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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 30 2012 22:44 GMT
#141
@Radfield It helps because scum apparently don't get to vote for what role they get. This means that the only way they can make sure that they can't get caught not having a vote is if they split it 1-1-1. Sbrubbles already showed a scenario where we could tell something about alignments based on what people voting and encouraging everybody to encrypt their votes in the thread before voting ensures that scum can't lie about it based on what role they actually ended up with.

I agree that it's a long shot but you seem weirdly against it instead of just going along with it. There's zero chance of harming town and a chance of getting some information about scum. Just do it man.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 30 2012 22:55 GMT
#142
My mafia role PM encryption
+ Show Spoiler +
ZZZZZ XXJTH KKXJL XFJBP FSOJH UJIOT BLWKH AXLFN BQPXQ LFELT VUJHI
RXQWC KPFOV ONBAR MLJAI IAUJW NUOTW JQJVE FRMBF CQBAX LJHWR XCTUW
EAFGF WSFEO CAQLG EFBKC CLMZZ YYYYY
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 30 2012 22:58 GMT
#143
That makes sense. I skim read that stuff, and didn't really understand it(obviously).

If our votes say a framer should have been picked, but then a roleblocker gets flipped, we essentially have a listcheck on the framer votes for X amount of scum.

I'm happy to encrypt mine if people want me to, but I think it's pretty obvious what I picked....
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 30 2012 23:06 GMT
#144
yeah same here
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 30 2012 23:07 GMT
#145
Always tryin to bandwagon me toad
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 30 2012 23:09 GMT
#146
PM encryption
+ Show Spoiler +
##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/
ZZZZZ GTOWD APBBB UCOUL KFCJU KKUER GWVNB AAGIP UKTTS TXOTO UARUM
BUSUL WHIIK SNUBT CUNGL AMKNU KIUPA KAESW LRCWN VFWGM AZZZZ YYYYY
##### End encrypted message
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 30 2012 23:13 GMT
#147
On May 31 2012 08:07 Radfield wrote:
Always tryin to bandwagon me toad

I am pretty sure it' the other way around
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
May 30 2012 23:14 GMT
#148
Updated list of what I think the poison order should be:

Day 1: #3 Secret Hidden Vote
Day 2: #6 Majority +1
Day 3: #4 Mayor Election
Day 4: #1 Lynch Lock
Day 5: #7 24 Hour Day Cycle
Day 6: #5 Hidden Lynch

Not Used: Secret Ballot


Obviously, the hiding role/alignment of the lynch can be used whenever/if we have lylo.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 30 2012 23:14 GMT
#149
On May 31 2012 08:13 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 08:07 Radfield wrote:
Always tryin to bandwagon me toad

I am pretty sure it' the other way around

Ah crap no. You actually were first to say that :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
May 30 2012 23:15 GMT
#150
And a new encrypted role:

+ Show Spoiler +

ZZZZZ GJNLL IRXGM PUBSF MPAHF NLNXV TBBGF JGJHL SJSPW RWJUT SNNDC
RCRGK ELJIK LROXB JVKHT FMJFW LIPWW IRBVP CQAJJ SUJCO PGQXN WRCCC
WVCEW AVUWJ WBMKE XCVHH EIIZZ YYYYY
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 30 2012 23:24 GMT
#151
my rolevote:

+ Show Spoiler +
##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/
ZZZZZ ILTQG LNVIF XWBWP QCJPH XGHTW IJBFH ADBGR WPKRG SXHRQ FQRXH
DQAIH GKFIB KJVBP AHAMV AWLHH WXONO QUIBB ITBDP XSACT NIUPI UTAET
ENGVF UCJBI OAXCD IFWNJ OPTZZ YYYYY
##### End encrypted message
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 30 2012 23:27 GMT
#152
On May 31 2012 08:14 HiroPro wrote:
Updated list of what I think the poison order should be:

Day 1: #3 Secret Hidden Vote
Day 2: #6 Majority +1
Day 3: #4 Mayor Election
Day 4: #1 Lynch Lock
Day 5: #7 24 Hour Day Cycle
Day 6: #5 Hidden Lynch

Not Used: Secret Ballot


Obviously, the hiding role/alignment of the lynch can be used whenever/if we have lylo.



Secret ballot is actually pretty non-scary once we only have 1 mafia left.

I would probably rather slot Secret Ballot into Day 5, bump everything else up 1 and take out Majority +1 or 24 hour cycle. Majority +1 is a poor Day 2 slot, and should be used for a day when we have an obvious lynch target.

Really though, none of the poisons are very dangerous if we use them appropriately.



prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 30 2012 23:28 GMT
#153
+ Show Spoiler [vote] +
##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/
ZZZZZ AXVQC OQTIL SAFUK IBHUC VHSFS HWJKE MWFTI IEQXP OVLUV GBRQO
VRXCE MNOTG LLPBP BFODR HHRMT JWWMQ GCLPC PMNJM SVFVN OZZZZ YYYYY
##### End encrypted message
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 30 2012 23:32 GMT
#154
On May 31 2012 08:27 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 08:14 HiroPro wrote:
Updated list of what I think the poison order should be:

Day 1: #3 Secret Hidden Vote
Day 2: #6 Majority +1
Day 3: #4 Mayor Election
Day 4: #1 Lynch Lock
Day 5: #7 24 Hour Day Cycle
Day 6: #5 Hidden Lynch

Not Used: Secret Ballot


Obviously, the hiding role/alignment of the lynch can be used whenever/if we have lylo.



Secret ballot is actually pretty non-scary once we only have 1 mafia left.

I would probably rather slot Secret Ballot into Day 5, bump everything else up 1 and take out Majority +1 or 24 hour cycle. Majority +1 is a poor Day 2 slot, and should be used for a day when we have an obvious lynch target.

Really though, none of the poisons are very dangerous if we use them appropriately.





Was just about to post the same thing. I've been saying the whole time I really don't think we need to use both majority +1 and secret hidden vote. If there's going to be a day 6 somehow, then hidden lynch is fine on day 5 because we don't need to know the flip - either the game ends or it doesn't and secret ballot doesn't really matter day 6.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
May 30 2012 23:40 GMT
#155
On May 31 2012 08:32 talismania wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 08:27 Radfield wrote:
On May 31 2012 08:14 HiroPro wrote:
Updated list of what I think the poison order should be:

Day 1: #3 Secret Hidden Vote
Day 2: #6 Majority +1
Day 3: #4 Mayor Election
Day 4: #1 Lynch Lock
Day 5: #7 24 Hour Day Cycle
Day 6: #5 Hidden Lynch

Not Used: Secret Ballot


Obviously, the hiding role/alignment of the lynch can be used whenever/if we have lylo.



Secret ballot is actually pretty non-scary once we only have 1 mafia left.

I would probably rather slot Secret Ballot into Day 5, bump everything else up 1 and take out Majority +1 or 24 hour cycle. Majority +1 is a poor Day 2 slot, and should be used for a day when we have an obvious lynch target.

Really though, none of the poisons are very dangerous if we use them appropriately.





Was just about to post the same thing. I've been saying the whole time I really don't think we need to use both majority +1 and secret hidden vote. If there's going to be a day 6 somehow, then hidden lynch is fine on day 5 because we don't need to know the flip - either the game ends or it doesn't and secret ballot doesn't really matter day 6.



Ok I see what you're saying. If it's day 5 with a possibility to go into day 6 (meaning that a medic made a save), it'd be 3 town-2 mafia, so the game would end if we got the wrong lynch. Ok, then I guess majority+1 never needs to be used.

And then I guess everything can be bumped up 1, the way that Radfield says. The question then becomes, is mayor election better for day 2 or day 3?
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 30 2012 23:55 GMT
#156
My initial thought is that mayoral election is probably better day 3, lynch lock on day 2. The thought process being that the longer the game goes on, the more likely we will have strong reads. But thinking about it, I'm not sure that is the case.

The strongest townies will be dead by Day 3, and we'll likely have pretty strong town reads by Day 2 given that we have an extra 24 hours of discussion right now.

Given that, I would probably be in favor of a mayoral lynch Day 2, and the lynch lock on Day 3.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
May 31 2012 00:00 GMT
#157
I think it it might be better to make that decision when night 1 rolls around and then depending on our own personal reads, we can vote whether or not the mayoral election should be day 2. If it's not day 2, I think it has to be day 3. After that, the strongest townie reads would pretty much all be gone I think.


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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 31 2012 00:18 GMT
#158
Crap. Forgot to remind you guys, GET YOUR POISON VOTES IN!
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Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
May 31 2012 00:34 GMT
#159
Kurumi and wbg need to vote
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Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 31 2012 01:06 GMT
#160
On May 31 2012 09:00 HiroPro wrote:
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