Newbie Mini Mafia XIII

On May 10 2012 08:36 FirmTofu wrote:
I'm all for lynching a lurker, but we should definitely wait a bit for everyone to have a chance to post.

I hope you aren't mafia again

On May 10 2012 15:01 Jailbreaker wrote:
Hello everyone!

I agree to pressure the lurkers, but its only the first few hours of the game.
What are everyone's thoughts on the aggressiveness so far?
Note: BroodKingEXE, dahdum , Darkfirex5 , Unforgiven_ve, ShiaoPi already having "suspicions"

On May 10 2012 13:48 BroodKingEXE wrote:


What are you implying here? We should wait for everyone to post before coming to conclusions? That seems scummy to me, we should be analyzing peoples posts right now. You just created a reason for you not to post. Convince your not scum.

On May 10 2012 16:12 BioSC wrote:



While I agree that the back half of his post is worthy of discussion, I would hope that simply saying that him hoping you aren't mafia is worthy of a lynch. Maybe it's just me, but that simply sounds as if he remembers you from a previous game, and perhaps you did well as mafia then. I feel like the mafia/town alignment of a previous game shouldn't be a factor in deciding whom to lynch in THIS game.

Posting style, however, can and most likely should be used. A lot of people are shooting off votes 4ish hours into the day, and while it's majority vote at the end of the day, I think there are better ways of getting people to speak up without throwing around votes on a whim. Let's see what Firm has to say.

On May 11 2012 05:56 Jailbreaker wrote:
:D
dahdum, why are you searching for a bandwagon and state your reasons as "because." Can you give a little more insight plz?

On May 11 2012 10:16 Mufaa wrote:


Makes sense, but FYI you didn't actually vote for unforgiven. Instead of unvote you did unvite so I don't think your change will be counted. I figured after getting called out for editing you'd pay closer attention to your posts. For claiming to be pro-town these things(edit & failed voting) do nothing but benefit the mafia through ambiguity if you really are town. So why should we believe you're town if you can't take the extra 30 secs to proof your posts? Why shouldn't we assume the failed vote was you attempting to hide your focus on Tofu while ensuring that when you got called out you had a fallback ready by just saying oops?

On May 11 2012 12:02 Anacletus wrote:


Entirely subjective and of course you'd rush to create it so you could not be counted in it.

Personally, I think that this is a bit suspicious.

I'd just like for everyone to take a quick gander at his reasoning behind low suspicions of "agrees with me on lynches" and just how odd that is. When we start weening down the list - assuming the cop searches and finds me innocent - keep that in mind as you check everyone bandwagoning me.

On May 11 2012 12:05 Darkfirex5 wrote:
at dahdum, i never said i was voting against Unforgiven, where did you see that? A quote pls, cause i dont see a post from me attacking unforgiven... dont want to say your lying but, where is your misinterpretation?

This list is also just fluff, great you show us your views on who you think it is scummy, but after reading it, no further attention goes towards it.

--> probably the most questionable thing is that you put Hyaach right under Analectus. Hyaach started the bandwagon on Analectus, so now your saying if you think that the most likely mafia player Anacletus, and the person who goes after him first is Hyaach.
Additionally now you seem to have summarized basically what is happening in this game, maybe some analysis would be more helpful.
Additionally quoting, how you are coming to these fluff conclusions of people would be great, so then we could relate to these points that you are making.
In the end i just reread what has been happening and your thoughts on this thread
FOS: dahdum

Sounds like a solid strategy. Basic, but solid. Getting rid of lurkers/low content players seems like a win/win. If they are lurking scum players, town gets a nice snipe. Should they be town, they would be just as bad as scum in that they wouldn't help town anyways.

While I agree that the back half of his post is worthy of discussion, I would hope that simply saying that him hoping you aren't mafia is worthy of a lynch. Maybe it's just me, but that simply sounds as if he remembers you from a previous game, and perhaps you did well as mafia then. I feel like the mafia/town alignment of a previous game shouldn't be a factor in deciding whom to lynch in THIS game.

Read what I posted again. I threw my suspicions towards him as well. Not sure what about my post was defending him.

Not enough to drive my vote to you, but I'm sure to keep an eye on your posts.

On May 11 2012 13:18 Hyaach wrote:
My best pressure is my vote. i believe i started the wagon, so why am i listed as a bandwagon?. bandwagon if anything are dahdum who has join the vote on whomever is being pressured at the very moment. as for me voting without reason i believe any townie who saw the first post after my list would be decent enough to figure out why

On May 11 2012 14:37 BioSC wrote:Dahdum, I think your heart is in the right place, but focusing on a "short list" of the most scummy players would allow us to focus on finding, like Tofu said, a single guilty party.

On May 12 2012 10:00 ShiaoPi wrote:
I am unsure what to make of it right now. He seemed to have suspected BKE for a while which could explain his vote on him after austin made his case. Especially since nobody seemed to be inclined to follow up his pressure on BioSC. The only slightly suspicious thing I can make out is in his post just before his vote he says the following:



First he says that he backs off from anacletus, although he only jumped on that bandwagon without much explanation and did not follow it up with pressure besides his vote. It would have made more sense to say "I am backing off from BioSC for now" as he was focused on him. But it can also be argued that it was just a wording issue as his vote was indeed still on anacletus. His reasoning on switching onto BKE is basically sheeping austinmcc's arguments without adding anything else to it. He also does not post again before the lynch. If we take his comment on BKE from his list into consideration it seems a lot less scummy than it might otherwise, so for now just slightly fishy play due to lack of discussion and trying really hard to start a case on BioSC without actually starting one.

On May 15 2012 04:21 austinmcc wrote:
dahdum and BioSC, before today you guys were calling each other out and suspicious of each other. Do you each still believe the other scummy? Why/why not?

On May 15 2012 08:08 austinmcc wrote:
What the actual f*** town?

There are 3 remaining mafia. You realize that means that all 3 of them could have logged on FORTY EIGHT HOURS AGO, voted for one person with zero explanation, nothing at all, and then never logged on again during D2. That person would have been lynched. With 10 bodies in this game, we already let mafia control a lynch if they wanted to. That's absolutely ridiculous.

If you don't have time for this, I'm asking you to replace out or ask to be modkilled. If you're mafia and lurking, great job there. If you're town and lurking, you are actively hurting town and ruining this game for the rest of town. If you don't have time to read, don't kill this game, because you can't be enjoying this.

Sorry dark.

On May 15 2012 09:18 FirmTofu wrote:
I'm not mafia, so Anacletus is wrong in at least part of his guess.

On May 15 2012 08:49 BioSC wrote:


Calm down. There were obviously enough people who thought your case wasn't strong enough to vote for me.

What is more concerning is the fact that there have been lurkers now for 2 voting cycles straight.