaim now?? Ghost's behavior makes perfect sense in light of his name. He knew he was third party planar dragon, and therefore assumed SNB must be lying. I'm kind of with him on this (and this is the only good thing to come of ghost's lynch). Do we really think there are two third party planar dragons? Remember this post from pregame?? On June 16 2012 02:30 strongandbig wrote: Note that they also only said no "planer" dragon. There very well could be a "planar" dragon. Also more people sign up for this!! SnB had it in his head since then to make this fake claim. Other points: this explains why hiro and and SNB wanted to go last so bad when we were claiming (the stated reason was kind of bullshit). they didn't want to pick the same name as someone else. but fuck me if there really are 5 scum in this game =/ | ||
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