On May 30 2012 09:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Shut up Toad you're not worth a mafia bullet. You cause so much disruption regardless of alignment it's no wonder everyone calls you hypnotoad.

We kill gambit man today. He ninja voted ET yesterday and he's said nothing. Eat shit and die, scum.

##vote Gambitx32

Whoa there buddy, we don't lynch lurkers here...we shoot scummy lurkers with holy bullets of townie fury....not hang them. How about we lynch someone who's posting so we can get information with our lynch?

Ya? No? I like your target other than the fact that his lynch will net us no new information.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

May 30 2012 00:56 GMT

#1064

No, I lynch scum and scum exist indiscriminately of their posting activity.

If we had no vigis and all 6 scum lurked, by your plan none of them would ever die. Can't have that, now can we?

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

May 30 2012 00:56 GMT

#1065

after reading WBG's vote I was like "huh, who's that?"

and then I was like: G32's filter

._.

.___________________________.

##vote Gambitx32

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

May 30 2012 01:00 GMT

#1066

On May 30 2012 09:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
No, I lynch scum and scum exist indiscriminately of their posting activity.

If we had no vigis and all 6 scum lurked, by your plan none of them would ever die. Can't have that, now can we?

We absolutely can't, and if I were convinced that all 6 scum were lurking I'd definitely be down with lynching a scummy lurker...but as it stands, D2, I personally would rather find active scum. You can count on my support if it's needed though Bugs...Gambit has definitely gotta go one way or the other.

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

May 30 2012 01:02 GMT

#1067

Gambit's two posts sound a lot like newer mafia posting noncommital lists of reads and then not following them up.

However, I'd rather wait to vote until we've got a bit more information rather than during the first hour or two after the night post.

I'm also still waiting to hear an answer to my questions for stofu, his posts look similar to me.

Probulous

Australia3894 Posts

May 30 2012 01:03 GMT

#1068

Hi everybody!

I am counting on people giving me a break to read the thread, so don't expect too much from me immediately. At least I am replacing in fairly early into the game.

It's about time I won a game so I will be putting in the effort here. The roster looks good and from my initial read some of the vets are looking pretty townie so we have no reason not to win.

Note: To help get an idea on people's thoughts, please ask me some specific questions. It is always hard when catching up to get a feel for people because the timing of posts is hard to work out. So fire away and I will do my best.

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

May 30 2012 01:03 GMT

#1069

S&B bussing

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

May 30 2012 01:05 GMT

#1070

On May 30 2012 10:03 Blazinghand wrote:
S&B bussing

For once... We agree

jaj22

United Kingdom1376 Posts

May 30 2012 01:07 GMT

#1071

I called out GambitX32 for only having one post during day 1. He proceeded to produce... one more post.

##vote GambitX32

Either that or Zealos, but he's got some activity excuse until the second half of day 2 so there's not much point in prodding him.

I'd love to find active scum but I'm not even convinced that there are any.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

May 30 2012 01:07 GMT

#1072

All I'll say VE is that I'd rather not pigeonhole myself when it comes to killing scum. Scum are scum and they all flip red. No particular reason for me to prefer lynching the active ones over the inactives. I'd rather just kill them as they come and force the rest of them to deal with it however they want to.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

May 30 2012 01:07 GMT

#1073

I'd prefer targets other than Gambit. When you called him out yesterday, you said he hadn't voted and had posted two unhelpful walls of text. The walls weren't helpful at all, but he DID vote.

That plus a claimed hit is the extent of the case on Gambit.

If we're lynching players for lurking and looking scummy when they don't, everyone seems pretty set that Zealos looks actively scummy. Why should we lynch Gambit based off your claimed hit and poor posting, when Zealos has had poor posting and seems less likely to modkill himself out of the game?

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

May 30 2012 01:09 GMT

#1074

Um, how about we lynch Gambit cause he's a scummy lurker instead of whatever you think the reasoning is?

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

May 30 2012 01:14 GMT

#1075

If we're looking to lynch Gambit because he's a scummy lurker, why should I vote him over Zealos?

If we're looking to lynch inactivity/lurking, why should I vote Gambit over cwave and phagga?

I'm happy to vote Gambit if there's a reason that doesn't apply to 2 or 3 others. If we're just going to go after "scummy lurkers," I'd prefer to go after the one that's least likely to get modkilled for inactivity. Zealos is the only one of those 4 that's managed to post every cycle.

Don't get me wrong here, lurking mafia won my last game easy. We DID hit the point that the only scum left were lurkers, and town just killed itself off. I'm absolutely not against lynching into our lurkers. But mainly I want to know why Gambit over Zealos.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

May 30 2012 01:16 GMT

#1076

Bugs what do you think of Zealos? Could you get down on a lynch like that?

jaj22

United Kingdom1376 Posts

May 30 2012 01:16 GMT

#1077

Well, ideally Gambit would realise that the pressure on him is serious, and post enough as a result that we can tell whether he's scum or town. I'm never sure what the right amount of pressure is though. I tried the half-assed method and that got one post out of him.

To complete the nightkill list, MZ's public scumreads were Kitaman and Mattchew.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

May 30 2012 01:17 GMT

#1078

So he should live because he voted?

The fuck kind of defense is that?

Blazinghand

United States25559 Posts

May 30 2012 01:18 GMT

#1079

On May 30 2012 10:16 jaj22 wrote:
Well, ideally Gambit would realise that the pressure on him is serious, and post enough as a result that we can tell whether he's scum or town. I'm never sure what the right amount of pressure is though. I tried the half-assed method and that got one post out of him.

To complete the nightkill list, MZ's public scumreads were Kitaman and Mattchew.

I thing the right amount of pressure is to just lynch him ^^

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

May 30 2012 01:22 GMT

#1080

I don't think he should live, I think he should eat fiery vigilante justice....Zealos has actually posted though and I feel much more comfortable with a Zealos lynch personally.