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Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
May 20 2012 18:10 GMT
#1121
Does risk.nuke get his shot back?
Uff Da
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 20 2012 18:15 GMT
#1122
Qatol jailed risk but I didn't inform risk that he was blocked.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 20 2012 18:15 GMT
#1123
No he doesn't
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
May 20 2012 18:32 GMT
#1124
As I mentioned earlier, I've been thinking about the situation, and, for now, the combination of marvellosity's partner's claim and my own reads makes me think that risk.nuke is probably town. It makes no sense at all for him to try to shoot PaqMan as a Mafia member when there were plenty of people clamoring for him to shoot Palmar instead. He had no way of knowing for sure whether there was a Jailkeeper out there to block his shot (though it's possible he figured out my role during the night). Also, [UoN]Sentinel's gambit would make even less sense if we had a 2 in 3 chance of hitting mafia.

I agree with marvellosity in that I think the Politician role is in Serial Killer hands, so risk.nuke claiming to have the Vigilante role (which I think is the 3rd most dangerous role and would have been my choice for denial purposes if I had been higher in the queue) would be extremely dangerous and likely counterclaimed. I think we still need to resolve exactly how the night kills worked themselves out, but I think we need to hear from the hosts before we can do to much on that front.

If you tried to take Politician and are a townie, please claim it now (this does not apply to marvellosity's mason townie).

I also believe that the Copy Cat isn't in the game (but this is subject to change, of course, if we see high number of kills during a later night). This means that Mattchew is off the hook for now. I'm sorry it took me so long to say that, but I tend to be a little more paranoid than most in these kinds of games (look at my ranting about things that might be used to kill in PYP1 if you don't believe me). Contrary to what Palmar said earlier, I don't believe anyone here is an idiot for treating him as probably innocent. (Sorry to sidetrack, but the comment has been bothering me ever since Palmar made it the other day.)

I believe we are most likely looking for a Serial Killer with the Politician role and a Mafia member who could have one of many different roles, though Framer, Godfather, Angry Vigilante, and Vanilla seem like the most likely selections. There may also be a Traitor out there, but he is a lower priority because he does not control any kill power. It is also important to note that PaqMan was vanilla, so he went for a role and didn't get it. Day Vigilante and Vigilante seem like the most likely roles he could have tried for, at least out of the ones we know about so far. Just another reason to avoid worrying about Mattchew or risk.nuke right now.

Because it is now night time, I do not believe that role claims are the best idea at the moment. However, we definitely need to reconsider this once the day starts. At the very least, marvellosity's townie probably needs to claim at that point so we can get a better idea of where we're looking for the Serial Killer. And if Bullet Bill finds someone with a gun, Parity Cop finds someone with the opposite parity from himself, or Role Cop finds someone with a suspicious role, they need to claim.

As things stand now, my best guess for the remaining mafia member is Zephirdd. My best guess for the Serial Killer is Misder, SlOosh, or Barundar. I'm not anywhere near as confident about those reads as I was about PaqMan (none of these were deduced through behavior, only role choices and draft list ordering), but I should be able to narrow things down by tomorrow.

Finally, because it looks like risk.nuke's shot on PaqMan went through, it looks like we have a hit missing.

If you took a hit, claim it, please. Otherwise, we're going to have to assume the mafia shot the Serial Killer.

Side note: I wrote most of this while it was still day, so if anything looks a little jumbled, that's probably why.
Uff Da
cherubael
Profile Joined May 2011
United States12 Posts
May 20 2012 18:40 GMT
#1125
This is GMarshal's brother, posting because he asked me to: just letting you guys know, my brother had an eye problem on Friday and is still in the hospital. He should be ok, but he probably won't be out till Tuesday. He said that the other host should keep the game going as normal.
"As an online discussion grows longer, the probablitiy of a comparison involving Nazis of Hitler approaches 1." ---Godwyn's Law
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
May 20 2012 18:44 GMT
#1126
On May 21 2012 03:40 cherubael wrote:
This is GMarshal's brother, posting because he asked me to: just letting you guys know, my brother had an eye problem on Friday and is still in the hospital. He should be ok, but he probably won't be out till Tuesday. He said that the other host should keep the game going as normal.

Thank you so much for the update. I was really starting to worry about him. Tell him thanks for worrying about us and now he should just focus on getting better.
Uff Da
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 20 2012 18:49 GMT
#1127
On May 21 2012 03:40 cherubael wrote:
This is GMarshal's brother, posting because he asked me to: just letting you guys know, my brother had an eye problem on Friday and is still in the hospital. He should be ok, but he probably won't be out till Tuesday. He said that the other host should keep the game going as normal.


Get well soon GMarshal <3
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
May 20 2012 19:05 GMT
#1128
When do we have to submit our night actions by?
Uff Da
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 20 2012 19:10 GMT
#1129
Chaoser not to whine but in fairness I should get my shot refunded

If we're also loosing the day lynch. I mean just that. The trade, a vig shot for a lynch doesn't exacly favor the town. You could argue that trading a lynch for a dead mafia favored us but would town had lost the lynch if I had shot a townie? beeing selective about it depending on the outcome doesn't seem fair. Not to mention we're also loosing the discussion time and if we wanted to our opportunity to roleclaim before the night. And from a technical point of view I didn't shoot him. You just declared him dead and to cover up replaced our lynch with him. So I should get my shot refunded. Please reconsider.


p.s.
get well soon GM <3
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 20 2012 19:57 GMT
#1130
Night actions should be in by tomorrow at 11 PM EST. I'm not giving you the shot back because while it is unfair to town, it is equally unfair for mafia because they lost a day of discussion well.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 20 2012 20:18 GMT
#1131
btw I got roleblocked, I'm not sure waht's going on.
Computer says mafia
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
May 20 2012 20:39 GMT
#1132
On May 21 2012 04:10 risk.nuke wrote:
Chaoser not to whine but in fairness I should get my shot refunded

If we're also loosing the day lynch. I mean just that. The trade, a vig shot for a lynch doesn't exacly favor the town. You could argue that trading a lynch for a dead mafia favored us but would town had lost the lynch if I had shot a townie? beeing selective about it depending on the outcome doesn't seem fair. Not to mention we're also loosing the discussion time and if we wanted to our opportunity to roleclaim before the night. And from a technical point of view I didn't shoot him. You just declared him dead and to cover up replaced our lynch with him. So I should get my shot refunded. Please reconsider.


p.s.
get well soon GM <3


when you are roleblocked you lose your bullet anyway, so its like as if the course of action was
-> risk roleblocked
-> paqman lynched

I don't think the day would have ended in a different way anyways.

Come on now, mistakes happen. keep calm and keep playing.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
May 20 2012 20:40 GMT
#1133
btw night should last an extra 24hours imo
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 20 2012 21:17 GMT
#1134
I'm going to post this here since the OP doesn't look like it's getting updated soon. Known info and deaths:

deconduo mafia CPR Dead day 1 by dayvig mattchew
risk.nuke Claimed Vigilante shot paqman
marvellosity Claimed Mason -> partner is townie who tried for politician
[UoN]Sentinel mafia JOAT Dead lynched day 1
Mattchew Dayvig shot deconduo
zelblade Claimed VT tried for JOAT
Bluelightz
talismania Dead shot night1 Witch
Misder
PaqMan mafia vanilla shot by risk n1 (or lynched day2 =P)
slOosh
Toadesstern Claimed VT tried for mason
Barundar
Zephirdd
hiro protagonist
Palmar Claimed Pardoner
Snarfs
Qatol Jailer -> Jailed risk n1 modconfirmed
sandroba VT tried for mason
Probulous VT modkilled day1

Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
May 20 2012 22:27 GMT
#1135
So apparently people forgot the game.

IMO a massclaim won't be useful; not now during the night(again). Town got a huge advantage right now, having to deal only with one mafia and one SK(and possibly a traitor).

Usually the last scum are those who just "disappear" for me; as in, they do stuff but I don't remember them doing anything particularly useful. sloosh, Barundar, Misder strike me as this. Thoughts anyone?
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
May 20 2012 23:45 GMT
#1136
Mmm. Yes I haven't been particularly useful, mainly because I've just been sheeping Qatol.
I was gonna go after PaqMan after the Sentinel mess because it seemed like it was created as a distraction from the lynch, but it backfired for them and now there is only 1 scum and 1 Sk we have to deal with.

The most surprising thing for me is the lack of janitor use - I would presume that most KP would be fired night 1 and a janitor use night 1 would be of most effect as most people dead = most information denied, but I suppose there could have been anticipation of a witch / angry vig which would make night 2 a better time to use it.

I'll be back in a few hours to post more thoroughly.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 21 2012 00:20 GMT
#1137
Barundar looks kinda killable.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 21 2012 00:24 GMT
#1138
On that kinda contributey but not contributey line. A lot of the first half of his filter is "I agree" and his breakdown of who got what numbers is useful but not in a scumhunty way. Most useful for an SK one could say
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 21 2012 00:36 GMT
#1139
Here I propose something

NON-CPR Doctors should protect Qatol

I think they really should, Qatol right now has no reliable protection(by that meaning that he can be killed ezpz as he is not a vet but he is a jail keeper that can't protect himself I think)
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Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
May 21 2012 00:51 GMT
#1140
On May 21 2012 09:36 Bluelightz wrote:
Here I propose something

NON-CPR Doctors should protect Qatol

I think they really should, Qatol right now has no reliable protection(by that meaning that he can be killed ezpz as he is not a vet but he is a jail keeper that can't protect himself I think)

I disagree somewhat. I think they should be looking for the person they think is most likely to take a hit. If they think that person is me, then yes they should protect me. However, I don't think it is right to simply tell them to protect me no matter what, though I appreciate the thought. It isn't right to dictate their actions for them. There is a reason I emphasized that the person taking doctor should be comfortable with the idea of having that role. The role is a challenge to play, but is obviously incredibly strong if played well.

Also, I'd like to point out that we still don't know what happened to the other hit last night. We really need someone to claim it.
Uff Da
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