Pick Your Power: Redux - Page 43
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
On May 18 2012 21:40 risk.nuke wrote: From my point of view either Sentinel is lying or Marv can only be the Janitor. Yes but you aren't dumb enough to not understand why this doesn't apply to everyone. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
On May 18 2012 21:44 marvellosity wrote: Also me claiming helps nothing if I'm not getting mislynched anyway Sent might be getting mislynched and you claiming helps us with that. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On May 18 2012 21:46 Palmar wrote: Sent might be getting mislynched and you claiming helps us with that. Explain to me how it helps and I will consider it. | ||
risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On May 18 2012 21:45 Palmar wrote: Yes but you aren't dumb enough to not understand why this doesn't apply to everyone. Yeah But I DO Know what I know even if you don't. So it's folly to support your plan just to satisfy your need-to-know egos. This is the worst case scenario: Sentinel is either a vanilla and then I know marv is the janitor. Here is my view on your plan. If there was a 50/50 chance between sentinel and marv then I might claim. But the odds are heavily in favor of sentinel beeing scum so I don't see how the best course of action is to out blues power for that small chance of saving a vanilla. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On May 18 2012 22:00 risk.nuke wrote: Yeah But I DO Know what I know even if you don't. So it's folly to support your plan just to satisfy your need-to-know egos. This is the worst case scenario: Sentinel is either a vanilla and then I know marv is the janitor. Here is my view on your plan. If there was a 50/50 chance between sentinel and marv then I might claim. But the odds are heavily in favor of sentinel beeing scum so I don't see how the best course of action is to out blues power for that small chance of saving a vanilla. Much as I love everyone thinking I'm not the liar, but why are the odds heavily stacked against Sentinel? what am I missing? why isn't it me? | ||
Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
On May 18 2012 21:48 marvellosity wrote: Explain to me how it helps and I will consider it. Maybe I won't believe your roleclaim and I will want to lynch you instead. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On May 18 2012 22:08 Palmar wrote: Fuck this shit, I'll probably pardon sentinel out of spite. enjoy being bad. now who's playing anti-town? | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On May 18 2012 22:54 Palmar wrote: If I pardon a player, does the guy with the second highest votes get lynched? Or no one? No one gets lynched | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On May 18 2012 20:32 Palmar wrote: Can a janitor hide his own flip? Assuming he triggers the power the night he dies, yes. EDIT: Looking at the thread, could we tone down the language please? ^_^ | ||
Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I'm kidding+ Show Spoiler + actually I'm not, please make it happen, and give me 2 day vigi shots while I'm at it Anyway, I'm just going to leave the thread and watch the derp unfold. | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On May 18 2012 21:46 Palmar wrote: I genuinely hope neither of you are town, because I hate having playing with people who play against their win condition just to be assholes. | ||
Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On May 06 2012 03:06 GMarshal wrote: Janitor - Busy always cleaning up after other people's mess. You love your job so much though that you'll even clean up dead bodies. During the Night you may PM me that you want to clean up all the dead bodies in Town. No player's role or alignment will be revealed upon death for that upcoming Day. You can only use this ability once. 1. The Janitor cannot be used on the day 1 lynch. He triggers his abilities at night. There hasn't been a night yet, so there has been no opportunity for him to trigger his ability. 2. I'm relatively certain that the Janitor's abilities don't even apply to lynch results. He cleans up bodies "for the day." That seems to imply that his powers work on day posts (which post the results of night actions), rather than night posts (which post results of the lynch). Does the Janitor's ability affect any posts other than the day post immediately following the Janitor's PM? | ||
zelblade
Australia901 Posts
Sentinel claims to have followed the plan of picking up janitor, and claimed that he didnt get it. If his claim is believable that would mean that one of marv/risk is janitor. I personally trust sentinel's claim due to the fact that its dumb as fuck as scum - why even agree to the improvised town plan when it was proposed that he take janitor too? If I was him I would have just fake afked till the end of the pick phase and say "opps some shit happened sorry" and not be a part of this mess. Thus hes probably town or a really dumb mafia who can write a book on "how to get caught in a lie as scum 101". Since I feel sentinel is town, that leaves risk and marvellosity. Risk claims to have never followed the town plan. However, the primary thing is this - he himself agrees that janitor is a extremely powerful role in scum hands... in that case, why doesnt he, given the chance to, follow the town plan and save town a whole bunch of trouble worrying about possible hidden flips? This feels extremely off to me which is definately an area of suspision. Janitor is a dead role for scum in this particular game since it cannot be used without asking for death if the plan was followed. However, if town does not know where exactly the janitor is it becomes extremely powerful simply due to the threat it gives - just look at today. I believe he pulled off this gambit seeking to both deny positions 3 and 4 strong roles, whilst giving his teammates lower in the draft a higher chance to get good picks. Marvellosity too has decided to not follow the plan, and decided to pick another role whilst claiming to follow the plan. This move is stupid as hell if townie and extremely useful as scum. Scum doesnt want to get stuck with a useless VT, and marv's given excuse is pretty much one that both town and scum can use. Problem is, I generally feel stronger regarding my scum read on risk, which is why im going to vote for him. ##vote: risk.nuke Also role claims will help. I probably could help with verifying a couple of things since I know one of the roles in the positions 2 - 4 (aka I can "confirm" one of the roles taken) | ||
zelblade
Australia901 Posts
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