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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 30 2012 00:02 GMT
#1021
He might have been a blue-snipe. Not running for office and lurking into oblivion speak to me of scum aiming for blue....that's the only thing I can imagine is up with the Mattchew shot....but again...WHY NOT SHOOT THE SOON-TO-BE-CONFIRMED-TOWN?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 30 2012 00:04 GMT
#1022
On May 30 2012 08:58 Toadesstern wrote:
maybe they thought I am going to be uber-protected or I am a lyncher. Thanks wiggles I guess

there were people already discussing my lynch yesterday. I guess they thought they could wait a day to check if I really am a mason or a lyncher.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 30 2012 00:07 GMT
#1023
Yeah I guess...

Your ass better be active Toad, and I don't mean posting I mean READING bro. We all know you can post. Show us you can read too. And please stop spamming about how important you are. We all get it, it's very funny. Now stop.

Now, who do you think should be considered for lynch today? Note I didn't ask you who we should lynch, I asked you who should be considered...which is begging a response of at least 2 or 3 people.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 00:11 GMT
#1024
Hey guys... I wasn't shot... But strongandbig fell into my trap cause he knew this (Aka his team didn't shoot me)... If the trap failed it would have made scum believe there was a vig shot already used or an sk or something (Aka giving them fake game info) so it seemed like a win-win
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
May 30 2012 00:14 GMT
#1025
On May 30 2012 08:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh I see what you're saying - because "my kill" didn't go through so your thought is I could be pushing "Forumite doublestacked" as a smokescreen or something. Is that what you mean?

Yeah, that. Theory rendered obsolete by MZ's hit-claim anyway.

Also my pass through Forumite's filter is now less relevant. Scum reads on Zealos and Manason. Town reads on Supersoft, ET, Wiggles. Doesn't have so much weight if he wasn't doublestacked.

On May 30 2012 08:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, cool...Toad town...

......but why? Why would scum leave a soon-to-be-confirmed-town alive?

Medic fear, I guess.

Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 30 2012 00:14 GMT
#1026
I'd say something like: Hyaach, kitaman27, strongandbig

Supersoft is really hard to judge right now. I don't know what happned yesterday and it seems really scummy he was getting at wiggles so hard. I did that as well but I told people to lynch him the next day making very clear that I don't want people to shoot him. So I think I made it very clear I tried to protect him by making him a bad target for mafia. Supersoft however called for vig hits.
I don't think wiggles looks any good or any bad, he's pretty much a null for me. The point about the lynch stands, it was incredible stupid and if I were mafia I had lynched someone like Sinensis, because that lynch gave us 0 information. However that's not a reason to lynch wiggles only based on that one thing. He might have felt more strongly about the lynch for whatever reason.
However back to Supersoft I find the calling for vig shots really, really weird but I don't know what was on his mind just yet. Need more time to judge that.

Sadly about 15 people in my sheet of awesome are still white because they either just replaced in, got warned or haven only barely dodged the modkill / warning. That makes things kinda hard...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 00:15 GMT
#1027
We should be lynching snb cause I just exposed him as scum to the thread
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 30 2012 00:16 GMT
#1028
Well apparently not Jaj, because apparently Mattchew was NOT shot...so your theory could technically still be viable.

It's not accurate, because I'm not scum, but factually it is still up for debate.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 00:19 GMT
#1029
What do you think of my play ve
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 30 2012 00:21 GMT
#1030
On May 30 2012 09:00 strongandbig wrote:
Could Mattchew have been a vig shot? MZ and Foru make way more sense as scum kills but Mattchew doesn't make any sense there.

what mattchew said about this and do you remember people calling shots for MZ?
I don't think there is any reason for a townie to assume mattchew was a vig target and at the same time consider MZ a good target for mafia but not likely to be a vig hit when people pushed MZ the last couple of hours.

That's really odd.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 30 2012 00:21 GMT
#1031
Ummmm, mattchew - if I was a vig I would've shot you. It doesn't take secret scum knowledge to realize that it would be retarded for scum to shoot you after how you posted d1 and n1.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 30 2012 00:23 GMT
#1032
On May 30 2012 09:21 strongandbig wrote:
Ummmm, mattchew - if I was a vig I would've shot you. It doesn't take secret scum knowledge to realize that it would be retarded for scum to shoot you after how you posted d1 and n1.

why did you assume MZ was shot by mafia and not by a vig like Supersoft has asked people to?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 30 2012 00:23 GMT
#1033
@toad - meapak is relatively vet-ish, was posting a lot and looking pretty townie. How is that not a better scum target than mattchew, who is vet-ish but posted almost not at all and was super scummy?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 30 2012 00:24 GMT
#1034
Your trap? You know I'm not a fan of lying to town ever. That being said, it was a clever play if it pans out....my problem lies with how hard it is to convince town that your conclusion is the correct one in situations like this: for example, if SnB were scum, why would he provide ANY insight as to the night-kills? In fact, why would he comment on your hit at all if he were scum? I understand what you're saying in that "as scum he would know that scum didn't shoot me", but it doesn't make sense from a scum perspective to comment on your hit.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
May 30 2012 00:25 GMT
#1035
On May 30 2012 09:23 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 09:21 strongandbig wrote:
Ummmm, mattchew - if I was a vig I would've shot you. It doesn't take secret scum knowledge to realize that it would be retarded for scum to shoot you after how you posted d1 and n1.

why did you assume MZ was shot by mafia and not by a vig like Supersoft has asked people to?


Cause I think supersoft is scum. Or at least, he's suspicious enough that vigs wouldn't be listening to him for targets.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 30 2012 00:25 GMT
#1036
On May 30 2012 09:23 strongandbig wrote:
@toad - meapak is relatively vet-ish, was posting a lot and looking pretty townie. How is that not a better scum target than mattchew, who is vet-ish but posted almost not at all and was super scummy?

yeah I considered him townish as well but for a moment I thought I was the only one who thought that way because people pushed him. I don't think he'd make a good mafia target at all.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 30 2012 00:26 GMT
#1037
On May 30 2012 09:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Your trap? You know I'm not a fan of lying to town ever. That being said, it was a clever play if it pans out....my problem lies with how hard it is to convince town that your conclusion is the correct one in situations like this: for example, if SnB were scum, why would he provide ANY insight as to the night-kills? In fact, why would he comment on your hit at all if he were scum? I understand what you're saying in that "as scum he would know that scum didn't shoot me", but it doesn't make sense from a scum perspective to comment on your hit.


Yes, agreed, plus the town motive is easy to see. Did any of you actually click Mattchew's filter? Nothing, nothing at all. If it's not a blue snipe it's an absolutely bizarre hit. I really don't see what's so odd in questioning it.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
May 30 2012 00:29 GMT
#1038
I've seen a lot of town players lynched due to scumslips. It's not too unreasonable to think that Mattchew may have been shot by a vigi rather than a scum player. IF you haven't read his filter, take 3 minutse and do so: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=336250&user=129423

This is not the filter of a scum target.

I wouldn't lynch SnB based on this scumslip alone-- though it is scummy, particularly with his phrasing:

On May 30 2012 09:00 strongandbig wrote:
Could Mattchew have been a vig shot? MZ and Foru make way more sense as scum kills but Mattchew doesn't make any sense there.


This "could mattchew have been a vig shot?" is how a town player would think of it. This makes sense from a town perspective more than from a scum perspective.
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Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
May 30 2012 00:32 GMT
#1039
Because mz was posting alot and looking relatively townish. Why would mafia tried to hit him? why not snipe a vet whose lurking? Mafia knows his not on their team so his enemy 3rd party or not
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 30 2012 00:32 GMT
#1040
well but would a townie really conider a vig when we're missing KP and assume there was a doublestack?
Not saying we should lynch him on that one but it is indead a point to consider.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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