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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 06 2012 23:35 GMT
#57
##Vote: Nomination
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 08 2012 01:26 GMT
#82
wow,

/in please!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 08 2012 12:55 GMT
#149
Any news on whether you think you'll be able to expand the game, GM?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 14 2012 17:00 GMT
#301
On May 15 2012 01:58 sandroba wrote:
@decon I asked this already and they are informed. I fail to see how dropping godfather is good. Means that if gf is ever killed we get a bonus mafia for free.
@toad tell me how assigning cpr will help to keep it off mafia hands. GF is strong because it's imunity to checks + 1 free kill. But it's way stronger as mafia so that's why it's in the denial plan. Unlike cpr which is strong as both alignments.


Surely the point is you want to keep roles that are strong for mafia away from mafia, and the fact it is strong for town is irrelevant?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 14 2012 20:56 GMT
#373
To be simpleminded for a moment - is the general advice to pick whatever numbers you like?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2012 01:17 GMT
#473
not bad with the worst pokerhand
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2012 09:52 GMT
#493
On May 16 2012 18:22 Palmar wrote:
I hereby define everything that's been said in the thread as pointless spam.


no u
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2012 09:53 GMT
#494
P.S. Do I have any option other than to retardedly RNG a role? I'd quite like to pick one, actually.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2012 09:54 GMT
#495
Shit, now I'm going to have to read back why 3rd is supposed to be RNGing. Anyone care to summarise?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2012 10:06 GMT
#497
On May 16 2012 19:04 deconduo wrote:
[1,1] Almost changed at the last minute but decided against it. Glad I didn't now

Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 18:54 marvellosity wrote:
Shit, now I'm going to have to read back why 3rd is supposed to be RNGing. Anyone care to summarise?


CPR and Janitor are probably the most dangerous mafia roles, so we want to know exactly where they are and who has them. This is why we assigned them to #1 and #2 picks. This is fine if town are #1 and #2, but if there is a mafia there, they can claim they picked CPR/janitor, when in reality they picked some other good mafia role, and had a teammate who is at the bottom of the draft pick CPR/janitor instead. This way they get 2 strong roles instead of 1 strong 1 weak. However if you claim you will RNG between CPR/janitor then its a huge risk for mafia to drop down a role. They have a 50/50 chance of both getting killed AND losing the pick, being left with a man down and another with a vanilla pick. It keeps them honest and stops them from dropping strong roles down the draft list.


An unexpectedly quick and understandable explanation, thank you. I should have paid more attention to such things but my draft pick wasn't designed to place high :/

I'll go along with this as it seems pretty sensible, if a bit sucky for me
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2012 11:15 GMT
#500
On May 16 2012 20:13 risk.nuke wrote:
So many plans, I'm going to think on this. I may or may not follow them. I may or may not tell you if I decide to follow them. Honestly though, your arguments arent nearly as persuasive as you think they are.


Explain why not then, don't just state it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2012 12:48 GMT
#517
On May 16 2012 21:35 risk.nuke wrote:
Oh and denying cpr is stupid. The Janitor. there is a dangerous role. Cpr. Not so much Toad got no idea what he is talking about. Or rather he only sees half the picture.


Denying scum an extra KP every night is stupid because...?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2012 14:07 GMT
#520
On May 16 2012 22:56 Qatol wrote:
Marvellosity, don't let the discussion here confuse/WIFOM you. You should still be randomly generating (like random.org or dice if necessary) between Janitor and CPR. We want as little predictability as possible for the mafia in the role selection process.


No, it's fine, it's more a combination of two things:

1) I didn't get involved in plan discussion, and mainly
2) I didn't expect to be in a draft position where it mattered (7,2 being third is a mystery to me)

I'm fine going along with the plan even if my initial reaction was more selfish - just ask sandroba what I was like in Space Station
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2012 14:18 GMT
#527
On May 16 2012 23:16 risk.nuke wrote:

About the cpr.
First lets just establish the cpr. It's a powerrole. We can just say it's conditioned vigilante. And a vigiliante is a very good role to have as town. This game is a 3way due to the serialkiller. And as in any multi-team battle it's more important to strenghten your own team then weakening one of the enemy teams. Numbers will always work against the numerously leading team. Saying vigilantes should never be used because it will shorten the game is dumb, super dumb and even dumber then that. The scumteam will have a much better idea of what powerroles are where and set the pace of this game. Trying to pick powerroles to for a specific playstyle (Delaying the game) will only block us and bite us in the ass.

And please don't discuss what roles which team wants to pick. Most of it is common sense but discussing that informations only purpose will be to make it easier for the mafia to choose their picks. If you want to discuss shit, discuss scumreads.


Stupid argument. If you're strengthening your team by a tiny bit but weakening the primary opposing faction by a huge amount, your argument is shit.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2012 14:21 GMT
#529
On May 16 2012 23:20 zelblade wrote:
@Risk.nuke

Since you agree Janitor is dangerous when in scum hands just follow the plan and take it -_-

I really do not see the problem here

Also, what do you think about Qatol's plans for where our discussion efforts should go to today?


read his post, he already said what he thinks we should be discussing.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2012 14:27 GMT
#532
On May 16 2012 23:24 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 23:18 marvellosity wrote:
On May 16 2012 23:16 risk.nuke wrote:

About the cpr.
First lets just establish the cpr. It's a powerrole. We can just say it's conditioned vigilante. And a vigiliante is a very good role to have as town. This game is a 3way due to the serialkiller. And as in any multi-team battle it's more important to strenghten your own team then weakening one of the enemy teams. Numbers will always work against the numerously leading team. Saying vigilantes should never be used because it will shorten the game is dumb, super dumb and even dumber then that. The scumteam will have a much better idea of what powerroles are where and set the pace of this game. Trying to pick powerroles to for a specific playstyle (Delaying the game) will only block us and bite us in the ass.

And please don't discuss what roles which team wants to pick. Most of it is common sense but discussing that informations only purpose will be to make it easier for the mafia to choose their picks. If you want to discuss shit, discuss scumreads.


Stupid argument. If you're strengthening your team by a tiny bit but weakening the primary opposing faction by a huge amount, your argument is shit.

No you're an idiot because you're scared shitless the mafia "might" get the cpr, which is pretty damn unlikely to begin with. It will be easy to figure out if the cpr is in the hands of mafia or town. And since people should and will try to go for the cpr we will know it's one in the top branch who have the powerrole. So finding a mafia cpr won't be that bloody hard after 2 nights so they will likely not even risk their resources trying to go for that role.


If you had all this to say, why didn't you bother doing so when the main discussion was going on? You know, when people were asking if anyone disagreed and you didn't say a bloody word, that kinda time?

Mafia getting the CPR becomes increasingly likely if town (for who it is not such a good role) doesn't have a plan for picking it up. And CPR is way way way better for scum than town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2012 14:38 GMT
#537
you may be confusing confused and panicking for better informed
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2012 14:49 GMT
#539
Last I heard not much is still more than not at all
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2012 14:51 GMT
#540
More to the point, why do you think they'd be confused and panicking?

Is this what typically happens after 8 hours of day 1 discussion?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
May 16 2012 15:02 GMT
#543
On May 16 2012 23:55 risk.nuke wrote:
I said it wont affect them at all if you bothered to read before you spurted out your bunch of nonsense.


Accusing me of not reading when you're the one who had an entire day to raise objections to the plan being raised and yet sat there twiddling your silly little thumbs.

Nice.
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