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On May 20 2012 23:51 Bluelightz wrote:
EBWOP:
@Marv
I made a spreadsheet on the night kills, the results:
CPR (which I think is in Mafia hands): no |
Mafia alignment kill : yes | talis
SK kill : no |
We know risk's vig shot went through so that confirms 1 kill
What I think:
Mafia kill is the one that went through as there is nothing preventing this as this is at the top of the tree of action resolution.
SK Kill was blocked/ hit a veteran.
CPR was roleblocked/ held his power (VERY UNLIKELY)
What do you guys think?
I'd say it's kinda unlikely that we managed to block 2 hits, therefore I'd say no copycatted-CPR and the SK hit a vet or something like that. It's at least easier of an explanation than that + another nighthit that was absorbed.
Also consider we had a witch flip. Not sure if the witch can protect himself / herself (if she can she probably didn't use her power) but I'd say witch using the power n1 is definitely the way to go considering that we have so many people who are looking really good and you have an about 0 chance to accidently protect a mafia considering that mafia has to do something about those good looking people.
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@Qatol
On May 20 2012 21:34 risk.nuke wrote:
No daypost still? I'm shooting PaqMan.
Im assuming he did since anyone else shooting Paq makes no sense (Mafia wont shoot mafia, SK probably shooting into town due to obvious reasons, no reason for a town copycat to not claim, Jack dead, angry vig cant shoot)
Also, since we do get informed if we get hit and survive this problem can be easily cleared up by whoever got shot last night claiming.
And I would also love to know why your partner tried going for politician, though this probably isnt something important that warrants discussion now. Im assuming hes relatively low in the draft? If not we probably could narrow down the list of potential SK candidates.
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EBWOP: That last paragraph was to marv in case that wasnt clear.
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On May 21 2012 00:49 risk.nuke wrote:
Qatol what do you mean?
Simple. I'm the Jailkeeper and I jailed you last night. Please explain why you haven't mentioned that the PaqMan shot wasn't your vigilante shot. You were roleblocked.
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I haven't gotten a pm informing me I was roleblocked. I did atleast try to shoot paqman.
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Ugh,
Have all appropriate night resolution PMs been sent out?
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When does this day end? Is it 48 hours from the time of the day post? Is the original scheduled time (which is ~35 hours from the time of the day post)?
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On May 21 2012 01:08 Qatol wrote:Simple. I'm the Jailkeeper and I jailed you last night. Please explain why you haven't mentioned that the PaqMan shot wasn't your vigilante shot. You were roleblocked.
Question: did you send the action to chaoser? Its possible that he didnt get the action if GM was offline, and afaik you must send it to both hosts.
this or risk is scum and thats fucking awesome because that means I wasnt entirely wrong.
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On May 21 2012 01:50 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2012 01:08 Qatol wrote:On May 21 2012 00:49 risk.nuke wrote:
Qatol what do you mean? Simple. I'm the Jailkeeper and I jailed you last night. Please explain why you haven't mentioned that the PaqMan shot wasn't your vigilante shot. You were roleblocked. Question: did you send the action to chaoser? Its possible that he didnt get the action if GM was offline, and afaik you must send it to both hosts. this or risk is scum and thats fucking awesome because that means I wasnt entirely wrong.
Yes, I sent the action to chaoser (as well as GMarshal, of course). I just went back checked the spelling to be sure.
I've been thinking about this more and I'm not convinced risk is scum - why would he publicly announce a hit night 1 on his only remaining scum buddy? And why would he get caught in such a silly situation afterwards when all he has to do is claim it wasn't him who took the shot? It isn't like he was even under any pressure today. I want to hear from the hosts before we jump to conclusions. More coming in a bit.
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On May 21 2012 01:50 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2012 01:08 Qatol wrote:On May 21 2012 00:49 risk.nuke wrote:
Qatol what do you mean? Simple. I'm the Jailkeeper and I jailed you last night. Please explain why you haven't mentioned that the PaqMan shot wasn't your vigilante shot. You were roleblocked. Question: did you send the action to chaoser? Its possible that he didnt get the action if GM was offline, and afaik you must send it to both hosts. this or risk is scum and thats fucking awesome because that means I wasnt entirely wrong.
Well if risk got roleblocked from Qatol you would have gotten the "you got roleblocked" PM no matter of alignment.
As town he has no clue if he was roleblocked by a townie or a mafia. both would make sense given the vig claim and given the earlier idea to keep KP low early on because there's likely to be a lot KP from mafias side.
So the important point is, if risk got roleblocked he knew that either way. So this is again some kind of shenanigans he's pulling on us to figure out mafia himself with a "trap" because I simply don't see him do that as mafia. He could have easily said he got roleblocked and said he did not shoot him as mafia. No need to lie because he knew (if there really are RB-pms, I don't know about that) he was roleblocked and a lie would bring him into the situation we had with sent yesterday just worse:
Either the RB is a liar or the Vig is a liar and one of them has to be mafia. So if he is mafia he just burried his own grave when he had no reason to tell us such a thing.
But assuming people know how to play mafia made me think sent was town as well so idk lol.
I'm not going to make a conclusion out of that, just laying that information out because frankly it looks like people haven't realized it: Risk would have gotten the PM (if there is one) as mafia as well.
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We should still do the roleclaim and marv should tell us who is confirmed townie. We are down to 1 mafia. We need to sit down reveal our cards and use the information to root out the last scum.
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On May 21 2012 02:22 risk.nuke wrote:
We should still do the roleclaim and marv should tell us who is confirmed townie. We are down to 1 mafia. We need to sit down reveal our cards and use the information to root out the last scum.
na, there is still an SK out there (and if marv is correct, a SK who ran for office)
towns have lost the game from this very position. lets not be to hasty.
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If there is a dt or bulletbill which the only reason we're not roleclaiming is to protect it won't be to hard to figure out who it is now that 12 players have already revealed their roles so they are likely to die anyway. They might die before they can share the information they already have.
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Crap, sorry guys. Qatol did jail risk but I didn't see the PM because opening multiple tabs on Iphone sucks.
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Theres only a few role claims I want to here right now:
copycat, politician, framer, janitor, traitor
We most likely have a rolecop(which is as good as a real DT at this point with the # of claims already) and BB. Between all the roleclaims already and A pretty small list to check, I dont see how they wont find one bad guy by day 3.
Now how will roleclaiming find scum or sk at this point risk? They can claim VT all day long, and all we will do is give the SK/mafia something to shoot at. I dont see the advatage on towns side in role claiming.
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lol, this has been a real comedy of errors. haha, its cool though.
Bring PacMan back from the dead so we can lynch him to death! 
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Can you confirm that you resolved risk.nuke's shot on PaqMan?
Can you confirm you sent out any PMs to people who took a hit but survived (if there were any)?
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To make up for my mistake, I am ending day early as if Paqman had been lynched by town and Night has begun. Send in your actions.
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