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On May 07 2012 13:14 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 13:10 gonzaw wrote:Guess I'm in the majority again. About Sheth:What wbg says makes sense. You could have lied about telling people you PMed more than 1 person, and so you forged a PM with your scumbuddy. Even if you hadn't lied, you could have forged the PMs before saying it and planning it too to gain town cred if BC flipped. The way I see it your PM doesn't make sense in the context of the game: - If you didn't think BC was town:
Why would you PM him about your bluff then? That wouldn't make sense, you would PM your town reads about it
- If you thought BC was town:
Then why didn't you PM him more? You are telling me that you PMed a town read of yours ONLY ONCE, and only did that to explain your "bluff"? It would make sense that if you thought BC was town you would have PMed him more and not just have a lousy PM that doesn't even talk about the game at all
Either way, even if this is false, then you are still mafia from the other team, so it's irrelevant. What's relevant is the fact that you haven't defended yourself against any accusations. I've called you out on not giving a single read or contributing at all, and when you DID it was wishy-washy as hell and just wrong, like you didn't even cared about making those reads. Yet here you are still doing nothing and just defending yourself, and you don't even care about scumhunting nor about the game We should kill Sheth today. He didn't reply back to me. "Either way, even if this is false, then you are still mafia from the other team, so it's irrelevant." That quote is pretty bad. As for you calling me out, you've just asked stupid questions repeatedly. If you think thats calling me out then you're just crazy. How can someone both do nothing and defend oneself? As for scumhunting I'm look at ET and I've already said you look pretty bad forever ago I just haven't made a huge case on it.
I don't really care about your PM with BC, that's the point, it could be legit or not (although I'm inclined to think it's not).
What I do care about is your behaviour and your play this game.
How can someone both do nothing and defend oneself?
Why are you avoiding the issue and just argue semantics?
Here, I'll rephrase:
"Yet here you are still doing nothing other than just defending yourself...".
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On May 07 2012 13:20 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 13:14 Liquid`Sheth wrote:On May 07 2012 13:10 gonzaw wrote:Guess I'm in the majority again. About Sheth:What wbg says makes sense. You could have lied about telling people you PMed more than 1 person, and so you forged a PM with your scumbuddy. Even if you hadn't lied, you could have forged the PMs before saying it and planning it too to gain town cred if BC flipped. The way I see it your PM doesn't make sense in the context of the game: - If you didn't think BC was town:
Why would you PM him about your bluff then? That wouldn't make sense, you would PM your town reads about it
- If you thought BC was town:
Then why didn't you PM him more? You are telling me that you PMed a town read of yours ONLY ONCE, and only did that to explain your "bluff"? It would make sense that if you thought BC was town you would have PMed him more and not just have a lousy PM that doesn't even talk about the game at all
Either way, even if this is false, then you are still mafia from the other team, so it's irrelevant. What's relevant is the fact that you haven't defended yourself against any accusations. I've called you out on not giving a single read or contributing at all, and when you DID it was wishy-washy as hell and just wrong, like you didn't even cared about making those reads. Yet here you are still doing nothing and just defending yourself, and you don't even care about scumhunting nor about the game We should kill Sheth today. He didn't reply back to me. "Either way, even if this is false, then you are still mafia from the other team, so it's irrelevant." That quote is pretty bad. As for you calling me out, you've just asked stupid questions repeatedly. If you think thats calling me out then you're just crazy. How can someone both do nothing and defend oneself? As for scumhunting I'm look at ET and I've already said you look pretty bad forever ago I just haven't made a huge case on it. I don't really care about your PM with BC, that's the point, it could be legit or not (although I'm inclined to think it's not). What I do care about is your behaviour and your play this game. Why are you avoiding the issue and just argue semantics? Here, I'll rephrase: "Yet here you are still doing nothing other than just defending yourself...".
I'm just going to point out your question is still dumb.
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Ehmm, asking you why you are not contributing or why you don't have any meaningful reads is not "dumb".
Whatever I'm not gonna argue with you, it's obvious you are just dodging the issue
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Why you people hatin on everyone that's not kissing the asses of our kings? 
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On May 07 2012 13:27 gonzaw wrote:
Whatever I'm not gonna argue with you, it's obvious you are just dodging the issue
Indeed, you'll just come back with 10 fluff posts asking the same questions over and over again a few minutes after.
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On May 07 2012 13:38 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 13:27 gonzaw wrote:
Whatever I'm not gonna argue with you, it's obvious you are just dodging the issue Indeed, you'll just come back with 10 fluff posts asking the same questions over and over again a few minutes after.
Hm I will say kill me first then look at cephiro in a new light if you guys want. Could be pretty productive. I'd rather live, but if I do die you'll at least realize all my reads are legitimate and to look at the right people.
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On May 07 2012 13:12 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 13:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 07 2012 12:55 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Why would I forge a PM to BC if I could have simply said I didn't PM him?
Just give me an answer to that please. because you said you PMed more than one person about the bluff, and Meapak was only one person. derp. Could have said Ace or Foolishness. derp back at ya.
Ace died n1 and you replied to me before day 3 post and even if you hadn't you couldn't know what he had told everyone else.
Not that we need to catch you at a lie to get you lynched as everything about your play screams mafia. If someone actually needs an explanation, we can provide one as otherwise I don't see the need.
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On May 07 2012 14:26 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 13:12 Liquid`Sheth wrote:On May 07 2012 13:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 07 2012 12:55 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Why would I forge a PM to BC if I could have simply said I didn't PM him?
Just give me an answer to that please. because you said you PMed more than one person about the bluff, and Meapak was only one person. derp. Could have said Ace or Foolishness. derp back at ya. Ace died n1 and you replied to me before day 3 post and even if you hadn't you couldn't know what he had told everyone else. Not that we need to catch you at a lie to get you lynched as everything about your play screams mafia. If someone actually needs an explanation, we can provide one as otherwise I don't see the need.
So back on the get me lynched train. Have fun.
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Also if cephiro/sheth is what remains of your team and it looks like sheth is going to get lynched by the end of the day, you shouldn't bother trying to save him as in that case the game is unwinnable for your team and you are at best just delaying the inevitable.
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On May 07 2012 13:12 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 13:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 07 2012 12:55 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Why would I forge a PM to BC if I could have simply said I didn't PM him?
Just give me an answer to that please. because you said you PMed more than one person about the bluff, and Meapak was only one person. derp. Could have said Ace or Foolishness. derp back at ya.
this pretty much proves you're lying, since Ace was dead at that point and Foolishness would've said something.
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On May 07 2012 14:38 syllogism wrote:
Also if cephiro/sheth is what remains of your team and it looks like sheth is going to get lynched by the end of the day, you shouldn't bother trying to save him as in that case the game is unwinnable for your team and you are at best just delaying the inevitable.
1) Game is not unwinnable for scum until all of them are killed.
2) If BC&Me&Sheth was a full mafia team, do you really think we would be stupid enough to vote for each other in narrow situations? I think everyone in this game should have the brains for not outing their whole scumteam unless it's some sort of endgame gamble which could end up winning them the game.
3) Explain me why it looks like Sheth is going to get lynched?
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On May 02 2012 03:01 Palmar wrote:
I'm fine with killing you today, and I have the influence to get it done.
Quoted for the hilarity, that influence of yours is incredible, trying to get me killed during D1, and you aren't even close of being able to do that at D3? :D
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Don't use the "do you really think we are stupid enough" defense unless you want me to answer that and present evidence as to why that may be the case.
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On May 07 2012 14:55 syllogism wrote:
Don't use the "do you really think we are stupid enough" defense unless you want me to answer that and present evidence as to why that may be the case.
Please do present evidence as to why that may be the case.
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On May 07 2012 14:56 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 14:55 syllogism wrote:
Don't use the "do you really think we are stupid enough" defense unless you want me to answer that and present evidence as to why that may be the case. Please do present evidence as to why that may be the case.
slide A:
Cephiro's filter
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On May 07 2012 14:59 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2012 14:56 Cephiro wrote:On May 07 2012 14:55 syllogism wrote:
Don't use the "do you really think we are stupid enough" defense unless you want me to answer that and present evidence as to why that may be the case. Please do present evidence as to why that may be the case. slide A: Cephiro's filter
Thank you for this awesome post. What a truly remarkable case you have made. This clearly proves everything that has been going on in the game, and explains every possible outcome too. I'm not even going to try to be serious with you.
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Yeah yeah sheth needs to die, we could prob take out mz along with him for good measure.
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I guess it's somewhat less likely for ceph to make that argument if they are team mates, just so he doesn't look silly after the game is over. Sandroba being on their team makes some sense, though I don't quite understand why mafia sheth would suicide like that if he isn't on the same team as ceph/bc.
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Cuz I'm town you single minded angry fool.
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Fine, who is mafia then? Your only real read whole game long has been gonzaw and you've defended at least one mafia, likely two. You said that, if you die and flip town, we should look at your reads knowing that they are legitimate. The problem is you don't have any useful reads, haven't made any cases at all and we already know you have been wrong about several things.
If you are town, spend the day making real cases. You could start by explaining why, after "thinking about it all day", you think Cephiro is town. I'm more interested in your mafia reads, however.
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