EPTI'd like marv and sentinel to comment on Sandroba's scenario.
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
I'd like marv and sentinel to comment on Sandroba's scenario. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
Another reason why we should focus exclusively on the three people is that those are the only flips that cannot be fucked with by a janitor that's out there. We _know_ that if someone out of those three gets janned, he was almost certainly town and we kill into the remaining two. a 2 for 1 trade is GOOD for us, so even if we're terrible and things go as badly as possible, we're still ahead, and Mattchew's shot gives us even more leeway. Risk's denial to claim is very bad, but having played with him before I know he's prone to dumb boneheaded opinions. He tends to put his own shit above the good of the team. However @risk and @marvel. One of you is town (at least), and that person should claim the role they took. The reason is really simple, we're down to 3 scum (and 1 sk). there are 10+ town roles in the game. Each one doesn't need to net us a scum kill. Your role is NOT WORTH the confusion of not knowing what you picked. Roles are actually very secondary to the intentions people have with them. I consider my pardoner role as a role completely pointless, but as I outlined above, I had a very clear intention with it. So, now is the time you both need to claim. It's strictly bad play from town perspective to refuse to claim. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On May 18 2012 20:30 Barundar wrote: Palmar if you use pardoner you are fucking town over and I will do what ever in my power to get you lynched. This is a MAJORITY lynch game, it's hard enough to get a majority of town to vote for the same target to even get a lynch off, the last thing we need is some retarded reason why 1 guy decides we shouldn't do it anyways, and we have to wifom into if he is doing it on town or scum basis. And Liar game is what a week old and you are already pulling the "I'm responsible for who I decide not to get killed" argument that you just used as mafia again. I'd like marv and sentinel to comment on Sandroba's scenario. As long as people aren't being stupid as shit you don't have to worry about it. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 18 2012 19:55 sandroba wrote: Okay I read the whole thing over to get the timing of the events and the less retarded explanation I can conjure is (drum roll) Marv is scum! If you look at how it happened and assume marv is mafia it makes *some* sense. Marv knew decon took cpr so he didn't have to confirm the role / waste a scum role on it. He also knew risk wasn't taking janitor and didn't expect people bellow him to try for it. So amongst the confusion of who gets the janitor role, it was the perfect opportunity to take it and get away with it. But then sentinel came in and busted him and it was too late. Marv did not expect sentinel to take it and got GG'ed. Didn't read thread lol! On May 17 2012 05:48 hiro protagonist wrote: [UoN]Sentinel, would you be cool with grabbing Janitor? On May 17 2012 05:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'll be cool with it, but I'd rather have risk cooperate lol. Risk please cooperate? Clearly risk was not co-operating. Also, if you're going to talk about me, spell my fucking name right, sandrodummybubbawoobieboobie (referring to another post). On May 18 2012 17:17 Barundar wrote: It bothers me a lot that this is not a discussion spearheaded by themself, you all three have better insight than the rest of us so you should know someone is lying and do something about it wtf. @toad if i had a list check of 3 people with 1 mafia on it I would 100% lynch into it. Standard logic tells me to confirm the vanilla claim first, so a tentative vote on sentinel for now. Risk.nuke came across as town with his in your face attitude earlier, since day post he seems to have taken it overboard though. Now to not skim read a million pages, sigh. ##vote sentinel Yes, the better insight I have is that I'm looking into 1 of 2, not 1 of 3. Put yourselves in my shoes where you know I'm telling the truth. What more insight do I have than you or anyone? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
this confusion comes from the lack of claiming. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 18 2012 20:32 Palmar wrote: Roles are actually very secondary to the intentions people have with them. I consider my pardoner role as a role completely pointless, but as I outlined above, I had a very clear intention with it. My role is not so great if it's revealed now compared to later. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
If none of those 3 come in here and explain the situation (aka who is the liar) prior to the lynch we at least have the chance to actually hit mafia because that way one is really bound to be mafia. And since it's too late to talk about this now because everyone's like "LYYYYNCH THAT" even if one of them is town noone will talk about it. I'll be the one yelling "told ya" if he flips town, just so you know :p Going to ignore the issue for now until the flip, not going to talk about it anymore. I tried everything I can and it failed :/ ##vote sent | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
Firstly, as others, Sentinel at the start of the game happily goes and 'yadayadayada CPR is very dangerous alright?' Next, what IS suspicious is that after the setup discussion, is he literally has not scum hunted at all. His vote is on risk after a horrible reason (which is 'why haven't you voted risk yet?'), he sheeps after no mention of risk.nuke at all. On May 18 2012 10:21 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Sorry for lateness. I was leaning risk but I wanted to make sure it was him and not marv. Since I'm vanilla and it seems like the possibility more and more as time goes on, risk it is. ##Vote: risk.nuke He doesn't explain why he was leaning on risk as the 'scum'. Also, he takes every chance to inflate his filter with useless post's such as this one. On May 16 2012 10:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: [9, 1] here. Well, this case is short but is's kinda a summary why I'm leaning on Sentinel, so I end this with a ##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 18 2012 21:27 Toadesstern wrote: Whatever. I had for the last 4 games as town in a row a 50-60% mafia hitting average on d1 reads. That's on average when talking about 3, 4 or 5 reads so that involves the lesser reads which means that if I'm town the good reads are usually way better than 60% of hitting mafia, but sure let's go for the 1/3 chance instead. If none of those 3 come in here and explain the situation (aka who is the liar) prior to the lynch we at least have the chance to actually hit mafia because that way one is really bound to be mafia. And since it's too late to talk about this now because everyone's like "LYYYYNCH THAT" even if one of them is town noone will talk about it. I'll be the one yelling "told ya" if he flips town, just so you know :p Going to ignore the issue for now until the flip, not going to talk about it anymore. I tried everything I can and it failed :/ ##vote sent To the bold: again, how the hell would me knowing I'm telling the truth help me work out which of the other 2 is lying?? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On May 18 2012 21:25 marvellosity wrote: My role is not so great if it's revealed now compared to later. Your role is not worth us mislynching today. Whatever I'm talking to stubborn assholes. @Everyone else: you should be voting either risk or marvelausity, because they haven't claimed their picks. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On May 18 2012 21:39 Palmar wrote: Your role is not worth us mislynching today. Whatever I'm talking to stubborn assholes. @Everyone else: you should be voting either risk or marvelausity, because they haven't claimed their picks. Hilarious coming from you | ||
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