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On May 27 2012 08:04 VisceraEyes wrote:Cool. I'll be brief. I want you to lynch me if you PROMISE TO LYNCH BUGS NEXT. Everyone seems to think either Bugs or I am scum or that we both are. As such, if you guys have a handle on this outside the two of us, I prefer you just get us out of the way first so whoever is left is confirmed whatever. Please guys, no one is going to listen to anything I say at this point and I'm just a distraction. Remove it. Also I'm the Doctor, so if you don't lynch one of me or Bugs, I'm dead tonight anyway. Gg guys, sorry I allowed Bugs to mindfuck me so hard this game. 
where has anyone said their thoughts on you or bugs
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On May 27 2012 08:45 Nova_Terra wrote:
now heres the thing. VE is going to heal me now. if i die, VE is scum, or maybe hell dispute my claim a ton now. unless teres a roleblocker and/or VE is scum i'll have another read for next day.
why would you say this anytime that is not 2 seconds before the deadline
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EBWOP 2 seconds before the end of night deadline
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On May 27 2012 08:49 Nova_Terra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2012 08:48 Mattchew wrote:On May 27 2012 08:45 Nova_Terra wrote:
now heres the thing. VE is going to heal me now. if i die, VE is scum, or maybe hell dispute my claim a ton now. unless teres a roleblocker and/or VE is scum i'll have another read for next day. why would you say this anytime that is not 2 seconds before the deadline didnt realize there would be such massive pushing against a hiro lynch and i hadnt planned on claiming until VE claimed 
not the claim... all the wifom crap about you getting shot
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On May 27 2012 08:13 VisceraEyes wrote:No I haven't been breadcrumbing...I'm paranoid about scum figuring them out before town whenever I roll blue :/ N1 I protected froggy and N2 I protected Tune...I literally flipped a coin between him and Marvelous
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Ok guys, the way I see it we have 2 fights.
VisceraEyes vs Wherebugsgo
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Nova_tera vs HIropro
We have the 2 claims of VE (Doc) and NT (Det).
I firmly believe that ANY BLUE ROLE SHOULD COME FORWARD AND CLAIM NOW, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE ONE OF THESE 2 ROLES.
Also, I believe we should be voting on the NT vs Hiro case because we get a confirmed scum out of the claim (NT if Hiro flips green and Hiro if NT isn't lying) despite how confident VE is in his read
I was wrong about the Zealos vs Hiropro situation so I would like more opinions on them before I make my vote. Right now I side with believe NT and would like to vote Hiropro
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I vehemently disagree. If VE were to flip doctor, all we are left with is his READ on WBG and we are in LYLO, just as if we flip WBG and he flips town, we are left with VE being wrong and we are in LYLO.
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On May 28 2012 03:05 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 02:44 Mattchew wrote:
I vehemently disagree. If VE were to flip doctor, all we are left with is his READ on WBG and we are in LYLO, just as if we flip WBG and he flips town, we are left with VE being wrong and we are in LYLO. If VE flip doctor we have to deal with it then. We are left with alot other than VE's read. The reason we should lynch VE is that it doesn't make sense from a town perspective, and he is very probable scum. A counterclaim won't do anything towards this, unless it is a scumcounterclaim, which we can lynch day 4, that won't happend. You say you believe NT, now what? We lynch Hiro? What if he flips town, then we are left with nothing else than NT's claim which still might be true. And we are worse off than if we lynched VE and he by some off chance actually flips doc. VE knew that he would be lynched by claiming like that, and if he was rational when doing so he is definately scum, and have an agenda for doing so.
If hiro flips town we lynch NT. Scum have had literally no reason to frame Hiro (especially after the Zealos fake claim) and if he flips miller then we got fucked and thats it. The odds are EXTREMELY higher that one of hiro/NT are scum than VE/WBG
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sure... you guys wanna do it this way, i was wrong before so I'll go with town...
##vote visceraeyes
but i think this is retarded, froggy you say you don't believe NT's claim and yet you want to lynch VE.. that MAKES NO SENSE... at least if you are wrong with NT you get scum in hiro
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Remember that time? Oh yeah, now we have to lynch who? WBG? Tunkeg, wheres your brilliant backup plan.
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I am voting WBG tomorrow... You guys wanted to go with VE's plan (regardless of what you thought of him thats what you did) so we might as well fulfill it.
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On May 29 2012 08:40 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 08:35 Mattchew wrote:
I am voting WBG tomorrow... You guys wanted to go with VE's plan (regardless of what you thought of him thats what you did) so we might as well fulfill it. I am not. I am not going with any VE plan. I voted him because he did a unbelivable stupid claim.
you seem so humble. do you think you are smarter than VE? or better yet, a better mafia player?
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Yeah so, VE is 100% confirmed town, a vet by many peoples standards, pushed WBG's lynch in a pro-town manner (not JUST yelling and screaming but also asking individuals by name to respond to the case) and he would be playing against his win-con to be lying or pushing WBG on purpose if he was town. I think thats enough for me and any townie to vote WBG on
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Also, just so its in the thread, I think WBG/Tunk/Hiro are the remaining scum team
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On May 29 2012 09:16 zelblade wrote:
Wtf ve
It doesn't even matter if bugs does flip scum that claim was horribad
what about it exactly made it horribad?
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On May 29 2012 09:33 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 09:27 Mattchew wrote:On May 29 2012 09:16 zelblade wrote:
Wtf ve
It doesn't even matter if bugs does flip scum that claim was horribad what about it exactly made it horribad? Do you think it was a good claim? Why? That is what needs to be answered, The entire town voted for him. You are the only one who thinks his claim was any good aparantly. So stop with these nonsense questions. God damn scum! I am voting you tomorrow no matter what...
I think that his claim was justified, cause if he had not claimed, we woulda all been like VE WHY YOU NO CLAIM YOU SOO STOOPID.. also, he justified all his actions, whether you like his justifications or not, he did justify them and attempt to reach out to all of you to tell you this, sorry you didn't listen,
you do realize, that 1 wrong vote tomorrow means town loses. so if by some UNBELIEVABLE turn of events, you are actually town, that means the entire scum team can jump on your wrong vote and win the game.
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On May 29 2012 09:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
you opposed the zealos lynch for the longest time, and now you apparently think VE is infallible just because he flipped town.
VE was lynched not because of his plan. That's fairly obvious. His notion that I am scum was moronic. He was lynched because he claimed doctor under no lynch pressure merely to ensure that I get lynched afterward. He had no DT check of me. He had no reason at all to call me scum. He was nothing more than dumb. If you are town how do you not see this?
So now you realize that it was moronic to lynch VE instead of NT/Hiro... cool
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I am playing the hand we were dealt WBG... I believe that playing with a player of the caliber of VE that his main read for like 2/3 of the game is almost as good (if not arguably better) than a DT check
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On May 29 2012 09:57 Navillus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 09:11 Mattchew wrote:
Yeah so, VE is 100% confirmed town, a vet by many peoples standards, pushed WBG's lynch in a pro-town manner (not JUST yelling and screaming but also asking individuals by name to respond to the case) and he would be playing against his win-con to be lying or pushing WBG on purpose if he was town. I think thats enough for me and any townie to vote WBG on I don't know whether I think we should continue with VE's plan atm but I do think we have to acknowledge the, at this point, real possibility that he just screwed up and made a mistake. We're gonna be at lylo tomorrow and if we follow through with what VE said we have to be sure that he knew what he was saying and was pointing everyone in the right direction.
and why would he have been pushing us in the wrong direction?
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On May 28 2012 02:01 Mattchew wrote:Ok guys, the way I see it we have 2 fights. VisceraEyes vs Wherebugsgo
and
Nova_tera vs HIropro We have the 2 claims of VE (Doc) and NT (Det). I firmly believe that ANY BLUE ROLE SHOULD COME FORWARD AND CLAIM NOW, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE ONE OF THESE 2 ROLES. Also, I believe we should be voting on the NT vs Hiro case because we get a confirmed scum out of the claim (NT if Hiro flips green and Hiro if NT isn't lying) despite how confident VE is in his read I was wrong about the Zealos vs Hiropro situation so I would like more opinions on them before I make my vote. Right now I side with believe NT and would like to vote Hiropro
On May 28 2012 02:44 Mattchew wrote:
I vehemently disagree. If VE were to flip doctor, all we are left with is his READ on WBG and we are in LYLO, just as if we flip WBG and he flips town, we are left with VE being wrong and we are in LYLO.
On May 28 2012 03:18 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 03:05 Tunkeg wrote:On May 28 2012 02:44 Mattchew wrote:
I vehemently disagree. If VE were to flip doctor, all we are left with is his READ on WBG and we are in LYLO, just as if we flip WBG and he flips town, we are left with VE being wrong and we are in LYLO. If VE flip doctor we have to deal with it then. We are left with alot other than VE's read. The reason we should lynch VE is that it doesn't make sense from a town perspective, and he is very probable scum. A counterclaim won't do anything towards this, unless it is a scumcounterclaim, which we can lynch day 4, that won't happend. You say you believe NT, now what? We lynch Hiro? What if he flips town, then we are left with nothing else than NT's claim which still might be true. And we are worse off than if we lynched VE and he by some off chance actually flips doc. VE knew that he would be lynched by claiming like that, and if he was rational when doing so he is definately scum, and have an agenda for doing so. If hiro flips town we lynch NT. Scum have had literally no reason to frame Hiro (especially after the Zealos fake claim) and if he flips miller then we got fucked and thats it. The odds are EXTREMELY higher that one of hiro/NT are scum than VE/WBG
yup im spineless
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