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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 12 2012 16:50 GMT
#441
"yeah but ever after that annul game you thought I'm mafia every game we played"

NOT. In L i knew you were town from the start, last game you started wierd because you were mason.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 12 2012 16:56 GMT
#442
and this game I might have a gun being kind of a dayvig or I'm one of the few people without a gun while being surrounded by bunch of people screaming to kill each other. You think that could possibly make for a weird start as well?

Although I don't think I'm starting weird at all. I made it very clear how and what I think about people so far, obviously not talking about people I consider to be townish and I have 2 guys I consider / considered to be mafia so far. For n0/d1 that's quite a lot imo, yet you're pressureing me for not having an opinion
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 12 2012 17:06 GMT
#443
I say we have Gonzaw shoot payl. We find out if Gonzow has a gun and if he does, we off the single post Smurf. I have a feeling at least one if not more of the mafia are in the lurking crowd intentionally or not and it is causing confusion in the Mafia ranks.

If gonzaw won't fire lets let chaoser kill him.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 12 2012 18:06 GMT
#444
On June 13 2012 00:41 chaoser wrote:
Point of the matter is, no one was going to agree with it, especially not the person I was asking to do it since everyone has come out against "shooting early".

My asking him to do it though, does bring out a shit ton of pressure. First of all, to gonzaw, given his stances so far, I should be appearing extremely scummy to ask him to shoot immediately and he should be all over me trying to pressure me about why I was doing something that he SHOULD be considering to be scummy.

But he doesn't. Instead he starts focusing on the SK when he SHOULD be focusing on mafia. "RoL is SK, no wait, WBG is SK." He's not responding back to my asking him to shoot; in fact he's taken a passive stance to it "I will only shoot if everyone wants me to". Given what he had said previously (and his play in previous games), he SHOULD be acting like zentor, but instead he's backing away from my pressure.

Well I'm turning on the full pressure now. Gonzaw, you can shoot me if you want, let's see it. Or do you want to say you don't think I'm scummy?

The beautiful thing about this game is that everyone can act on their reads if they want. That means mafia can't just go off making cases against people because in the end, they would be forced to back it up (shoot). That puts a lot of restrictions on mafia. Townies however, don't have that restriction; to be sure, townies are somewhat restricted but they are not as restricted as mafia. So to pressure them to shoot their suspicions, is one very good way to catch mafia. If they can't respond, then they're mafia since they can't shoot.


I don't find you suspicious because of the way you've been pushing it and the way you are trying to pressure me.

I do want to know why exactly you find me scummy though.


Oh and sorry I won't be able to have the pleasure to shoot you, but thanks for outing me as blue on n0!



I don't have a gun



Here I'll prove it:

#Kill: gonzaw

I won't claim my role though, that would only create more shitstorm.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 12 2012 18:14 GMT
#445
now you claimed blue?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 12 2012 18:15 GMT
#446
full claim or i shoot you in the next minutes.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 12 2012 18:15 GMT
#447
On June 13 2012 01:07 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 00:58 marvellosity wrote:
But how can you distinguish between him being a blue who can't shoot and a regular goon? You cannot. The only way you can tell is by analysing him in the first place, and by doing that we come to the decision he's scum.

So just shoot him. See what I'm saying?


Given his posting, he's definitely not a blue since he keeps saying "I'll shoot if everyone wants me to, etc. etc.". He's basically pushing the issue off while trying to get town to focus on the SK (by talking about if RoL is it or WBG is it). If town bites on the SK bit and shoots one of them then day ends and he gets to leave another day, hopefully to disappear from the forefronts of our thoughts.


I didn't want to out myself as blue so soon just because 1 guy (you) was buggering me about shooting.


*sigh* Right I see how fucking suspicious this looks now.



Okay people, if you really want me dead, at least let us do this:

Try to find someone else suspicious that should shoot me

If I'm to be the D1 shot, at least I want to catch other goons/RBers before I die.



For now I still think Zentor could be one of those. He spent the whole n0 and beginning of d1 trying to blend in with filler, but didn't post anything about what he thought.
But now he is suddenly coming to my rescue out of nowhere, and I find that odd. Scum already know that I'm town (if I was SK I'd not shoot last night and shoot today), so it's easy for them to come up with reasons to defend me.
Yes, it's not infallible, but it makes me a little bit suspicious of him.

Another player I'd want to shoot me is wbg, but to be honest I doubt he's scum at this point (I thought he was SK initially, but well that was before RoL's claim). I don't think he's "not GF" type of scum because of him volunteering to shoot me, so I don't want him to shoot me now.
I'd want him to shoot at least once in the game though...just in case this was a scheme of his as goon to avoid shooting.

I'll reread and try to come up with someone else to do it.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 12 2012 18:17 GMT
#448
On June 13 2012 03:15 supersoft wrote:
full claim or i shoot you in the next minutes.


No you shouldn't shoot me, someone else would.


I'll claim my full role the minute someone puts ##Kill: gonzaw in the thread.
Posting info about my role before would only serve to cause more shitstorm, and if I'm somehow kept alive to cause even more shitstorm (with RBs and stuff) later.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 12 2012 18:17 GMT
#449
"I won't claim my role though, that would only create more shitstorm."

I really can't think of a reason why you shouldn't claim except the hosts didn't give you guys your fakeclaims yet.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 12 2012 18:18 GMT
#450
lol dude, i love the feeling to shoot scum. I will if you don't claim. I certainly will :D
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 12 2012 18:19 GMT
#451
I know what these type of claims can do.

If I claim Medic for instance let me assure you it will cause a shitstorm with people still wanting to shoot me, but people wanting to save me.

It's better to just forget about it and not let it come into play.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 12 2012 18:19 GMT
#452
Lol gonzaw's formatting is wrong, he didn't put the double #

Anyway why don't we have someone like MrZentor, or supersoft shoot shoot gonzaw? Let's discuss this for a bit, it doesn't have to happen now. However, I think those 2 are the most likely to be scum if gonzaw is also scum. If they can't shoot then perhaps we're on to something.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 12 2012 18:19 GMT
#453
No you won't.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 12 2012 18:20 GMT
#454
hahaha I got a gun dude, don't suspect me without giving reasond ^___________^
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 12 2012 18:20 GMT
#455
Nevermind on the supersoft bit. His most recent 2-3 posts make it far less likely.

We should have Zentor shoot gonzaw.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 12 2012 18:22 GMT
#456
On June 13 2012 03:20 wherebugsgo wrote:
Nevermind on the supersoft bit. His most recent 2-3 posts make it far less likely.

We should have Zentor shoot gonzaw.


Very happy with this
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 12 2012 18:22 GMT
#457
I +1 Zentor shooting me.

We still have time though, a lot of people haven't posted yet (risknuke, kitaman I think), and some people still haven't posted their actual thoughts on this scenario (Toad I think).
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 12 2012 18:23 GMT
#458
On June 13 2012 03:20 wherebugsgo wrote:
Nevermind on the supersoft bit. His most recent 2-3 posts make it far less likely.

We should have Zentor shoot gonzaw.


lol I already had the killmove typed in :D
please let me shoot :D OMG i am so pumped to shoot this claimed scum :D

"won't claim to prevent shitstorm, aka dont want to decide what to fakeclaim"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 12 2012 18:24 GMT
#459
On June 13 2012 03:22 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 03:20 wherebugsgo wrote:
Nevermind on the supersoft bit. His most recent 2-3 posts make it far less likely.

We should have Zentor shoot gonzaw.


Very happy with this

I concur with this statement.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 12 2012 18:25 GMT
#460
We could have payl shoot me as well....but most likely he won't even show up at all and we'll end up NLing.
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