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However, I'd rather wait to vote until we've got a bit more information rather than during the first hour or two after the night post. I'm also still waiting to hear an answer to my questions for stofu, his posts look similar to me. | ||
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On May 30 2012 10:36 Blazinghand wrote: That's true. That's very true. You are not the scummiest player in this game. +1 gold star. Can we at least wait until stofu posts fucking anything before we start accusing me of bussing shit? I looked through majujubees' filters in this, holy roman, and the SNMM he was in. I have the same question for him as I did for stofu: majuju, pls commit to a read. Who do you think is scum and why. | ||
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On May 30 2012 13:36 strongandbig wrote: Can we at least wait until stofu posts fucking anything before we start accusing me of bussing shit? I looked through majujubees' filters in this, holy roman, and the SNMM he was in. I have the same question for him as I did for stofu: majuju, pls commit to a read. Who do you think is scum and why. For the record: I'd be 100% fine with a gambit lynch. Unless he shapes up significantly he is probably scum and deserves to be killed. I just don't like voting so early in the day. I want to be able to use that weapon to push someone if I don't find their answers or behavior satisfactory. In fact, looking at Gambit I do find the way he tried to buddy up with me in the middle of his pile-of-crappy-reads posts suspicious. As I think someone's already said in this thread, buddying up to shitty townies is a classic scum manouever, since they can get town cred when the shitty townie is lynched and flips town. At the point he posted, I was looking like a pretty likely lynch and I don't deny that I was in a shitty spot at the time. "but snb," mattchew says, "if he's scummy for defending you then doesn't that make you his scum buddy?" lol no. There's several reasons that's retarded, but the main one you will find just from reading those posts. Was that an actual defense of me, where he committed to an opinion, or provided evidence, or anything? No, it wasn't, it was like one line where he said "hey this guy is probably just a nub town but w/e he might be scum but probably not." Just setting himself up for if I got lynched and flipped town. THAT SAID - I'm still not gonna vote for anyone until I hear from majujubees and stfu. Also - I still think mattchew is scum, and supersoft is scum-ish. Alternatively I guess mattchew could just be pissed at me for shooting him and then gloating about it, but whatever. Still scummy. Also Also - Toad! great to hear that you actually could Mason someone. Let me ask you a question: can you explain a little bit about what your "anti-manipulation power" is? I guess it's okay if you don't want to so you can use it later in secret or w/e but if it was a lie it'd be fine to admit it imo now that we know the rest of your claim is true, as long as you explain it. It's just that something outlandish like a "power that keeps you from being manipulated by the person you're masoning with" doesn't really make sense to me, since that would require the host to jump into your PM convos somehow, and it's the main thing still making me doubt your claim. | ||
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Here's the reason I wanted toad to say something about this claimed anti manipulation power. When you're dealing with a nonstandard power, and when you're dealing with greymist, role does not always equal alignment. Since I have trouble imagining how this power would work, I have trouble believing it. It still feels to me like toad was lying to get elected mayor. That said, I understand that revealing how it works could make it less useful if toad at some point masons a scum or someone he thinks is scummy. So what about this: toad, when you get a mason buddy who you're like 100% sure is town, could you explain this thing to them and they could tell the thread whether they believe you? Also, toad, why did you claim when you did? If the answer is just "to become mayor," then why did you want to be mayor so badly? | ||
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Also if you explained it to MZ and he believes you I'm satisfied. I think he's probably town. | ||
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are roles in the OP alignment confirmed like matthew says? The OP says we can have variants of some roles, does that include variant alignment or only variant abilities? | ||
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On May 31 2012 03:30 VisceraEyes wrote: He can't be third party because MZ confirmed him. He is either a mason or both he and MZ are scum. Which is the theory you prefer? MZ confirmed that he's a mason, not that he's town. In a game with multiple different masons why would you assume they're all town? Again, until we have mod confirmation of that interpretation of the rules I don't think we should act as if we have more information about the mechanics than we actually do. | ||
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But, IF there are *two different masons* with different powers, as Toad claims there are, I see no reason why they would both have to be town. | ||
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Lol k. The role list also doesn't say the mason can change targets or have some magic anti manipulation power in his PMs with his mason buddy. But fine whatever moving on. | ||
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On May 31 2012 07:56 Toadesstern wrote: I'm going to give you a read out my diary from yesterday that I left for my circle in case of preemptive face-lossage weird as in I think you're 3rd party, as in I think you're trying to act like a townie rather than being the somewhat weird townie you usually are.
That's why a VE lynch would be a least hilarious, but yeah I really think you are 3rd party. If you're not 3rd party take it as a compliment but I doubt you're going to flip town. For reference: Scum VE sometimes plays exactly like the "third party VE" you describe. link | ||
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1. Not taking a position is scummy, there's nothing to hold you to later 2. Townies have no way of influencing the game other than voting (and posting lol), not voting takes a lot of the fun out of playing as town. | ||
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But his play this game reminds me too much of the scum play from him in wheel of fortune. It seems no one checked this out in my last post, so I'll post again the link to radfield's case which nailed him that game. In addition to that, his defense of himself was kind of similar, although he took a somewhat different attitude towards Radfield's than to MZ because of their different reputations. Anyway in that game he also posted a longish case after being seriously accused, which he framed as "whether I live or die this person is scum so here's my last help to town." But the main thing is both games include him jumping around between lynch targets and not making a really serious case until after someone made a big serious case on him. ##vote: visceraeyes Just an FYI, though - I'm not 100% confident in this vote. Wbg is right that lynching VE is always risky, plus I'm not sure that VE would be so open with his buddying as scum. The thing is, he could. I think we need to keep up the pressure on gambit and zealos - especially gambit, since he still hasn't even responded to the mason question. I also want to keep it up on supersoft. Apparently other people are giving him a "free pass" for his shitty ass posting night one, but it's high time to step it up. | ||
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Town people, what is the argument against giving VE a target tonight and lynching zealos or gambit? I get that we still won't be sure of VE's alignment if his target dies and flips town, since scum could divert a kp; but how is forcing scum to divert a kp to someone we might otherwise mislynch not a huge win for town? | ||
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Tell me this - if VE gets roleblocked tonight then won't we just waste all of day 3 on the same crap if we no lynch today? Ugh, MZ's case is covincing but my gut is like "no bro don't do it!" | ||
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On June 01 2012 07:33 marvellosity wrote: strongandbig, you're gonna have to make the decision you think is right. Will we go through this tomorrow is not really a valid thought process for deciding on whether someone is scum today, though. Did you vote with me on Hiro on gut? Fuck no. I voted with you because your arguments made more sense. My gut was saying "bro marv 100% scum yo". | ||
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