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On June 10 2012 06:08 grush57 wrote: That post was useless. Don't give information to the enemy? Wow, never thought of that. Solstice clearly didn't think of that. Another sarcastic remark? What happened to answering those questions? Why aren't you hunting scum? Why haven't you provided any analysis? + Show Spoiler + Blazinghard, if you are still watching this, you might get your wish from mafia LV | ||
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On June 10 2012 06:16 ShiaoPi wrote: Oh wow, thread got really active while I was cheering on the Germans. What I would suggest right now is to stop tunneling grush for the time and add some pressure to ha236. I am still waiting for answers regarding my question and his post is basically the statement that he is ready to jump on grush if he gets to be the primary lynch candidate. Not saying that I am clearing grush from the suspicions but he cannot contribute that much if he keeps defending, give him some leeway until we really have to consolidate on a lynch and see what he can cook up. he hasn't been defending though. He's been posting filler all day long, apparently without any of his own opinions. He has had plenty of time to cook something up. But he hasn't. That's why, i will continue to question his actions. On ha236, i have pressured him some (on his post and solstice's post on his post). He is suspicious, but as of now, Grush is far more so. | ||
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On June 10 2012 06:42 grush57 wrote: I'm not even going to bother with you anymore. I don't think you are scum though, a bit bold for scum. Hyaa and the one lurker left for scum team! Avoiding answering my questions again. That's the spirit! | ||
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On June 10 2012 08:04 ha236 wrote: I feel like you're that implying starting the bandwagon (coming up with a argument that other people seem plausible) is a bad thing. If so, what's the meaning of talking at all? No. I'm not saying that starting the bandwagon is a bad thing. If i did, i would be praising you, which i obviously wasn't. Actually, how do my words translate to the bolded phrase? I'm saying that you are leaving yourself open to either lynch or not lynch grush and use either part of the post to support your actions. Scum team is Grush and Ha236. This game is over. | ||
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Grush is the person with the question mark over his head (more like a red and white target board w/e) but you seem perfectly content to let him live on the basis that he is making noob mistakes. This is where you can defend yourself for not voting grush. However, you send some light criticism his way, just in case you do want to vote for him. | ||
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I'm being transparent. Go analyze my posts if you disagree. You are starting to look more like grush. And you're saying that throwing out an opinion is better than waiting some and collecting more information as the game goes along is a bad thing tell me where i said that. | ||
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On June 10 2012 08:52 s0Lstice wrote: ha236, sharing your opinions is fine, even if that opinion is "i'm not sure on him yet." You however did a play by play of Lazermonkey....kicking it off with how you felt his posts looked strange, continued to build a sort-of case?, and then agreed with his findings. Your thoughts are a problem because they contradict themselves. I'm pretty much convinced that you are the perfect candidate for us to lynch D1. ##Vote:ha236 His posts were strange, but the idea behind them was agreeable. Grush was being very wishy-washy. Do you really think ha236 is a better case than grush? Ha looks like a solid day 2 candidate. By all means pressure him, but keep in mind that this is a extended majority vote. | ||
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On June 10 2012 09:03 s0Lstice wrote: Now as far as grush is concerned... The only thing in his filter that raises my eyebrows is the 'nothing to talk about' post. The rest is neutral mostly, because it's OMGUS tit for tat defense against Release. I want to see what he does when he doesn't spend every free minute defending himself. he's not defending himself. He writes very generic townie shit and calls it a defense. He self claims that his sarcastic response is his defense (the claim might be sarcastic, who knows what he believes is actually the truth). He provides zero analysis, discourages discussion, claims that there is little to talk about after we have done a lot of talking. He has plenty of time to defend himself. According to you, he is OMGUSing, which does not even require reading the thread, so there is a contradiction with the bold phrase. | ||
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On June 10 2012 09:17 ha236 wrote: What's the deal with some of the players only caring about the opinions of a few others? It's kind of cute though. rofl. It was his post and thought process i was questioning. Most people haven't even voted yet. Go do some real analysis. | ||
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On June 10 2012 09:27 s0Lstice wrote: Really? Because it seems like every time I refresh the thread you have a new post going after him. You are pressuring him pretty hard. He feels the need to respond to every single post, with OMGUS or something else mostly useless. I grant this is bad play, as he should have disengaged from you a lot sooner than he did. The point is the read on him is not strong, as his filter is full of garbage. This can be a scum-tell, yes, but there is also town motivation for his behavior. As town, he is incredulous that you are pursuing him so hard...this explains the sarcasm, the snippy remarks etc. He erroneously feels his best move is to match you hit for hit, and this will help confirm him as a town read. He's been told to post something that contributes, and what he does will be good information. It will certainly be better than what we have on him now. If it's not, then hell yea let's lynch him. I wouldn't be pressuring him so hard if his responses showed an udnerstanding of the thread and the game, but in particular, looked like they took him more than half a minute from scratch to finish. | ||
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Time to start getting your votes in. | ||
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On June 11 2012 02:31 grush57 wrote: K, we all know ha is mafia and that post pretty much tells who the scum team is. Besides defending a suspicious player and being very suspicious, he isn't scummy to me. Random ass numbers. He isn't making a bold move and a clear opinion on things. Very scummy. As town you have to stick to your guns like Release.That's why Release is my only 100% town read. Also, all the people somewhat defending me right now are town as well, as I know I'm town. The mafia are going to push me as I'm the most suspicious and somewhat defending Ha like KtheZ is. nice one. | ||
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On June 10 2012 21:56 ha236 wrote: This part stands out to me. You're basing your suspiscion on the fact that solstice and Release have said so? I might have misunderstood this but the reason people think I'm suspicious is because I've softly defended grush. If I havn't allready let me go over it again; I don't think grush is scum. In my opinion there is not enough information to decide this, basically the only thing grush has posted about is trying to defend himself against Release's relentless nitpicking of his posts. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you overestimate the value of that conversation. Anyone in their right minds understands that encouraging the rest of the players to not post (not exposing any information) so you're stuck at square one for the whole game pretty much labels you as mafia instantly. It's way to simple to lynch him because of this. He felt obligied to defend himself since he didn't want to end up in the situation (that he's in now anyway) where he's look suspicious because he hasn't answered peoples questions. No, it's because you said what Lazermonkey said was strange, and then agreed with him. Are you claiming that he is or isn't scum in the second bold? You said earlier that there is not enough information was now you say "way [too] simple to lynch him..." So the reasoning is obvious, therefore you don't want to lynch him? | ||
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And KenMan, that FOS was the most ridiculous shit i've ever seen. Should have been a vote. | ||
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On June 11 2012 04:20 ha236 wrote: Your ignorance is hilarious, I've said countless times that I agreed with him on that one point but thought the rest of the post was strange. Why is it you continue to bring this up? Who are you trying to fool? Perhaps you should read what you just quoted/wrote. I said that I cannot decide anything based on that discussion because it doesn't provide enough information for me which is exactly what I've allready said. About the voting... At this my attention is on Release and solstice sseeing as they insist on allways bringing up my post on Lazermonkey, how I contradict myself (which is wrong), and instantly after this I'm #2 on the scum meter? I might be missing something here but the logic behind their decisions are to me very lacking. Also it annoys me when people are stating that others are 100% town because they stick to their opinions? This is the pinnacle of ignorance, there's an expression that goes "Don't judge a book by it's cover" which aplies nicely here. "Sticking to your guns" is what tunneling someone is all about, an informed decision is made by taking information from many sources and analyzing and compiling them to a well thought-out thesis. Ex. Having one source on the source-reference page in an essay will most definately net you an F. haven't read the whole post but i'm going to clarify something right now: On June 10 2012 06:03 Release wrote: To check if this really is Grush's first game is a tremendous waste of time. There are far too many game to check. (i believe we have 55 regular mafias and 15 newb ones.) To me it looks like he is trying to buddy up to grush but i can't be sure of that. I agree; playing the noob card as reasoning is too much assumptions. It looks more like the two quoted posts are strange (and putting words in grush's mouth) but the agreement is that grush has been wishy-washy. I think ha is setting himself to jump on the bandwagon if there is one, or to avoid starting one if there isn't. I'm the one who is agreeing with your post on monkey. I was bringing up the general reason why there was suspicion behind you in the first place. And thanks for voting for solstice. ##unvote: Grush ##vote: ha236 For now, solstice has been quite helpful. Your voting for him because he was the first person to cast suspicion on you is rather silly. if anyone, you probably should have voted for me. | ||
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Voting is mandatory, would hate for inactivity to kill another game. | ||
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