Pick Your Power: Redux

On May 15 2012 01:58 sandroba wrote:
@decon I asked this already and they are informed. I fail to see how dropping godfather is good. Means that if gf is ever killed we get a bonus mafia for free.
@toad tell me how assigning cpr will help to keep it off mafia hands. GF is strong because it's imunity to checks + 1 free kill. But it's way stronger as mafia so that's why it's in the denial plan. Unlike cpr which is strong as both alignments.

On May 16 2012 18:22 Palmar wrote:
I hereby define everything that's been said in the thread as pointless spam.

On May 16 2012 19:04 deconduo wrote:
[1,1] Almost changed at the last minute but decided against it. Glad I didn't now



CPR and Janitor are probably the most dangerous mafia roles, so we want to know exactly where they are and who has them. This is why we assigned them to #1 and #2 picks. This is fine if town are #1 and #2, but if there is a mafia there, they can claim they picked CPR/janitor, when in reality they picked some other good mafia role, and had a teammate who is at the bottom of the draft pick CPR/janitor instead. This way they get 2 strong roles instead of 1 strong 1 weak. However if you claim you will RNG between CPR/janitor then its a huge risk for mafia to drop down a role. They have a 50/50 chance of both getting killed AND losing the pick, being left with a man down and another with a vanilla pick. It keeps them honest and stops them from dropping strong roles down the draft list.

On May 16 2012 20:13 risk.nuke wrote:
So many plans, I'm going to think on this. I may or may not follow them. I may or may not tell you if I decide to follow them. Honestly though, your arguments arent nearly as persuasive as you think they are.

On May 16 2012 21:35 risk.nuke wrote:
Oh and denying cpr is stupid. The Janitor. there is a dangerous role. Cpr. Not so much Toad got no idea what he is talking about. Or rather he only sees half the picture.

On May 16 2012 22:56 Qatol wrote:
Marvellosity, don't let the discussion here confuse/WIFOM you. You should still be randomly generating (like random.org or dice if necessary) between Janitor and CPR. We want as little predictability as possible for the mafia in the role selection process.

On May 16 2012 23:16 risk.nuke wrote:

About the cpr.
First lets just establish the cpr. It's a powerrole. We can just say it's conditioned vigilante. And a vigiliante is a very good role to have as town. This game is a 3way due to the serialkiller. And as in any multi-team battle it's more important to strenghten your own team then weakening one of the enemy teams. Numbers will always work against the numerously leading team. Saying vigilantes should never be used because it will shorten the game is dumb, super dumb and even dumber then that. The scumteam will have a much better idea of what powerroles are where and set the pace of this game. Trying to pick powerroles to for a specific playstyle (Delaying the game) will only block us and bite us in the ass.

And please don't discuss what roles which team wants to pick. Most of it is common sense but discussing that informations only purpose will be to make it easier for the mafia to choose their picks. If you want to discuss shit, discuss scumreads.

On May 16 2012 23:20 zelblade wrote:
@Risk.nuke

Since you agree Janitor is dangerous when in scum hands just follow the plan and take it -_-

I really do not see the problem here

Also, what do you think about Qatol's plans for where our discussion efforts should go to today?

On May 16 2012 23:24 risk.nuke wrote:

No you're an idiot because you're scared shitless the mafia "might" get the cpr, which is pretty damn unlikely to begin with. It will be easy to figure out if the cpr is in the hands of mafia or town. And since people should and will try to go for the cpr we will know it's one in the top branch who have the powerrole. So finding a mafia cpr won't be that bloody hard after 2 nights so they will likely not even risk their resources trying to go for that role.

On May 16 2012 23:55 risk.nuke wrote:
I said it wont affect them at all if you bothered to read before you spurted out your bunch of nonsense.