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Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 07 2012 18:08 GMT
#481
Gosh, why am I such a tryhard in a game when the townies consist of a troll, a proud and upstanding (but stubborn) hunk of a man, and a bunch of inactives.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
AcesRequiem
Profile Joined March 2012
Belgium26 Posts
May 07 2012 18:14 GMT
#482
All of you could be scum, seriously.

Paschl mainly because he voted for Claw when you switched your vote, Gummy. Even though you were strongly convinced Gummy was the enemy and Claw was innocent, you still voted for his lynch. I can understand this from one point, but it looks very scummy from another.

FirmTofu and Gummy you two are seriously both so confusing, however, you both bring up some fine arguments. Will look into this deeper in a moment. Gummy, why are you so sure Ange777 is maffia? Stop throwing around random accusations and please explain. I'm suspecting him aswell.

But why would we not go for a save lynch and lynch the lurker, being dahdum? We should've done this on day one for christ sake.

##Vote: dahdum

Pessimism of the intellect, Optimism of the will
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 07 2012 18:16 GMT
#483
to put it simply, I don't have enough information about dahdum to say anything regarding that. See previous post with red text for my accusation of ange.

The key reason why I'm trying to vote tofu is that a mislynch today is an autoloss.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
AcesRequiem
Profile Joined March 2012
Belgium26 Posts
May 07 2012 18:17 GMT
#484
I'd rather vote for Ange than Tofu then.
Pessimism of the intellect, Optimism of the will
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 07 2012 18:20 GMT
#485
Look here's my take on it:

Let's assume for a moment that Tofu is detective and Ange is a VT voting either of them off would result in a loss for the town.

That said, we should be voting ENTIRELY based on whoever is MOST LIKELY to be mafia with no other consideration for what roles might be. Tofu has been lying about being detective (which can't help the townspeople) so he must be scum.

While I'm reasonably confident that Ange is scum, I'd rather not take the risk of reduced certainty for no benefit.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 07 2012 18:21 GMT
#486
Edit:
On May 08 2012 03:20 Gummy wrote:
Look here's my take on it:

Let's assume for a moment that Tofu is detective and Ange is a VT voting either of them off would result in a loss for the town.

That said, we should be voting ENTIRELY based on whoever is MOST LIKELY to be mafia with no other consideration for what other roles they might be. Tofu has been lying about being detective (which can't help the townspeople) so he must be scum.

While I'm reasonably confident that Ange is scum, I'd rather not take the risk of reduced certainty for no benefit.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 07 2012 18:42 GMT
#487
Dont let the mafia fool you.
Gummy should be lynched today.
Theyre obviously gonna try to sway us today but were not gonna fall for it.
Why would you even suspect Firm? He peeked Matriarch and Matriarch got killed.
Thats no random event. The only way this can really happen is if the mafia thinks Firm is the cop and doesnt know who the medic is.

Also notice how Gummy suspect me earlier today, then makes a 180 to get me off him.

And Aces, its not like i wanted to lynch dahdum day1. Oh wait, i did.
But Gummy himself made the best point why we should lynch him. We should be voting ENTIRELY based on whoever is MOST LIKELY to be mafia.
Thats Gummy.
dahdum
Profile Joined May 2010
United States46 Posts
May 07 2012 19:13 GMT
#488
As of now, I don't have any reason to suspect Tofu is lying. He outed himself after a double medic claim, assuming he would be protected (safe assumption) and has been forthright in his checks. I didn't like the Matriarch check but the check on Gummy is logical to me. There is only a chance of a framer + a chance they frame Gummy, and mafia/town alike will use that same defense, so playing the odds sounds right to me.

##Vote: Gummy
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 07 2012 20:34 GMT
#489
On May 08 2012 04:13 dahdum wrote:
As of now, I don't have any reason to suspect Tofu is lying. He outed himself after a double medic claim, assuming he would be protected (safe assumption) and has been forthright in his checks. I didn't like the Matriarch check but the check on Gummy is logical to me. There is only a chance of a framer + a chance they frame Gummy, and mafia/town alike will use that same defense, so playing the odds sounds right to me.

##Vote: Gummy

That's not correct. He outed himself after a single medic claim. I only questioned Claw's medic claim afterwards.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 07 2012 20:43 GMT
#490
His outing was extremely suspect as demorcef, myself, and a number of others pointed out. Also, it seems like none of the townies really care about the outcome of this game and are voting on false beliefs or based simply on who they like.

I think my best bet, given how strong a case I've made for myself, is just to be quiet and let you guys think it over.

If you really want to win, the choice is obvious. Vote for tofu. If not, then by all means vote me off and get a big fat "I told you so" when the game ends during the night cycle.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 07 2012 21:00 GMT
#491
On May 08 2012 05:43 Gummy wrote:
His outing was extremely suspect as demorcef, myself, and a number of others pointed out. Also, it seems like none of the townies really care about the outcome of this game and are voting on false beliefs or based simply on who they like.

I think my best bet, given how strong a case I've made for myself, is just to be quiet and let you guys think it over.

If you really want to win, the choice is obvious. Vote for tofu. If not, then by all means vote me off and get a big fat "I told you so" when the game ends during the night cycle.


*cough*antispew*cough*
Given all that you posted itt you now want to lynch the guy who claimed seer while there hasnt been a counterclaim and his peek has been killed tonight?
It makes no sense.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 07 2012 21:05 GMT
#492
FWIW, at this point second mafia is dahdum rather than ange. I guess it's just poorly reasoned play all around.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 07 2012 21:06 GMT
#493
On May 08 2012 06:00 paschl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 05:43 Gummy wrote:
His outing was extremely suspect as demorcef, myself, and a number of others pointed out. Also, it seems like none of the townies really care about the outcome of this game and are voting on false beliefs or based simply on who they like.

I think my best bet, given how strong a case I've made for myself, is just to be quiet and let you guys think it over.

If you really want to win, the choice is obvious. Vote for tofu. If not, then by all means vote me off and get a big fat "I told you so" when the game ends during the night cycle.


*cough*antispew*cough*
Given all that you posted itt you now want to lynch the guy who claimed seer while there hasnt been a counterclaim and his peek has been killed tonight?
It makes no sense.

There is no detective. That's why there's no counterclaim...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 07 2012 21:06 GMT
#494
On May 08 2012 06:06 Gummy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 06:00 paschl wrote:
On May 08 2012 05:43 Gummy wrote:
His outing was extremely suspect as demorcef, myself, and a number of others pointed out. Also, it seems like none of the townies really care about the outcome of this game and are voting on false beliefs or based simply on who they like.

I think my best bet, given how strong a case I've made for myself, is just to be quiet and let you guys think it over.

If you really want to win, the choice is obvious. Vote for tofu. If not, then by all means vote me off and get a big fat "I told you so" when the game ends during the night cycle.


*cough*antispew*cough*
Given all that you posted itt you now want to lynch the guy who claimed seer while there hasnt been a counterclaim and his peek has been killed tonight?
It makes no sense.

There is no detective. That's why there's no counterclaim...

That or the detective is one of the inactives.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 07 2012 21:07 GMT
#495
On May 08 2012 06:06 Gummy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 06:00 paschl wrote:
On May 08 2012 05:43 Gummy wrote:
His outing was extremely suspect as demorcef, myself, and a number of others pointed out. Also, it seems like none of the townies really care about the outcome of this game and are voting on false beliefs or based simply on who they like.

I think my best bet, given how strong a case I've made for myself, is just to be quiet and let you guys think it over.

If you really want to win, the choice is obvious. Vote for tofu. If not, then by all means vote me off and get a big fat "I told you so" when the game ends during the night cycle.


*cough*antispew*cough*
Given all that you posted itt you now want to lynch the guy who claimed seer while there hasnt been a counterclaim and his peek has been killed tonight?
It makes no sense.

There is no detective. That's why there's no counterclaim...


So on day1 after a medic claims the mafia decides to claim itt with the most common town role and expects to get lucky?
Doesnt sond right.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 07 2012 21:24 GMT
#496
Be more precise with your language. Are you talking about me or about tofu. Look at how the random generator works. I posted it on the previous page.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 07 2012 21:26 GMT
#497
And why does dahdum even sign up for this thread. Presuming he's a townie he posts once a day without reading anything except the last few posts and then votes based on a reasoning, which is an incorrect recollection of the events that took place.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 07 2012 21:31 GMT
#498
On May 08 2012 06:24 Gummy wrote:
Be more precise with your language. Are you talking about me or about tofu. Look at how the random generator works. I posted it on the previous page.


Is this another mafia claim?
I was talking about Tofu.

And how do you even know a generator like this was used? I could just aswell see him having 5-7 finished setups and rolling a dice instead of the method wikipedia uses.
FirmTofu
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1956 Posts
May 07 2012 21:36 GMT
#499
Aces is the last mafia and Gummy is already dead by now.

Votes on Gummy(Need 4 to lynch):
paschl
FirmTofu
Ange777
dahdum

GG.

I didn't even read his counter-arguments because they are all Gummy flailing at town hoping to appeal to emotion.

For the record, Claw's fallacies were quite on target this game. It's a shame you all killed him instead of Gummy.
I lie a lot when I'm town. I never lie when I'm scum.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
May 07 2012 21:42 GMT
#500
On May 08 2012 06:36 FirmTofu wrote:
Aces is the last mafia and Gummy is already dead by now.

Votes on Gummy(Need 4 to lynch):
paschl
FirmTofu
Ange777
dahdum

GG.

I didn't even read his counter-arguments because they are all Gummy flailing at town hoping to appeal to emotion.

For the record, Claw's fallacies were quite on target this game. It's a shame you all killed him instead of Gummy.

There was not a single appeal to emotion in any of my rebuttals. The only appeal to emotion was my poem for Paschl.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
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