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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 02:05 GMT
#1129
So offended I'm not on that list
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 02:16 GMT
#1141
Me and ken almost never play together despite one of us being in almost every game
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 02:23 GMT
#1147
A third thing... bh has made minimal paints and has not tunneled a townie to the point if hat eating... This cal
Bh is not a town meta read
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 02:24 GMT
#1148
Calm* not cal
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 02:28 GMT
#1152
Anyway can we go back to lynching snb
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 02:30 GMT
#1155
Ve and ken and bh what do you think of snb's posting alongside him falling into my trap... Have you noticed his absence since conversation shifted away from him
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 02:31 GMT
#1157
On May 30 2012 11:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
I see what you're doing Mattchew. I see it bro.

Mattchew wants to lynch SnB

There, now even people ignoring you can see it.

Thanks I'm on a plane on my iPhone and formatting posts suck
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 02:32 GMT
#1158
On May 30 2012 11:31 Blazinghand wrote:
SnB is prob scum, trying to bus his scumbuddy G32

Care to elaborate more so I can be lazy and echo your thoughts if I agree
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 04:36 GMT
#1180
Um wbg... You should read the thread
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 04:37 GMT
#1182
You know like actually read it... Not just say you read it...
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 04:56 GMT
#1189
On May 30 2012 13:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 13:36 Mattchew wrote:
Um wbg... You should read the thread


I've read it, and the entirety of your filter.



On May 30 2012 13:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
anyway it doesn't matter.

The solution to this dilemma is simple.

There is 4 claimed KP from last night. 1 is confirmed to have gone to Forumite. 3 are claimed by myself, Mattchew, and Meapak.

If no vigi claims a shot that means that one of these players is lying. It's not me, and I really don't think it's Meapak. That leaves Mattchew.

So, as long as there is no vig claim then Mattchew is almost certainly scum.

In before scummy lurker #5 claims a shot on Mattchew


DO YOU KNOW HOW FUCKING IRONIC THIS IS


On May 30 2012 09:11 Mattchew wrote:
Hey guys... I wasn't shot... + Show Spoiler +
But strongandbig fell into my trap cause he knew this (Aka his team didn't shoot me)... If the trap failed it would have made scum believe there was a vig shot already used or an sk or something (Aka giving them fake game info) so it seemed like a win-win

On May 30 2012 09:11 Mattchew wrote:
guys... I wasn't shot...

On May 30 2012 09:11 Mattchew wrote:
I wasn't shot...
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 04:58 GMT
#1190
On May 30 2012 13:51 strongandbig wrote:

Also - I still think mattchew is scum, and supersoft is scum-ish.
Alternatively I guess mattchew could just be pissed at me for shooting him and then gloating about it, but whatever. Still scummy.

hold the phone WHAT
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 05:06 GMT
#1197
On May 30 2012 14:02 wherebugsgo wrote:
why the hell would you lie about getting shot?

holy shit that just makes me mad

cause there was nothing anti-town about it, if snb had not slipped so hard on it, it would have just confused mafia.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 05:06 GMT
#1198
On May 30 2012 13:59 strongandbig wrote:
when you were scum and i was the vig and i shot you

oh my bad
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 05:08 GMT
#1200
On May 30 2012 14:02 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 13:56 Mattchew wrote:
On May 30 2012 13:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 30 2012 13:36 Mattchew wrote:
Um wbg... You should read the thread


I've read it, and the entirety of your filter.



On May 30 2012 13:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
anyway it doesn't matter.

The solution to this dilemma is simple.

There is 4 claimed KP from last night. 1 is confirmed to have gone to Forumite. 3 are claimed by myself, Mattchew, and Meapak.

If no vigi claims a shot that means that one of these players is lying. It's not me, and I really don't think it's Meapak. That leaves Mattchew.

So, as long as there is no vig claim then Mattchew is almost certainly scum.

In before scummy lurker #5 claims a shot on Mattchew


DO YOU KNOW HOW FUCKING IRONIC THIS IS


On May 30 2012 09:11 Mattchew wrote:
Hey guys... I wasn't shot... + Show Spoiler +
But strongandbig fell into my trap cause he knew this (Aka his team didn't shoot me)... If the trap failed it would have made scum believe there was a vig shot already used or an sk or something (Aka giving them fake game info) so it seemed like a win-win

On May 30 2012 09:11 Mattchew wrote:
guys... I wasn't shot...

On May 30 2012 09:11 Mattchew wrote:
I wasn't shot...


derp that's my bad. I glossed over that one post, particularly as you continually attacked snb for doubting you getting shot.

you're still a liar.

I don't like liars.

how does snb know i didn't get shot (before you claimed mind you)... I mean, if we are to believe your claim, what makes you a better shot than me given our filters before the night post. I think (as VE also stated) I looked pretty blue making me a viable shot and at worst a more experienced than most townie kill that probably has no protection
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 05:13 GMT
#1203
On May 30 2012 14:10 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 09:00 strongandbig wrote:
Could Mattchew have been a vig shot? MZ and Foru make way more sense as scum kills but Mattchew doesn't make any sense there.


This post to me seems to display no indication of knowledge of the night kills, just that your shot claim doesn't make sense as a scum one.

and yours does?



+ Show Spoiler [WBG Filter Pre-night] +
On May 30 2012 04:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
Catching up right now.

If anyone needs anything specific let me know, but it'll be a couple hours at the least before I can respond.

On May 30 2012 06:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
why I love supersoft

Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 22:58 supersoft wrote:
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF TOADESSTERN :D


my thoughts exactly whenever I read his posts LOL

I come across first Toad post = oh god wtf

On May 30 2012 06:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
Is there a particular reason Gambitx32 wasn't warned or replaced for not voting? I ctrl-f'd his name in greymist's filter and didn't find anything there either.

I have a scumread on him based on his only two posts in the thread. Both of his posts are massive walls of summarizing nothing. He also asks

On May 30 2012 06:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
oh wtf it cut off.

He asks a bunch of people to state who they're going to vote and stuff but he doesn't vote himself.



Why has no one questioned you about your claimed hit? He knew I was not hit by mafia, so he wanted to out the vig that shot me because thats what scum do when they don't know everything. They try to find it out
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 05:14 GMT
#1204
Btw i am reading along with prob's posts and they are awesome I <3 Prob (ps this could be our first game as town together?!)
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 05:30 GMT
#1213
On May 30 2012 14:22 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 14:14 Mattchew wrote:
Btw i am reading along with prob's posts and they are awesome I <3 Prob (ps this could be our first game as town together?!)


Could be, depends if you're town or not. You're not making much sense

If I get your thinking right, it goes like this
  1. You're town and you claim a shot and only scum know that you were "not" shot by scum.
  2. SnB says you were shot by a vig
  3. Because he discounted the possibility of you being shot by scum, he knows you weren't shot by scum, and so is scum.
The problem is that this assumes you're town. In SnB's eyes, you looked like scum so of course any shot your way would come from a vig. I don't understand the basis of your trap and WBG is right to get pissed at you for lying about it.

I suggest we all grow up, drop the issue and lynch based on posting rather than one's interpretation of a failed trap.

But my trap worked to perfection. I fail to see how I was scummier than WBG or MZ before the night post, so why are their claims taken at face value and mine not. I told the thread early on I would not be active, I have now been posting for almost 24 hours straight (no sleep or breaks) to get back involved in this game. Up until snb, ET was the only one to post suspicions about my shot claim+ Show Spoiler [ET post about my shot] +
On May 30 2012 08:32 EchelonTee wrote:
Mattchew the last KP, unless someone claims a medic protect. I'm curious why he got shot.
, however with both of them not knowing of WBG's claim there is a huge difference in the posts about my claimed hit. ET expressed curiosity as to why I was shot (because IMO he is honestly confused about scum shooting me) while SnB immediately looks for the vig that shot me. I think he was posting to find a vig to claim the shot because he knew it wasn't mafia's doing.

There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 05:35 GMT
#1217
On May 30 2012 14:26 sToFu wrote:
I would tend to side w/ SnB on the issue of Mattchew. His "let me lie to town and spring a trap" strategy seems inherently flawed, and I do think that SnB's reasoning was solid in that Mattchew would be more likely to be a vig hit than a mafia hit, especially given some of the accusations pressed against him D1.

I was hardly spoken of day 1 and how is my lying flawed. In what way could my lie hurt town unless I were to try and do what WBG is doing pushing for a liar lynch cause of an unclaimed extra shot (something I had no intention of doing)

Plus, if you believe that MZ, WBG and forumite were the 3 scum kills, why (as scum) would I post that I was hit knowing that 2 others could easily claim and get me lynched for lying unless I had other purposes with the claim (as I did cause I am town)
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 30 2012 05:37 GMT
#1218
On May 30 2012 14:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 14:13 Mattchew wrote:
On May 30 2012 14:10 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 30 2012 09:00 strongandbig wrote:
Could Mattchew have been a vig shot? MZ and Foru make way more sense as scum kills but Mattchew doesn't make any sense there.


This post to me seems to display no indication of knowledge of the night kills, just that your shot claim doesn't make sense as a scum one.

and yours does?



+ Show Spoiler [WBG Filter Pre-night] +
On May 30 2012 04:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
Catching up right now.

If anyone needs anything specific let me know, but it'll be a couple hours at the least before I can respond.

On May 30 2012 06:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
why I love supersoft

Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 22:58 supersoft wrote:
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF TOADESSTERN :D


my thoughts exactly whenever I read his posts LOL

I come across first Toad post = oh god wtf

On May 30 2012 06:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
Is there a particular reason Gambitx32 wasn't warned or replaced for not voting? I ctrl-f'd his name in greymist's filter and didn't find anything there either.

I have a scumread on him based on his only two posts in the thread. Both of his posts are massive walls of summarizing nothing. He also asks

On May 30 2012 06:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
oh wtf it cut off.

He asks a bunch of people to state who they're going to vote and stuff but he doesn't vote himself.



Why has no one questioned you about your claimed hit? He knew I was not hit by mafia, so he wanted to out the vig that shot me because thats what scum do when they don't know everything. They try to find it out

Matt, I think you're grasping a bit here, and I disagree. Strongandbig wasn't asking for the vig to claim, he was just asking the thread if they thought you made sense as a vig shot. Frankly, you'd be a confusing mafia shot, since you hadn't done much in the thread, and people were suspicious of you. WBG on the other hand, may have been shot for bringing up a lurker who was scum (gambit), or he could have been shot on reputation alone to kill a vet when he'd be more unlikely to have protection or make an impact on the game.

So, it makes sense to me for strongandbig to question your hit, since it didn't make much sense for scum to hit you. It made more sense for a vig to hit you. I don't think you can use that post as a point against him.

Right now I'm trying to determine who I think is scummiest/want to lynch from kitaman/supersoft/zealos/gambit.

God hindsight is 20/20 in this thread... Obviously now that people know I wasn't actually hit its super easy to say "omg you weren't a scum target thats so obvi duhhh" but before all the other hit claims no one said this except ET and SnB. And ET did not discount that scum shot me, he just expressed interest in it
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