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On May 20 2012 07:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
One small corection to that vote list:
talismania switched from marvellosity to sent. In fact, he was the hammer, as without him, there would not have been a majority.
Im gonna have to reiterate what palmar said; I did not think scum do something like what sent did. He shot himself in the foot for no reason... well, whatever.
I think we should lynch PacMan next, or if any vig prefers, shoot him tonight. nvm, we still dont know if there is a janitor around, we should hold shots for now...
I'm not sure if I was the actual hammer - I think I was 9 and marv was 10. Regardless the vote list is also reflected in my earlier post, where the italicized players voted sentinel and the bolded ones voted risk.nuke.
On the idea that a smart player on the scum team wouldn't let sentinel do what he did yadda yadda that's floating around - does anyone really think sentinel consulted the team before doing it? I'm almost positive he just got flustered about saying he might pick janitor and then ended up tripping over his own shoelaces before the scumteam could tell him that it was o.k. to just wear sandals. Sorry for that analogy >_>
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Okay I have a few thoughts to post now that night actions cannot be submitted any more, but before the day post, just in case I die.
First of all, anyone who took a hit and survived should claim it. It is very important that we get an accurate idea of how many shots were taken tonight. We NEED to know if there is an anti-town (probably mafia) CPR doctor in the game.
Second of all, we need to know if risk.nuke took a shot at anyone and wasn't roleblocked. This will also impact our death count.
Based on this, we should know how many people tried to take a shot night 1. Remember, the only roles left who can shoot night 1 are CPR and Vigilante (JOAT is dead). We should see between 2 and 4 shots, but the interesting numbers are 3 shots and 4 shots.
If there is a CPR out there, the town's first priority has to be finding it. Copy Cat was discussed a lot during the number selection phase, and I would be surprised if the mafia allowed the role to fall very far. Talismania gave us a very convenient list of the voting order cross referenced with the players voting for Sentinel:
On May 19 2012 14:51 talismania wrote:
deconduo [1,1] - Mafia CPR doc (DayVigged by Mattchew)
risk.nuke [4,2] - Vigilante
marvellosity [7,2] - Mason
[UoN]Sentinel [9,1] - Mafia Jack of All Trades (Lynched Day One)
Mattchew [11,x] - Day Vigilante
zelblade [12,x] - Vanilla Townie (Picked JoAT)
Bluelightz [13,x]
talismania [15,1]
Misder [2,2]
PaqMan [2,2]
slOosh [10,x]
Toadesstern [10,10] - Vanilla Townie (Picked Mason)
Barundar [3,1]
Zephirdd [3,2]
hiro protagonist [3,x]
Palmar [5,1] - Pardoner
Snarfs [5,1]
Qatol [5,1]
sandroba [5,1] - Vanilla Townie (Picked Mason)
Probulous - Vanilla Townie (Modkilled)
Bolded players voted for risk.nuke, all others voted for sentinel or were already dead before the votes were tallied. I don't think the mafia were too keen on losing a member this early in the game, regardless of their gambit. I would be shocked if they didn't have at least 1 member and maybe both among the bolded players.
Based on this list, look for potential CPR doctor candidates. I believe zelblade's claim because it was absolutely instrumental in catching Sentinel for sure. I also think that Toadesstern's claim is likely true because it lent credibility to marvellosity when he definitely needed it. The name that should jump out at you is PaqMan. He is definitely the best lynch target for today, even if you don't belive my earlier analysis on him. If anything, just consider how likely it was that he took the Copy Cat role at his position.
However, there is one more thing you need to reconsider if you determine a Copy Cat is in the game and in mafia hands - Mattchew's innocence. I'm not saying that he's the best lynch target - he certainly isn't because he's already used his role's ability. I'm just saying you need to stop giving him "townie" credit for shooting deconduo and start looking at his posts and actions like you would any other player's. I still think it's entirely reasonable for the mafia to shoot their own member so they can get the CPR doctor at an undisclosed location in the queue without worrying about getting roleblocked. And beyond his shot on deconduo, he hasn't been a very pro-town influence in this game.
On the other hand, if there is no CPR in the game, Mattchew should drop much lower on the priority list. However, I still believe that PaqMan is the best lynch target, mostly based upon my analysis earlier and how hard he pushed to lynch risk.nuke as opposed to [UoN]Sentinel. He also has the highest potential for a dangerous role for the mafia.
As an aside, I found at least 2 mistakes in the numbers in your list, talismania - Snarfs claimed he picked [5][5], and Palmar didn't pick [5][1] as a result. Palmar's second number would have to be 2, 3, or 4.
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yeah I just filled that in before snarfs said anything. Also I think Blueligthz said he picked 3 as his second number but that doesn't really matter. First number is most informative here anyway.
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So there were only 10 votes on Sentinel with 10 to lynch? This means that mafia probably doesn't have a politician, correct?
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On May 20 2012 11:38 Snarfs wrote:
So there were only 10 votes on Sentinel with 10 to lynch? This means that mafia probably doesn't have a politician, correct?
Yeah this is a pretty safe assumption. It's likely in SK hands or wasn't taken. I don't think the role is strong enough to warrant a denial pick from the town and I can't imagine the mafia not using it to save Sentinel.
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On May 20 2012 13:15 Mattchew wrote:
When is deadline
3 hours ago, I believe.
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Gmashal watching PL most likely 
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I signed up for Caller game? :p
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On May 20 2012 13:17 Snarfs wrote:3 hours ago, I believe.
Actually, 4 hours ago (well, more like 4 hours 45 minutes by this point). Deadlines for nights are 1 hour earlier than deadlines for days.
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On May 20 2012 13:43 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 13:17 Snarfs wrote:On May 20 2012 13:15 Mattchew wrote:
When is deadline 3 hours ago, I believe. Actually, 4 hours ago (well, more like 4 hours 45 minutes by this point). Deadlines for nights are 1 hour earlier than deadlines for days.
Thought he meant when the day post was supposed to go up. Anyways, hopefully it'll be up in the morning.
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Yeah I just wanna know if im alive
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I have no Internet aside from my iPhone since I am back at my undergraduate to see my juniors graduate. I'll have Internet by tomorrow again since I'll be going back home do I'll be on top of all future cycle posts. I sent GM a pm so hopefully he can cover till then
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Mason has the additional power to delay day/night post once every two cycles. Mainly just to fuck everything up.
Live with it bitches
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No daypost still? I'm shooting PaqMan.
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Daypost will be coming shortly. Posting from phone so excuse the brevity of the post
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Night 1 - Death from a Cell phone
All participates hear a sound to return to their cells and in it they find a list of names crossed out. On that list is talismania and paqman.
Talismania the townie Witch is dead
Paqman the Vanilla Mafia is dead
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EPT
